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Re: extremely disturbing news Fine, dgleks. Think what you want. But do not ever mention my mother in any of our discussions; she does not concern you. You are not my mentor, you are not my controller/parent/guardian/friend/... you get the picture. So shove off. Im tired of your vitriol

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Re: extremely disturbing news Absolutely right Devin and Steve the Severe Storm. And even Sam, who was angry at first, of course, says this topic should be closed, not will Dglex please stop spewing vitriol and Ethan, just try not to get caught into it. We all have different viewpoints

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Re: extremely disturbing news Moderation! For Dglexs comments in posts 64, 67, and 80, which (irrispective of the rights and wrongs of the situation), definitely get into the personal (indeed not to mention an attack on the community as a hole), he has been banned from the forum for three

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Re: extremely disturbing news Yall, itll fall when it falls. If youre so against this topic, then skip it. Or if you must, configure your screen readers speech to say blank instead of the name of this topic. Now come on yall! This constant we gotta forget this Oh my gosh this topic is bad

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Re: extremely disturbing news This topic should quite honestly just be closed. This hole thing with mason has been solved. Guillem got what he wanted for mason to have better security, we all got what we wanted, masons passwords are encrypted, everythings changed. It all worked out

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Re: extremely disturbing news LOL Ethin you said, We had no other choice. We, includes you. Read your posts over and over before you comment with useless retorts. Im not dragging your mother into anything. Mind you, she would probably love to find out what youre up to online these days

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Re: extremely disturbing news Dgleks wrote:@Ethin, I doubt you know what youre talking about when you said It had to be done.It didnt have to be done. It was completely and 100% your choice to hack. Not Masons, not your mothers, mind you shed probably like to know what secret activities

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Re: extremely disturbing news Yes, it was their choice. Theres always a choice, but any other choice woulda led to Masons security not being fixed. Maybe. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220811#p220811 ___ Audiogames

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Re: extremely disturbing news But anyway, yes, there are some points that people feel need to be driven home. I understand. And still, while some of these posts have been slight slam-dunks on Guillem and Ethin, but weve all remained at least close to civil here. All Im saying, dont heat

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Re: extremely disturbing news True Steve But Ethin is trying to say that I blaimed him and said he was part of it, so hes twisting my words around. If he didnt even wanna be brought up in the first place, then maybe he shouldnt have posted here and made it sound like he was part

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Re: extremely disturbing news OK... sure... whatever. First of all Ethin no one is dragging your mother into an online audio game hacking scandal. Second off, as Jack said theres no need to start up a flame war again. Ethin your post sseemed a bit on the personal side, DGlekss post

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Re: extremely disturbing news I never made it sound like I was apart of the situation at all. I was just trying to reinforce Guillems points.Also, Dgleks, I will reference your other post. do not involve my mother in this. Do not involve any other family of mine in this. HOw would you like

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Re: extremely disturbing news I never made it sound like I was apart of the situation at all. I was just trying to reinforce Guillems points. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220887#p220887 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: extremely disturbing news Im trying not to, but when people say things that are offensive, it shows that he could care less about what he means, and that he jsut says things because he knows he can. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220913#p220913

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Re: extremely disturbing news Let me ask you this Ethin. Did I ever, in my post, say the words, You were in volved with the actual hacking? Please answer Yes or No. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220792#p220792

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Re: extremely disturbing news Indeed. And requesting that we not post to this topic anymore is not morally correct, by the forums standards. While it is true that flaming probably has gone on in this topic, (I couldnt be bothered to read such useless junk), it does not mean that no further

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Re: extremely disturbing news No, we shouldnt.*sighs* This is why most of the blind community is fucked up. You know what happened if you went out in the real world and said what people have said in this topic? Ill tell you what, wed get our asses handed to us, some people on this thread

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Re: extremely disturbing news Maybe it was the hacker who wrote the message and not him. And I agree with this it brings to light these issues and for one dont use dropbox it is not open information your storing. I would recommend using syncthing or mycloud. As for the people with games

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Re: extremely disturbing news @dgleks, stop blaming me for hacking anything. You know I didnt hack anything that involved mason, or helped him hack anything. So dont even think about blaming me. That shows that you, too, do not ahve your facts correct. While I might ahve been a little blut

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Re: extremely disturbing news @Ethin, I doubt you know what youre talking about when you said It had to be done.It didnt have to be done. It was completely and 100% your choice to hack. Not Masons, not your mothers, mind you shed probably like to know what secret activities youve been up

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Re: extremely disturbing news The thing is, Dgleks is right. Just because you dont have good security, doesnt make it right to hack, put yourself on the other end of that spectrum. If you have poor security, its not an excuse for that. However if you are hit by the run of the mill

