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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Ah, righto. I did put that in there then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/423554/#p423554 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback rules wrote:Attempting to scam any forum user out of their personal details (passwords of any kind, address, personal social media details, etc.))Seems pretty clear to me on the surface. Big picture is that someone apparently falsely accused

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I guess what made me think about this is, in the topic where this all came out, people were making a big deal about the personal attack as the rule violation being possibly stricken from existence by deleting the topic. In my opinion

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback For the record, I agree with you, and would come down very hard on any of this sort of info being leaked if it wasn't otherwise available. I thought that was implied. The list posted is not exhaustive, maybe it should be. URL: https

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Over the past few days I've been thinking about the situation where Mahdi-Abedi posted someone else's Skype ID. That topic had been deleted before I ever knew it existed, which opened up a totally different can of worms.In these rules (post 1

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I would say until there has been a unanimous push for described content across all streaming providers (ahem, Apple TV+). Spoiler alert, I actually almost forgot the name of the service, that's how unexcited I was about the Apple event. lol

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback This is also why you have seen me say on a couple of different occasions that if you're sent a link to something illegal, you should report it. Of course, if person 1 sends person 2 a link, and person 2 is totally okay with cracking or doing

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback As far as I've seen, there's no way for mods to see private messages that others send, after all they wouldn't be private.We are still trying to figure out the context of "illegal material". Put it this way, I don't see YouTube l

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback So, rereading the new rules, something came to mind.It states, sharing cracks or illegal material can be used to invoke the community failure clause. But nowhere does it actually state what illegal material actually is however. The other

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The official rules now in effect, if I'm not terribly mistaken, are to be found in post 1, which is edited as needed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/422697/#p422697 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback It's been edited as recently as this morning, but it's been edited silently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/422687/#p422687 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Which post has the most up to date rules? The first post doesn't seem to have been edited for a while. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/422671/#p422671 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback In light of recent events, I've updated rule 8 just a little, and have tweaked the Discipline Breakdown section. Please give it a read. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/422651/#p422651 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I have updated rule 3 to more clearly delineate what is and is not acceptable regarding the discussion of cracks. The reality is that it is hard to lay down an exact law on this, but I hope the clarification is better.And this is precisely

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I see both sides of this issue.On the one hand, yes, it would be good to see both things being validated, as it's an immediate clarification that yes, this is official.On the other hand? We are going to jump pretty squarely on anyone who

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I would like to propose that anyone who accepts a staff position of moderator or higher should have to accept that title so that it may be shown below their name, and must keep that title for as long as they remain a moderator or higher

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The forum does have to comply with the GDPR. A data controller is "the natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which, alone or jointly with others, determines the purposes and means of the processing of personal

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The forum does have to comply with the GDPR. A data controller is "the natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which, alone or jointly with others, determines the purposes and means of the processing of personal

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The forum does have to comply with the GDPR. A data controller is "the natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which, alone or jointly with others, determines the purposes and means of the processing of personal

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The forum does have to comply with the GDPR. A data controller is "the natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which, alone or jointly with others, determines the purposes and means of the processing of personal

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I mm in favour of letting people stop using the site and delete their account, if it means no actual posts are deleted in the process. Everyone should have the right to withdraw from a community.I am vigorously opposed to being able

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Well, I say feelings shouldn't enter into this. The thing is though, the forum is not a business, and while it is hosted in Europe as far as I know, it doesn't collect data, doesn't process data, etc. I don't consider using the search

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @TheGreatCarver to help with this, I have checked some of your posts. Some of them have helped when it comes to things like Eurofly, with hints and such given. There's a lot of Redspot in there. Some of it shows some interesting opinions

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I have the article in question, and here is the ext, for those interested:Art. 17 GDPR Right to erasure (‘right to be forgotten’)1. The data subject shall have the right to obtain from the controller the erasure of personal data concerning

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Lol that thing about the GDRP had me rolling. What the actual. How does that even apply to a forum that doesn't actually collect data, doesn't have any income, doesn't advertise and doesn't accept advertisements. Users are free to delete

