[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread mortod
Forgive me for posting again here, but I had no response in the 'General' forum, and the post has now scrolled off the bottom. I'm assuming that there are more users of linear power supplies in this Audiohphile section. Having just built my PSU, I am somewhat concerned by how hot it gets, even

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread Andyoz
The more I think about it, the more I can see that an audiophile version could fit into Slim Devices product line with hurting sales of their basic model. The hot version would need to be priced well above the basic version though (3 to 4 times) Having a hot model may well get audiophiles to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread funkstar
Depending on how you define an audiophile, i really am not one. For example, the most i have ever spent on a single piece of audio gear is £300, and that was my Panasonic surround reciever (perhaps my DVD player was £350 about 6 years ago). So paying $2000 (for the sake of argument) on a high end

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread Andyoz
Yep, there's definately guys who would buy it but I agree it would always be a low volume seller. All the activity on the audiophile internet forums I look at seem to be based around to the SB. Remember that this type of buyer is likely to have many SB's throughout their house so there

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which input channel

2006-05-23 Thread pkfox
Hello All, does it make any difference what input channel I connect my SB3 to ? , I have a Meridian 551 amp , thanks -- pkfox pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread funkstar
Also if it is mostly based on the regular SB3 (same firmware, processor, case etc) then support and inventory isn't going to increase *too* much -- funkstar funkstar's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Skunk
mortod Wrote: Is it worth fitting a mains power switch for safety's sake ? Sure, if you think you will be there to manually flip the switch when/if the wires start melting :-) Otherwise a fuse would be a great safety feature. Mine doesn't get very warm, hard to even tell it's on unless I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Which input channel

2006-05-23 Thread pkfox
might as well ask this as well ?, I've ordered a DAC Lite 60 which should arrive some time this week, which output should I use (optical / coax ) ? also any tips on interconnects greatly appreciated, I take it it's coax or optical from the SB3 and RCA's into the 551 regards Pete Kane --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Heuer
Mine has been on non-stop since I built it (March). Case temperature with SB3 in standby is currently 34c. If your case temperature is in or around this figure then no need to worry. -- Heuer Heuer's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Which input channel

2006-05-23 Thread snarlydwarf
Whichever you like, the SB3 has both optical and coax outputs. As to which is 'better'... they're the same, but some people swear by one or the other. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Phil Leigh
of course I guess you know that these fuses won't be good for sound quality ... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread Phil Leigh
I agree - we really need a reasonably priced fully loaded official SB+ and some favourable reviews to blow the whole upmarket CDP sector wide-open. However - and I know this isn't where SD are at - to really make this a mass market revolution we'd need to get rid of the dependency on an external

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Skunk
Phil Leigh Wrote: of course I guess you know that these fuses won't be good for sound quality ... Well, you could always get an audiophile fuse for $30 (sorry, i don't have a link to a supplier). Then you'd have to get an audiophile fuse holder too, or hard wire it. I may try hardwiring a $2

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Phil Leigh
I was thinking of the DC fuse (and my tongue was somewhat in my cheek) :o) It's just that some people will obsess about the quality of the mains or DC cable but ignore the teeny weeny little fuse and rubbish fuse-holder that's in-line -- Phil Leigh

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread ezkcdude
Phil Leigh Wrote: However - and I know this isn't where SD are at - to really make this a mass market revolution we'd need to get rid of the dependency on an external computer and its CD drive - let's have a one-box No, no, no! This isn't Sonos here. We all already have computers. At least,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Skunk
Phil Leigh Wrote: It's just that some people will obsess about the quality of the mains or DC cable but ignore the teeny weeny little fuse and rubbish fuse-holder that's in-line Speaking of rubbish, I would highly not recommend the fuseholder or DC connectors from RadioShack. Here's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread Phil Leigh
ezkcdude Wrote: No, no, no! This isn't Sonos here. We all already have computers. At least, that should be the assumption. If you don't have a computer in today's world, you're not part of the mass market. I'm not going to spend $1000 for an all-in-one solution, when I already have