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ahh, again? More vitriol? As Dark said in another topic, this issue is just gettin way outa hand. I think its time we just let this topic sink to the bottom until Dark closes it. Either it gets closed, or we could just ignore it and it will go deep down

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ill add as a closing remark here that you should simply assume that your information could be hacked on anything from a game server to your bank. Given that banks and credit card merchants will generally cover your losses, this may not be a serious

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Re: extremely disturbing news To be honest, anyone shouldnt have a computer if they dont know what security is. Its just too much of a frisk if they dont know what security is, the internet is gonna hit people like that hard. Look, hex your passwords, guys. Theres a free text-hex converter

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hi,Themadviolinist, I agree completely. I am extremely parranoied about my security to the point I never use the same password twice. I encrypt any sensative information I might have on a drive, because anything can be hacked at absolutely any time, including

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hi,There are actually people employed to do this stuff (the so called white-hat hackers), and they get paid huge amounts of money to break security for companies. Indeed, I thought about doing this myself, but decided Id rather program the security rather than

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Re: extremely disturbing news I personally agree here. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220384#p220384 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: extremely disturbing news Friends, look at post 11 onword in the topic an apology in general game discussion and this entire thing is solved! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220388#p220388 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news I believe I understand all of your points, even if I dont share them. I am sure this will happen again, but it will not be anything of my doing. I did all I needed to do. Oh, and Sam, I am very sorry because this may piss some people off, but I have to say

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hi,While I wouldnt necisarily report this because that would make me as immature as some of the hackers, I am saying that other people will. Also, its not damage against a miner you have to be worryed about, it would be hacking computers with malicious intent

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Re: extremely disturbing news That is exactly the point I tried to maek in my last post, Kyle. I am not sure it worked, and its quite sad. But Ill leave it up to him, and I hope you all will agree with me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220320#p220320

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Re: extremely disturbing news For the record, the industry standard way of doing this sort of thing is to report it to the developer, complete with a detailed description of the exploit and then wait some amount of time, then release a message explaining the danger of the exploit

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Re: extremely disturbing news Couldnt agree more. Being polight is good, but not everyones gonna follow it, sadly. I have no idea what server provider hes using. But, if better security is in order, and his provider doesnt support it, I think, its time, to make the game fully shareware. Im

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Re: extremely disturbing news Couldnt agree more. Being polight is good, but not everyones gonna follow it, sadly. I have no idea what server provider hes using. But, if better security is in order, and his provider doesnt support it, I think, its time, to make the game fully shareware. Im

Re: extremely disturbing news

Re: extremely disturbing news Couldnt agree more. Being polight is good, but not everyones gonna follow it, sadly. I have no idea what server provider hes using. But, if better security is in order, and his provider doesnt support it, I think, its time, to make the game fully shareware. Im

Re: extremely disturbing news

Re: extremely disturbing news Couldnt agree more. Being polight is good, but not everyones gonna follow it, sadly. I have no idea what server provider hes using. But, if better security is in order, and his provider doesnt support it, I think, its time, to make the game fully shareware. Im

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Re: extremely disturbing news Heh.Some technical points here.As far as I know, on a linux vps even if its $5.00, they give you full control on your instance. So they dont decide what security you have, you do.I would bedt a lot that windows server have the same amount of control, so really

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Re: extremely disturbing news Thats what I figured. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220333#p220333 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: extremely disturbing news Sam, really? You think I was the other who hacked your server? Let me tell you, good sir, that my IP starts with 74.207, and ends in 162.234. Effectly, its 74.207.162.234. Of course, I move around, so my IPs always changing, but still, dude? Are you

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Re: extremely disturbing news Heh.Some technical points here.As far as I know, on a linux vps even if its $5.00, they give you full control on your instance. So they dont decide what security you have, you do.I would bedt a lot that windows server have the same amount of control, so really

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Re: extremely disturbing news Heh.Some technical points here.As far as I know, on a linux vps even if its $5.00, they give you full control on your instance. So they dont decide what security you have, you do.I would bet a lot that windows server have the same amount of control, so really

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hacking rarely if ever requires mathematics.I mean, maybe when youre compiling your own hacks from scratch and stuff. But most of it is social engineering, and script kittism. What I have to do to hack a game is scan for vulnerabilities, and then just type

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Re: extremely disturbing news I never heard of Ultrapower, and Im surprised that hackers are very skilled in mathematics to work at breaking codes. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220339#p220339 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news It took guts to come forward like that. At the very least, I think we can all appreciate that the mystery is solved and we have the story now. Assuming this is the whole story of course.I really cant tell how the rest of this conversation is going to go, so

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hello,I am the individual known as Guillem (btw, thanks for giving that out, I had no intention to) who Sam has been talking about for the last day. I dont know what this will exactly get me, but it surely will be nothing good from most of you. I believe all

