Re: [Asterisk-biz] DIDX.org emails

2005-11-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
it. Mkaynow is there anybody out there that really cares about anything you just said? Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] DIDX.org emails

2005-11-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
such matters anymore. So now you are speculating on my state of mind? Looks like its time to black hole another ip address Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] DIDX.org emails

2005-11-17 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Hermann Wecke wrote: Don't threaten if you don't want to persue the case. Will look like a fool - or a kid. Sometimes all it takes is the threat, but yes you should be ready to take action if you threaten. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Looking for ways to avoid carrier blocking

2005-11-12 Thread Jeremy McNamara
/randomly change the port it uses. As for sRTP I do sorta remember hearing something about it. Go search the mailing list archives. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Blank emails from DIDx

2005-11-12 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Mark wrote: Am I the only one receiving blank emails from DIDx every hour? Yes, but I blocked their mail server IP - the whole range is about to come next - Funny thing is I never signed up for didx. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Can anyone recommend a good billing software to interface with Asterisk?

2005-11-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
up wishing you did it right from the beginning. Trust me or not, its your money. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Can anyone recommend a good billing software to interface with Asterisk?

2005-11-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
. A canned solution is going to force you to conform to a different mindset which in my experience will come back to haunt you someday. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
to your asterisk setup. Do you expect me to sit here pressing the redial button and listening to that message all day? Ah, I see you are using NuFone. Why bullshit people with a voicemail box that may or may not get their calls returned? Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
hours. If you want us to hold your hand get a support contract, then you will have multiple dedicated contact points. However, most support issues are most effectively dealt with via email, so the issue at hand can be detailed. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Paul wrote: Jeremy, why not put a sig on your posts so the newcomers to the list can clearly see how nufone.net feels about their customers? Contrary to popular belief not all of our customers subscribe to Asterisk mailing lists or even run Asterisk themselves. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
such a system because he knows it usually works better than playing telephone tag. That is constructive criticism. Who says a trouble ticketing system has to be an external, customer facing solution? Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Steve Totaro wrote: Nufone owes me $40 Then take it up with nufone billing, not Asterisk-biz. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
are the legitimate account holder and you will get your money. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
text configuration file containing a username and secret. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
are that demanding. If it were one or two complaints here and there, that one thing. It is a steady flow of complaints on this list. Anyone with a clue might start thinking, HMMM maybe its not the customer, maybe it is me? Rome wasn't built in a day. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
? Now, that's funny - The bank just gave me a $75,000 construction loan on my signature and NuFone has no need for business credit. Obviously whatever illegal methods you used to allegedly acquire my personal credit report is false. Now you are just slandering me. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
by you is in order. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
. Given our current production (crap) website, we are doing quite well. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] some things that really suck in customer support

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
personal information out of about fifteen that slam your service. You are now spreading information with blatant disregard for the truth.My legal representation will be getting informed of this activity first thing in the morning. Jeremy McNamara

[Fwd: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Nufone Support?]

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Steve, as you can see in the attached message I refunded your paypal payment. You are crazy if you think I would send money to another paypal account. NuFone does not owe you $40, PayPal does. Jeremy McNamara ---BeginMessage--- I am by no means new to asterisk and configs. I just

[Asterisk-biz] [Fwd: Re: [nufone.net #5047] configs]

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Steve, further documentation, for the record, that we refunded the payment you made to us. Shall I send you the paypal screen capture next? Jeremy McNamara ---BeginMessage--- Steve Totaro via RT wrote: Of course it did. I no longer own that domain. I refunded your money

Re: [Asterisk-biz] [Fwd: Re: [nufone.net #5047] configs]

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: legally speaking hearsay is repeating what you heard, not claiming you did an overt action. This is not hearsay, regardless of whether its correct or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay says differently. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Looking for 415 212 DIDs

2005-11-02 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Mark wrote: Careful with those DIDX DIDs, if the seller drops out of DIDx you lose your DIDs! Plus, what Rehan doesn't bother to inform you is, he owns DIDx - So much for full discloure. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Wanted: Consulting Integration - Oct 26 - 28

2005-10-24 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Steven Sokol wrote: Must be professional, courteous, customer-focused and a top-notch problem solver. Damn that counts me out. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Asterisk-biz] VoipJet.com Announces New Rates, Hawaii Direct at 1.3 cents and UK Mobile with Roaming

2005-10-17 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Paul wrote: John must have a good spy network in order to monitor all the other IAX providers volume. :-) Too bad his name isn't really 'John' Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Loyalties are to Mark and Digium all the way. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Peter Nixon wrote: As for inflammatory posts about OpenPBX, it should be clearly understood that Jeremy McNamara has no affiliation with the OpenPBX project and anything he posts about it should be taken with the mug full of salt that everything else he says should be taken with. You

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
could not fund the effort. After all how much financial backing does this fork really have? Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
. Then don't do business with us. I really don't care, really. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk Ffork

2005-10-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
over on slashdot not that long ago. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all parts to OpenPBX were disclaimed and available to Digium, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. Their only real reason for forking is because Digium will not or could not accept their contributions. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
smbPBX wrote: Any thought from the business comminity? Its a serious waste of resources. It will fail. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
smbPBX wrote: Any thought from the business comminity? Furthermore, I better not see any H.323, G.729 or OpenSSL support in this forked version or I will make it personal and sick the legal types after whomever is responsible. Have a nice day, Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Danny Froberg wrote: Why? Those, and possibly other features, can only exist because of the dual licensing nature of Asterisk. Jeremy McNamara Furthermore, I better not see any H.323, G.729 or OpenSSL support in this forked version or I will make it personal and sick the legal

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
William Waites wrote: And if you insist on playing the use IP as a big stick game, you had better make damn sure that Asterisk is non-infringing in any way of anybody elses claims... If you have any substance to this claim, bring it. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
, OpenSSL and G.729 are not compatible with the GPL. It has nothing to with who owns what. Perhaps you need to have Rosenblatt and company READ the GPL to you. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
the right to grant such exceptions. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
the copyright holder can. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org

2005-10-08 Thread Jeremy McNamara
It very clearly states in the README in the Asterisk source TLD: Specific permission is also granted to OpenSSL and OpenH323 to link with Asterisk. LINK WITH ASTERISK - A fork is not asterisk. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Looking For Asterisk Consultants

2005-09-28 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Peter Ericksen wrote: Where (geographically) will the work be performed? Does geography even matter?95% of the Asterisk Consulting I do is via SSH and a Screen session. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Looking for a configuration software

2005-09-28 Thread Jeremy McNamara
what AMP configures. What is the remedy for this? Do you have plans to sync-up config files to the DB also? If the lame developers of AMP would find a clue, this would not be a problem. There is a wonderful feature called #include - read about it. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Billing solution for Asterisk

2005-09-23 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Operations Jabeens wrote: I have seen Mera, Sysmaster etc which are yet to support asterisk but looking for somewthing comparable with features and functionalities comparable with these. Sysmaster's PBX solution IS ASTERISK. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Linksys PAP2 behind NAT

2005-09-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Billy Huddleston wrote: You need to use a STUN server.. No you don't. This belongs on the -user list. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Need help Varion Card

2005-09-01 Thread Jeremy McNamara
wanted to waste other peoples time. He is just upset that I voice my opinion not to purchase his hardware. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Need help Varion Card

2005-08-31 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Dome Charoenyost wrote: Hi all, can someone give me varion card V400P manual. i try to setup with ISDN PRI. but don't work. Your vendor doesn't support what they sold you? Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Teliax not available..

2005-08-29 Thread Jeremy McNamara
a line and I will be more than happy to help you out. Perhaps you need to pay attention to this (and your normal email accounts) mailing list. Someone else was just complaining about your operation. Next someone will complain about what I do... sucks - Deal with it. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] NuFone

2005-08-29 Thread Jeremy McNamara
have established this account, you will be given basic configuration details to send us calls, then if you happen to want our limited offering of DIDs, you can do that via Let Me In. Another option would be patient for our new site to launch, which will hold your hand a bit more. Jeremy

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Working with a no name provider

2005-08-25 Thread Jeremy McNamara
. Fortunately websites can be fixed and projects can turn into full fledged carrier-class operations with a serious amount of motivation, the right business partners and a proper cash flow. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Voip and Broadband billing software?

2005-08-23 Thread Jeremy McNamara
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know of some good packages for doing this without us having to roll our own? Write your own - This way you can build the whole solution around your requirements instead of changing your requirements to fit some canned solution. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] VOIP reseller looking for a provider

2005-08-20 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Matt Riddell wrote: You might want to check your website out using firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ I think they better worry about getting a CD order first. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Can some one help me about varion ?

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Dome Charoenyost wrote: I plan to order 4E1 card from varion. can someone comment ? Don't bother.. Get a TE411P from Digium, you will be much happier in the long run. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Cisco.com password protection

2005-08-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
details with a new random password will be e-mailed to you. d'oh, there goes my access to free firmware. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] NuFone BLIND rates?

2005-08-01 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Several emails (many of them they claim they did not receive), but so far still no rates for the calls. I personally responded to your message 10 minutes before you sent this message. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] NuFone BLIND rates?

2005-08-01 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Ronald_Wiplinger wrote: Yes you did with NO rates others than North America, so I will not be able to use it BLIND. Then say that - I respond to countless email every single day and it irritates me to no end when people say I do not respond to email. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] NuFone BLIND rates?

2005-08-01 Thread Jeremy McNamara
to add to the subject: NuFone BLIIND rates? than reply to the list, if not get a book about CUSTOMER SERVICE and read it carefully! I can't read, sorry. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http

Re: [Asterisk-biz] area code 204, DID's , canadian suppliers for ATA's, voip providers

2005-07-17 Thread Jeremy McNamara
www.IPKall.com Information wrote: www.Kall8.com does IAX2 Toll Free Termination. Do you even know what you are saying? Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk

Re: [Asterisk-biz] area code 204, DID's , canadian suppliers for ATA's, voip providers

2005-07-17 Thread Jeremy McNamara
. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] vonage number porting

2005-07-06 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Matt wrote: Yes anyone can do it... any voip provider should be able to do this no problem. Not just anyone. The VoIP provider has to have a relationship with and appropriate upstream carrier to port DIDs. Find a clue, then type. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] OEM DIGIUM Quad T1 Card Clone ?

2005-06-29 Thread Jeremy McNamara
using far superior T-1 Framer Chipset, which will dramatically lower the host CPU load to process calls. Now with the second generation of Digium's design starting to get up to speed, even less CPU is utilized. I would stick with Digium over Varion, any day. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud

2005-06-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Its not just CC Fraud: http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000183.html And no I am not posting this just because he mentions my company. Read in between the lines and you might begin to understand. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing

Re: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud

2005-06-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
of the massive amount of chargebacks we endured. Then to add insult to injury our processing 'partner' decided to withhold a SERIOUS amount of money for up to one year because they say they can, due to the high chargeback percentage on our account. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud

2005-06-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
pretty rare. Every single chargeback we processed passed with a valid CVV number. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud

2005-06-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
what I unilaterally deemed to be a friendly country, so most of the transactions that resulted in chargeback were US based issuing banks. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud

2005-06-18 Thread Jeremy McNamara
as once. Then we all need to hold this bank liable for all of the fraudulent transactions. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Voxee Error

2005-06-12 Thread Jeremy McNamara
this. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] DID for Mexico City

2005-06-01 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Kristian Kielhofner wrote: Isn't VoIP still illegal in Mexico? Not if the operator has paid off the appropriate officials. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Billy Huddleston wrote: What exactly is the deffinition of a Interconnected VoIP Provider? I believe this to be wording came from the Pulver ruling. An Interconnected VoIP Provider, in my minds means a provider that has/provides connectivity to the PSTN. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] 911 update

2005-05-13 Thread Jeremy McNamara
What is stopping the VoIP from creating their own global emergency service? There are surely enough of us out there to build a reasonable alternative to what the iLEC believes what an emergency service offering should look like. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Re: USA Termination

2005-04-25 Thread Jeremy McNamara
from others? Smells like a recipe for disaster to me. I am going to stick to dumping our traffic onto our known reliable TDM network. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman

Re: [Asterisk-Biz] SS7 available for Asterisk

2005-04-15 Thread Jeremy McNamara
://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] Earth to Nufone...Come in, Nufone!

2005-04-14 Thread Jeremy McNamara
... Hopefully things will settle quickly. What outages? Why don't you bother reporting this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] The last time we talked on IRC, I told you we were not experiencing any problems. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz

Re: [Asterisk-biz] http://www.asterisksupport.org

2005-03-31 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Rehan Ahmed AllahWala - Super Technologies I wrote: Help your self guys http://www.asterisksupport.org I smell a Cease and Desist on the horizon. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com