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread Ben Diss
I agree with ezkcdude. It's that we already own the PC that makes the SB marketable. -Ben -- Ben Diss Ben Diss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4289 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Which input channel

2006-05-23 Thread Skunk
snarlydwarf Wrote: As to which is 'better'... they're the same, but some people swear by one or the other. I seem to recall a difference in the jitter measurements (?). pkfox, I ordered a digital RCA from bluejeans cable last night. It was $14 for a four foot cable, probably not the best,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread Phil Leigh
yes - marketable to us...we're the early adopters of combining computers and hi-fi in a domestic replay setting...in 10-20 years time I guess it'll be the norm (unless Apple, Sony and the record companies kill it with DRM, AAC etc). Surely you know I think the SB is the best thing since sliced

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Which input channel

2006-05-23 Thread Phil Leigh
You need to try both - the outcome is heavily system dependant. You cannot assume that one or the other is always better. There are too many variables at play (cables plugs, earth quality, AC quality, stray RFI etc). You may need to consider attenuating the Meridian line input if the SB is too

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Heuer
mortod Wrote: I have fused both the input and output, .25 and 2A respectively. A switch would just give me peace of mind whilst not at home. Are you measuring 34C inside the case or on the casing ? If I touch the transformer itself then it reads 50C. Do you both have the sensing links in

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dual File Formats?

2006-05-23 Thread Baylorgator
Thanks for the replies. After reading them and then spending a ridiculous amount of time on bulliten boards, it looks like I will either rip to FLAC or AIFF for native playback on the SB3. Right now I'm leaning slightly towards the jriver software as a no hassle solution which could eliminate

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread Jitterbug
An option to keep the heat and the power consumption down is to use the AmpSwitch plug-in and a relay to switch the power source from the PowerOne supply and the stock PSU when the system goes into standby. A small cap across the DC lines shoud keep the SB alive during switching. -- Jitterbug

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread ezkcdude
Phil, the problem with the one-box solution here is that it is one *expensive* box! You must have heard of the Law of $500, right? That's the threshold price that consumer electronics devices, for the most part, must fall below before being widely adopted. Just look at two very current examples:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Power-One supply - how hot should they get ?

2006-05-23 Thread ezkcdude
One of you guys should start a thread in the DIY forum about making these power supplies. I'm thinking about getting one of the triple-output Power One models (+5,+/-12 or 15 V) from Digi-Key as the PSU for a DAC I am working on. It would be nice to know what connectors, cables, etc. everyone is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dual File Formats?

2006-05-23 Thread gandt
To answer your questions i'd say 1) it takes a little bit longer to transcode to mp3 but not unacceptably so maybe 20% more though i havent timed it 2) as good as EAC - now thats a big subject - I think I'm safeish saying this a) On an unproblematic disc anything decent (like jriver and the flac

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dual File Formats?

2006-05-23 Thread Baylorgator
Thanks gandt. I'll take your advice, download the free trial jriver and not sweat the details unless a disk starts laboring. Thanks again. -- Baylorgator Baylorgator's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread mauidan
ezkcdude Wrote: Phil, the problem with the one-box solution here is that it is one *expensive* box! You must have heard of the Law of $500, right? That's the threshold price that consumer electronics devices, for the most part, must fall below before being widely adopted. Just look at two

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread ezkcdude
mauidan Wrote: A small company like SD may not be able to make Do-it-all Squeezey (server, GUI, wireless network) that sells for under $500., but that doesn't mean the big guys like Sony, Pioneer,etc which already have DVD recorders w/HDs that sell for $500., won't simply convert these units

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile Version

2006-05-23 Thread ehart
There are one-box solutions that are pretty close to what is being described here. Look at the Olive servers -- the low end sells for $900 and does pretty much everything described here. The high end sells for $3000, but that's another beast altogether. www.olive.us. - Eric -- ehart

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lambda Power Supply

2006-05-23 Thread fezco
Howdy Slim Folks. Well I took your advice and installed a more robust power supply for my SqB3. This is a super regulated supply sold by the local electronics surplus shop here in Pasadena, CA. They were having 'power supply' blowout day, so I picked up a Lambda for $10. Not bad eh.?.?.. The only