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Re: extremely disturbing news *insert lots of angry rant here so aprone can moderate and has something to do here*That said, I guess youre like a grey hat hcker-you hack peoples computer and then tell them how you hacked into their computers.Anyway, I dont care. If you dont have security

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Re: extremely disturbing news Guillem is not lying. He is an honest man. @guillem: While hacking technically leads to no good intention, Im giving you credit here. You, unlike other hackers, had an intention other than unnecessary destruction. You did it to make a point, and if nothing

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Re: extremely disturbing news @Kyle12, hacking Masons systems was the only way to get him to listen. we told him that has security was complete shit gave no result, so we had to take it to extra measures. Guillem cannot go to Jail because he had a complete, valid point he was trying

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Re: extremely disturbing news Coming forward about this was the only way to clear all the mess that this whole sequence of events created. I just thought it was right to do it because, even if it brought my reputation right down to hell, no-one would need to lie about anything anymore

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Re: extremely disturbing news last night, he was lying to me. But heres the thing. You dont use someones password to hack it, then say oh, I did it as a nudge. Truth is you dont hack it anyway. Thanks to that, the source went public, people were posting about you doing that, and I have

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Re: extremely disturbing news A freaking maising.And not in a good way either.Youre just like one of these phone freaks that hacked the bell system because they could. This isnt even a good idea to prove a point to somebody. From what youve posted here, you can actually be put in jail

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Re: extremely disturbing news @ethin. That doesnt stop the way in which he did it being illegal. I understand proving a point was the only way to get him to listen, but I also understand that two wrongs do not make a right what so ever and that this is against a few laws, not just

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ok. if I were a moderator, I would have given the moderation message. Let me say this, though. Ethin and Kyle are both right and wrong in their own way. I know about the law. I am not sure how this would be handled in Spain or England, but, if Mason, ever

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Re: extremely disturbing news More than 1 person has suggested some sort of moderation is in order here, so I should at least post something.I havent gone back through every post with a fine toothed comb, but while originally reading each one nothing jumped out at me as being in need

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Re: extremely disturbing news alright. I will give you a perspective that is way outside and way neutral on this and will be brief and somewhat harsh about it:First. A security breach? that is nothing. even sony had them and there is a site called has sony been hacked dot com, or something

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Re: extremely disturbing news [[wow]] guillem and ethin. Because of your hack, my source code is leaked, everyone knows masons password, and I wonder now if ethin, was the other guy. I could say so many bad things right now about the both of you and its taking all I have to hold back. Yeh

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ok, now. We dont want the mods to go putting down a moderation message. Sam, you have every tight to be angry about this, but, seriously. We need to take it down a notch. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220232#p220232

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ok, lets put it this way. A hack, no matter the good intentions, will have at least a lil bit of dammage. Both Tyler and Sam have valid points that I will not dispute, and I dont blame anyone for getting pissed off, after all this was a pretty confusing

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Re: extremely disturbing news Aprone, do you remember all those times people kept hacking swamp? Do you remember jhow you tried and tried to stop it? Emagine what damahe that hack would have done if that had have happened to you instead of mason? just think. Securety is escential if you

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Re: extremely disturbing news Techmaster, I completely agree with you. This was a horrible breach of security that may, or could have, affected a whole lot of people. If you bring this up as a reason for me to do something as a forum moderator, then Im not sure I understand where youre

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Re: extremely disturbing news he sees my point! yes, aprone. youre right. We cant do anything to them, because it wasnt a hack on the forum directly. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220274#p220274 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news Gosh! 446 passwords that is ridiculous URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220176#p220176 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: extremely disturbing news @Ghost writerWell, you think theyre not gaining anything from it, but they may rather find it as an achievement, which theyd been working on for a long time, and when they do it, they feel extremely good. you wont believe me. Similar was the case when one

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Re: extremely disturbing news It was supposed to do IP, but that got broken URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220140#p220140 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hi,I would not just record their user name and computer name. Perhaps recording their IP address, operating system, location, hardware configuration (if possible), anda ll other information you can retrieve. Then, send it in to the NSA. Theyll take it from

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ill admit Im totally confused by everything thats going on, here and in the UltraPower thread. First theres claims of a hacker getting a hold of everyones passwords and the games source code. Next its claimed to only be a joke. It is even stated

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Re: extremely disturbing news Well well well, very intresting update. Yup, it was guillem. That sun of a mother... Well, remember how I got the IP logged into the masonasons skype account? Well intrestingly enough, the IP of the skype name guilevi2, which is guillems skype name

