Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? To combat the unemployment problem among the handicapped, here in the US companies get substantial financial breaks in the form of tax deductions, for each handicapped person they hire and keep as an employee.With that in mind, I don&#

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? And we reach the scripting issue. My personal dream, I don't know if this is possible but if it is I will certainly achieve it, is to help developers make their programs and web apps accessible. The  following statement is not mea

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Open Source development doesn't necessarily have to equate to non-funded development. I think NVDA gets a lot of unreasonable stick merely for having principles and sticking with GPL-compatible license terms, which just happen

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Open Source development doesn't necessarily have to equate to non-funded development. I think NVDA gets a lot of unreasonable stick merely for having principles and sticking with GPL-compatible license terms, which just happen

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? The way small business funding works is that Agencies will help pay for scripts and whatnot under $1000, but they won't help pay for open source stuff or fund scripts to be developed.This is the problem. No one wants to spend hundre

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I can certainly see why lots of people prefer to use NVDA. Having switched to using it exclusively myself just a few months ago, there are a whole lot of features it has that I like. And it takes up a third of the space that Jaws

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? @GeneWarnerThanks for the clarification in post 23.  it's nice to know people will have a good reliable choice for at least awhile.  I remember when the first merger discussed above came about.  From 2002 through about 2007 or 8i

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? OK, OK. I'm getting the idea. It's the implication that financial standing is relevant that is hurting around here, and the issue is that you simply have different views on how best to deal with it.Well, it simply isn't

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? OK, OK. I'm getting the idea. It's the implication that financial standing is relevant that is hurting around here, and the issue is that you simply have different views on how best to deal with it.Well, it simply isn't

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? 1. Nobody asked you and if you don't like it, nobody is holding a gun to your head making you come hear and read it.2. Hm No comment. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239187#p2

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Damn it, guys! Your acting like idiots on here!GeneWarner: Enough with this idiomatic argumentative debate. If you want to debate, take it somewhere else. I'm getting extremely tired of stuff like this being posted and another p

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? There is no shame,statistically 85% of blind people are unemployed because nobody wants to hire them, so many people that want or need JAWS have no choice but to seek assistance to get it. It's the same for most of assistive techn

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? If that was truely all you meant, then why did you feel it necessary to question my financial situation and capabilities? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239178#p239178

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? There's no shame in that at all. My point was simply that it's good for me because I can download it without having to seek state aid or anything else, in other words, just as a visual user doesn't have to, I don'

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? There's no shame in that at all. My point was simply that it's good for me because I can download it without having to seek state aid or anything else, in other words, just as a visual user doesn't have to, I don'

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Forgive my ignorance, but I don't really understand the controversy here. Lots of people have no choice but to seek state aid in getting an expensive piece of assistive tech. Where is the shame in that? URL: http://forum.audiogame

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? H... No comment. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239172#p239172 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I actually didn't edit that out, I think it could've been a moderator. If someone asked me that? I would simply answer them. But since again, you had nothing intelligent to add, this is basically a rested case. I'll re pu

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I actually didn't edit that out, I think it could've been a moderator. If someone asked me that? I would simply answer them. But since again, you had nothing intelligent to add, this is basically a rested case. I'll re pu

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Ok, answer me this.I noticed that you removed your questioning my ability to pay for JAWS without assistance, from your message. So, how would you have felt if that remark had been directed at you. I think that you have already answered

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? That's the thing though, I don't need people to defend against my opinion... really. It's not like it's going to change it... if you have a defence to a fact, go ahead. But an opinion, there's really no poin

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? That's the thing though, I don't need people to defend against my opinion... really. It's not like it's going to change it... if you have a defence to a fact, go ahead. But an opinion, there's really no poin

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Brant, according to the podcast, Vector Capital, the company that accquired both Freedom Scientific and Optelek, said that for now both companies will continue as "business as usual". Consumers will not notice any change. Ove

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I don't think that JAWS or any of Freedom Scientific's other text to speech software products, like Open Book, will be affected by the merger because, as far as I can tell, Optelek is primarily a hardware company making mostly

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? ok, so I do have one question:When they say they were acquired by another firm, does this mean that they will have different people working for the companies, and that they are owned by different people now? I'm at school right no

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I don't think that JAWS or any of Freedom Scientific's other text to speech software products, like Open Book, will be affected by the merger because, as far as I can tell, Optelek is primarily a hardware company making mostly

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Jaws is required for state testing here in the U.S. So although tec training firms and TVIs would like to teach NVDA (They do!) they can't because Jaws has an exclusive contract with the common core testing commission.This is wrong

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Personally, I'm inclined to believe this could hurt JAWS users more than help them, and while a bunch of you who use JAWS have seen me on the other side of the seasaw, as it were, possibly believing me a JFW hater or what have you,

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? severstormsteve1,To answer your question.It's really quite simple, we are defending our choice against those who put down our choice by saying things like JAWS is not good. Just as you would feel inclined to defend your choice of

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? This is my last post here, only because I'm misunderstood. The only reason I asked that, Gene, was because the home licence of JAWS causts a bunch as well, but cutos to you for supporting FS like that. And again, users of JAWS? Use

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? This is my last post here, only because I'm misunderstood. The only question I asked that, Gene, was because the home licence of JAWS causts a bunch as well. And again, users of JAWS? Use your JAWS. I don't care. You can tak

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I know that it wasn't the original topic creater's entention to start a jaws verses NVDA debate, but some of us are coming very close to doing just that. Please respect other's opinions and choices, and please try to not

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Excuse me, but it was you who made this personal by questioning whether I could buy JAWS without assistance. That remark was, in my opinion, entirely un called for, or as the British would put it, completely over the top.And Now we

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Freedom Scientific @FreedomSci  Don't miss FSCast Episode 117 - we interview John Blake who discusses the Freedom Scientific and Optelec merger. http://ow.ly/UOs44 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239067#p2

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? First of all, I might had set the tone of this topic in such away that the NVDA and or JAWS debate could go on in this topic. LOL. You do make a interesting remark Sebby. One that I  think I get. I grew up in a family that did not and do

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Excuse me, but it was you who made this personal by questioning whether I could buy JAWS without assistance. That remark was, in my opinion, entirely un called for, or as the British would put it, completely over the top.And now, I will

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Excuse me, but it was you who made this personal by questioning whether I could buy JAWS without assistance. That remark was, in my opinion, entirely un called for, or as the British would put it, completely over the top.And now, I will

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Gene, stop.  Are we talking about screen readers, or your personal feelings? Personally I'd rather the former. I am not bashing JAWS. Just as you are doing, I'm simply stating reasons why I don't believe a certain screen r

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? severestormsteve1 wrote:1, it's easy to set up and get running, whereas JAWS requires registration, and from my experience people actually had to be called, to help my vision teacher and I install it.You must have run into an un

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Pro-business, eh? Live by capitalism, die by capitalism. You could always get a Mac; then your boss can be even bigger and even more rapacious than FS will ever be. Though to judge from their podcast, which I stopped listening to an age

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? When the video intercept was a thing, Jaws could do some impressive stuff--I could even get it to read text in Spider-man Cartoon Maker, which is to say, text drawn into the cartoons. (Incidentally, that's also where I first learne

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I'm speaking more in terms of financial practicality. Also, I'd like to point out that while Jaws comes with custom scripted files, NVDA has the following:1, it's easy to set up and get running, whereas JAWS requires re

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I'm speaking more in terms of financial practicality. Also, I'd like to point out that while Jaws comes with custom scripted files, NVDA has the following:1, it's easy to set up and get running, whereas JAWS requires re

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I don't know where you get your information but JAWS is not used only by institutions, I myself and most of my blind friends plus most of the blind people I know use it and we are hardly an institution. Or maybe that's ju

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? *Crosses over the name of the topic.*One word pops into mind,Jealousy  It's a merger, that's all. I agree that a lot of things in the blind market are over priced, there's a software that translates documents int

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Reviewing the article further, I ran across this:Both companies were recently acquired by Vector Capital, a San Francisco based firm that invests in market leading global technology companies.“We are excited to bring together two of the

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Reviewing the article further, I ran across this:Both companies were recently acquired by Vector Capital, a San Francisco based firm that invests in market leading global technology companies.“We are excited to bring together two of the

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? the big one is when Henter-Joyce, Arkenstone and Blazie Engineering all merged into Freedom Scientific around the year 2000. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238954#p238954

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Whether this is a good thing or bad depends on several factors.If Optelec wasn't doing that well, the merger with Freedom Scientific may keep products on the market that would otherwise have disappeared. On the other hand, it sounds

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Whether this is a good thing or bad depends on several factors.If Optelec wasn't doing that well, the merger with Freedom Scientific may keep products on the market that would otherwise have disappeared. On the other hand, it sounds

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I think the real question is whether or not they have monopoly power over the blind tech market. Window Eyes made something of a comeback last year, and NVDA is growing in popularity, so screen reader-wise, they seem to have real

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? This just looks like more Freedom Scientific bashing to me.First of all, before the merger can happen it has to be approved by the Fedral Trade Commision. One of their jobs is to insure that businesses don't get so big that they

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

Re: When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? Hello,I am not very sure what to think of this, for now I think we'll just have to wait and see. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238917#p238917 ___ Audiogames-refl

When is a business to big? FS in another Merger?

When is a business to big? FS in another Merger? I am more of the type of person that would think that the government is mainly there for defense and should stay out of my life as much as possible. I may even go as far to say that if you want something bad enough, you go out and work for