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The repeating of numbers like thirty-seven (37) is a legal thing. I don't know exactly what it's called, but I assume the purpose is to insure there can be no misunderstanding due to misprinted or misread numbers, so the number is first

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @mahdi, it is spammy and unnessisary wen you can just ask in a new topic URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416908/#p416908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Might be a stupid question, but why do you repeat numbers? jade wrote:Each person is permitted one (1) account. Duplicate accounts will be deleted, and users guilty of creating duplicate accounts for any reason will beHope I did the code

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback hi6. Please do not revive very old topics without a good reason. If the last post in a thread is from a long time ago and the topic has clearly been quiet, please post elsewhere or create your own topic. Some threads go silent for awhile

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @157, vary good points.It should not be the job of the moderators to remove your mistakes, they were your mistakes, so fix them.Asking for your account to be deleted should be ok, because we are not capable of doing this without moderator

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Again, this is upheld when the user cannot or does not control said data. Users are expected to perform their due diligence where it comes to what they themselves can interact with, and as of yet, I have not seen any evidence that you

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The forum stores a user's data, therefore it collects the user's data. Again, under the GDPR, A user may request his data be deleted and in most cases, (not withstanding the freedom of speech or the need to uphold a legal obligation

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The forum stores a user's data, therefore it collects the user's data. Under the GDPR, A user may request his data be deleted and in most cases, (not withstanding the freedom of speech or the need to uphold a legal obligation), the data

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Sorry, but I don't believe your claims regarding, the right to be forgotten, to be valid in the slightest. I'm certainly not the most qualified to be siting these matters but I still must wholeheartedly disagree.Your posts make countless

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback This is true, except where a user can largely control their own data. This is why the guideline exists in its current form. If you can edit or delete your own data, then you are responsible for doing so. Only in cases where data is 1

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Jayde wrote:7. Should you wish to leave the community, you are free to stop using your account at any time. We also invite you to edit your posts in order to remove or correct things as you see fit. In the event that you desire to have your

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Just a quick update:I have added a new guideline regarding the termination of your account and the rights and responsibilities you have as regards the accuracy and presence of your data. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416841/#p416841

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Yeah I think what we have right now should suffice. There's no better way of knowing than pushing it out there. At any rate it's miles better than what we have now, and the longer we wait the longer we allow users to sign up agreeing

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Rules have been updated as of the making of this post. There isn't a lot changed, but in particular I added a guideline about thread necromancy because it was not covered specifically. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409243/#p409243

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I think you might want to consider basing our piracy rules around the discussion on this topic.http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394552/#p394552Either way they need some kind of clarification what ever you take from it, because this just keeps

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @147 I know, right? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/396790/#p396790 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback as I've said multiple times, tmstuff000 is just being an entitled little kid, and I just say ignore him until he does something stupid, again, and gets banned. Let's just ignore him and let him learn that the world doesn't revolve around

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback In the system I'm talking about, a lot of production won't have to be set up the way it is now, as 3d printing will mean that much production will be able to be done by individuals. Property is iffy, but I'm definitely a big fan of things

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback And besides, rolling out a system that major would be a disaster if done too quickly. Oh, one clarification I should ask. Are you advising a more social system (major social safety nets and programs of that sort, while property and production

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Ah. Yeah, that's definitely true. And even if you do strive for a more socialist society, I doubt it'll happen in our lifetimes. Change, especially with societies as large as Americas, never goes that fast. No, if it ever starts, it'll slowly

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @141, you raise very valid arguments. I don't really see your point of posting that though, since I can't really see how it validates, or invalidates, any arguments I, Mads, or tmstuff000 gave. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/395653

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @138Inflation. If money becomes an unlimited resource, it will lose all it’s value. Try this:If we say you can get 1000 dollars for the original charizard pokemon card, because it is so rare. If everyone had an original charizard pokemon card

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback We are getting way of topic. I've already said the reason why cracks should be allowed.Ok, maybe I went to far by saying selling software should be illegal... I was angry.But to answer your other question, the government claimes it controls

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @136, please state, for all of us curious on your reasoning, a logical, knowledgeable, and intelligent reason why:* cracking should not be a ban-able offense under the forum rules;* selling software should be illegal; and* bills are blackmail

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback No, I'm not. But we are way of topic so let's stop this. However, since you mentioned bills, I think bills are blackmail.RegardsT-m URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/395223/#p395223 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Your a child until your paying your own bills and looking for a job in my book. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/395068/#p395068 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @132, Actually, I'm a teen, not a child. And how do you know that?RegardsT-m URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394898/#p394898 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @128 I can understand that. I do believe the rule right now does state something about this being for legal as well as the philosophical purposes stated, but I wouldn't mind a bit more detail written down on the legal stuff if someone knows

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @jayde, just don’t waste your breath. Children will always be children, as seen in last post. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394787/#p394787 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback The only one cracks hurt are the developers. I think personally, it should be illegal to sell software, rather than illegal to crack it, if you get banned from as awesome sites as this forum, just for sharing them with the public.Best

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Remember, it's not just a legal issue. Audiogame developers are a part of this forum. Now, would a developer like cracks of his games publicly going around? Certainly not. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394702/#p394702

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @127, I agree with you that iit is important that the forum survives on and isn't taken down. However, why isn't that reason in the rules?You should then state something like it isn't only your fault that cracks aren't allowed

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Yep, the problem with Draconis is fixed. Dad bought Silver Dollar for me.However, stealing software is very different from stealing physical things. The owner still has it, and it isn't possible to damage it. And people like me are not making

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Unfortunately, cracking is stealing. Whether it's 30 dollars for an audiogame or a thousand dollars for a popular screen reader, it's still robbing the developer of a legally purchased copy. Wouldn't it be better to ask if someone can buy

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I probably don't need to say this, but I really don't agree with rule 3, the one about cracks.Many people like to crack and you should at least be allowed to post cracks in the off topic room.I've received 2 warnings because of this rule

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback You know what? You're absolutely right. That deserves to be a guideline. The sort of thing you may be advised of, but won't be punished for unless you're a long-time repeat offender with absolutely no regard for the other members of the forum

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I think I would agree with Aaron about making that a guideline, though, I wonder, would it be practical or even possible to introduce spoiler tag functionality so that spoiler/very windy information can be collapsed? URL: http

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I'd consider that more of a guideline than a rule though, although it's an interesting and quite important one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394176/#p394176 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I know this is a relatively old/inactive topic, but one thing I was surprised not to see is something about not posting game puzzle/plot/story spoilers without extremely clear warning that spoilers follow. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback well, I have read the updated set of rules and while probably they are not perfect, I have noted a balance, and that is good. I like the  examples instead of the analogies, but if someone speaks English as a second language (I was lucky

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback That'd be Firefox cutting off my post. I was going to quote the requirements to be certified for safe harbor...butthey're on that link. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/392503/#p392503 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback You know, this is the second time I've seen this happen. Did JaceK cut off the post, or did the forum do that...Again... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/392500/#p392500 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback For the legality of audio only movie tracks. They are still created and copyrighted by a rights holder. At least, acording to one attorney's interpretation of copyright law.Link with citations and sources: http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback You're right, of course. Rule 3 has tricky bits in it. I don't know if the audio only track of a movie would be illegal or not, honestly. I should go and find that out. If it turns out that it's technicaly illegal though, that'll close

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Rule 3 in its current form will probably lead to lots of arguments as to what is considered illegal. E.G., some people thinking that the movie vault movies are illegal, and others don't. So maybe just restrict it to audiogame cracks to avoid

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Example A: Direct personal attack, would receive a caution or a warningExample B: same as aboveExample C: This isn't attacking a forum user, and would only be issued a caution or warning if the post was really, really ugly; in its current

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Apologies for the promotion on this, but I did open a topic which discusses this sort of thing. It's a longer read, but I wanted to get my thoughts and feelings down.http://forum.audiogames.net/topic/26456 … oderators/ URL: http

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback It's always been that way, even from the start. It was never intended to be usable by one person with no checks. The checks are far more clearly stated now, however. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/391752/#p391752 -- Audiogames

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Majority of staff, yes. I'd be okay with that. And I have no truly strong feeling on whether or not an admin should be involved, but I can see your point, Ethin. I think any staff should be able to bring it to the table, but if at least one

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I've been saying all along that it should require a majority vote, or as Ethin put it. a quorum. I thought quorum was meat substitute for vegans? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/391739/#p391739 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback @101, yes. If you seriously are determined that a rule like this should exist, then we need as many checks in place as possible. If all the checks fail, then the rule isn't invoked; but if they all pass, they rule is invoked. (Or do I have

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Why can't we change the community clause invocation requirements to require a quorum? and to also require approval by at least one admin? That seems like the most foolproof logical step right now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/391724

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Aaron. First you say.aaron wrote:Hi Jayde,I am wondering if putting the platformer analogy might help. I also can't think of any more game analogies to help with other rules though.Then you say.aaron wrote:Agreed, it was just an example

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Agreed, it was just an example. It wouldn't be a good idea to implement game analogies for everything. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/391714/#p391714 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Jade is correct that most sites are far more strict in the language department; however, the comparison doesn't really work. Take the following source, from a document similar to the rules, called a 'Terms of Service'/'Terms of use':(e

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Aaron, I understand what you're saying about rules and formality and all, but I'm afraid I just don't agree. Many sites actually use far more complex language than we're using here. I think this is, for instance, far simpler than my post

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Actually, no. I think if you reread more carefully you will find that this is not, in fact, the case. You're free to tell me that you don't support the NDP in Canada, or that an assumption I'm making about it is wrong. You're free to tell me

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback If it had been proposed by a mod who'd proved him or herself to be fair and level-headed over a reasonable period, it wouldn't look so bad. The mod team just looks a bit rudderless at the moment. So honestly, why not just clarify the existing

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I'm somewhere in the middle with regard to rule 10. The wording seems a bit odd to me, and it could definitely be abused by a moderation team hell bent on abusing it. But imho we do need a rule, guideline, or clarification which in effect

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback So I'm going to throw out a hypothetical situation. Hopefully it's not this way, but let's just say it was.Let's say there absolutely had to be a community clause. Like. No way to avoid it. Has to happen.What would make you comfortable

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Here's a thing: if this forum had no rules, you wouldn't have to look far to find spam, cracks, abuse, and all the other stuff the rules are there to prevent, so why aren't we seeing any of this behaviour talked about in 10? It's because it's

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I've gone cold on the vote idea for the reason that it might be possible for some people to vote more than once. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/391599/#p391599 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I remember Aaron bringing up earlier about rule 10 as it is a community failure clause, whether or not we could involve the community in such instances. If it is indeed meant to be a rare use, is their a way for the community to indeed

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Again. If the rule seems easy to abuse, I feel the best way to handle that is to require it to have checks and balances.I've been there for about well hell. Since the mid 0's I guess, and there were times, when it would have probably been

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I have read it, and I have explained why it's flawed. You admit it could be abused. The difference between it and the other rules is that they're not so easy to abuse, and unlike the others, it exists to protect against a non-existent

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback I have read it, and I have explained why it's flawed. You admit it could be abused. The difference between it and the other rules is that it exists to protect against a non-existent scenario you won't provide any evidence for, and one I've

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback This rule and that rule are just more placeholders for things that don't yet exist though. It's just another imaginary scenario.   If someone were to behave in a way that the existing hard and fast rules can't cope with, sure, you need

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback You know that person who dances around the rules. No I don't, that's the trouble. I know exactly how I could behave the way you mean if I were a self indulgent pratt, but I haven't seen anyone behave like that on here over a prolonged period

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback You know that person who dances around the rules. No I don't, that's the trouble. I haven't seen anyone behave like that on here. I know a few argumentative people who blow their top now and again, but that's the web. If they cross the line

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback You know that person who dances around the rules. No I don't, that's the trouble. I know a few argumentative people who blow their top now and again, but that's the web. If they cross the line into abuse, the proper rules will deal with them

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