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Re: extremely disturbing news Well, Its like a movie that my father watched, it is called atack the net or something, how hwo the enemies ar hackers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=220124#p220124 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news @samtypy1, Unfortunately, when it comes to hacking, I have one thing to say: deal with it. Its apart of life, and no matter what you do, no ones going to listen to you. For all the hackers care, were just impotent little idiots who shouldnt exist. They want

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Re: extremely disturbing news Im not to mad about my source code being stollen, I just changed the server and the encryption keys so hell if I care, most of it is useless anyway, besides the fact that now people can clone stw, but id notise and I think theyd fail horibly. But its sad

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Re: extremely disturbing news Its a personal ego thing.Its basically so you can tell yourself I hacked that server, am I not the smartest person who ever existed?Some people do it to see if they can do it, and some do just to break systems. Some also do it to show people it can be done

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Re: extremely disturbing news Ok, heres the hole thing so far. The thing that was a prank was mason pretending to get into UP and saying that he wanted to kill the blind comunity, that was a complete prank, the hole Original UP hacking. Well, then 2 days later, bryan smart calls me up

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Re: extremely disturbing news What he do or say when talking to his close friends is entirely his business, but when it goes publicly to a forum like this, no, I dont think weve gone too far.Best regards, Haramir. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219926#p219926

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Re: extremely disturbing news Well, as I recall, speeder was the one who notified of it to us I mean, I understand. He gets scared that masans been hacked. Then he figures out its a prank, so he has to post here. But still it wasnt a public prank. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net

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Re: extremely disturbing news I fail to see how hacking someone gives anyone any personal gain. Hacking is the type of thing that just shouldnt be done because A. Its highly illegal and B. what gain do you get from it? It ruins other peoples experiences and for what? So you can tell

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Re: extremely disturbing news Mason pulled this off and it lasted for quite a fiew hours. Speeder posted about this while it was happening, and at that point he didnt know. Accept we now have more pressing issues, it could be mason with others pranking us, but I know mason has access to my

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Re: extremely disturbing news he only talked to me, but his actions had further reaching consequences as the ultrapower server seemed to be gone. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219886#p219886 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news Erm, arent we taking this a little far?I mean. As far as I know, soundworks only talked with Devin. There wasnt much published publicly...I mean, if he posted something here, then sure it wouldve been a prank in bad taste. But I dont know. I wouldnt want

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Re: extremely disturbing news Well afrim, as Devin said it wasnt a hacker. But that, though it was a clever joke, it took it... a bit... too far. I wasnt extremely scared myself... but it certainly earned a delete of Mason on my skype. Ill think about adding him back, but Im in no hurry

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hi,Not too much to say because I believe that it has already been said. For your computers safety if you have ever heard of Hot spot shield, go and check it out, it might be worth, at least as long as this hacker is around. Hot spot shield can automatically

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Re: extremely disturbing news Um, [[wow]]. I thought thatr was a prank. Mason, if you read this, hackers are the ones who should be social engineering people, not coders. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219826#p219826

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Re: extremely disturbing news I got not much to say, except that it is a childish behaviour.Best regards, Haramir. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219823#p219823 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news Im afraid I agree with Alex, staging pranks of that level of seriousness really doesnt show a mature attitude, its like someone setting off fire alarms for fun, particularly because of passed hacker troubles. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid

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Re: extremely disturbing news Hello,This is definitely childish behaviour, and that prank has gone too far. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219850#p219850 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: extremely disturbing news aaron wrote:Hello,This is definitely childish behaviour, and that prank has gone too far.While I think Mason intended it to be nothing more than a joke, it definitely makes people think twice about playing online games. There have been many hacking attempts

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Re: extremely disturbing news I agree with you all, it was pretty childish. Im not even sure what made me want to do it anyway. It was just spur of the moment thing. True, I probably shouldnt have done it, but whats done is done, Im afraid. I wont do it again without warning next time

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Re: extremely disturbing news @Mason, I am glad you recognize this as childish. To be honest though not knowing why you do something I find a little worrying, especially if you are in charge of a game server sinse its a responsable business and if I were playing a game or on a forum myself

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Re: extremely disturbing news thanks for the announcement. Now I think I wont be going on UltraPower for a while until the issue is resolved. Sam also has had problems with hackers messing with Survive the Wild and changing character stats, like health, energy, and hunger. I suspect

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Re: extremely disturbing news as it turns out this was a prank staged by mason. there is no hacker, there is no exploit of information. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219784#p219784 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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extremely disturbing news this is not a troll, this is not a spam, nor a bid for attention though at first it may seem to be so. about an hour ago, ultrapower was hacked by someone, who, using some form of hacking technology was able to gain access to masons ultrapower password. about 10

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Re: extremely disturbing news Worst prank Ive ever heard of... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219803#p219803 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin