P Floding;176991 Wrote:
> Here are some pics.
I noticed from your pics that the ground lead of the scope looks like a
clip lead (though it's hard to tell). What I've found in measurements
of mixed analog and digital systems (military applications) is that if
you try to measure the noise in the
PhilNYC;177291 Wrote:
> Because this is a forum about Slim Devices gear, not a music forum
> (although there is some activity in the Music section here...)...
>
> And for me, I'll go through all of the discussion about how to put
> together a good system and get the most out of it...but when it
I propose splitting the entire forum into "believers" and
"nonbelievers" areas with all the same sub-forums/topic headings. That
way one would know where to go to be free of offensive posts. The two
sides could make jokes about each other with impunity because no one
from the other side would e
I now downloaded Winamp 5.32 (I had 5.3), and FLAC is now indeed
included standard as Flake SVN r108. Note that when I bought Winamp Pro
a few days ago, the version I downloaded was 5.30, so these days skip
the commercial and go to the support site right away!
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pablolie
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Most audiophiles don't recognize the the music industry is a business
designed to make money. Real money. Those of us interested in high
quality reproduction do not constitute a large enough market to make
'real money'. For the most part superior recordings are made by
boutique labels recording 2
I'm not sure if I qualify as an "Audiophile" but I'm connecting my S3 to
an Onkyo M-504 power amp and driving a pair of Infinity Infitessimals
and was wondering if I should use the RCA jacks to go to the amp or
should I find an external DAC and use one of the spdif ports?
Any suggestions on a)if
Raptus;177309 Wrote:
> I'd formulate it like this:
>
> Music is essentially a transmission of ideas, and as long as these
> ideas get past in a sufficiently clear way, that is all that matters.
>
Defining 'sufficiently clear' is the hard part. Consider a common
revelation after upgrading one's
I reported in another thread a high pitched tone, which others have also
heard in this thread and others.
As I run all my systems without preamps, I had on order a pair of -20dB
fixed attenuators to match line levels and push my digital volume
control up to the top end for my Rotel power amp syst
GaryB;176705 Wrote:
> I've been away from this forum for quite a few months and decided to pop
> in yesterday. I contributed to Deaf Cat's thread on whether isolating
> feet might help the SB3 and quickly found myself mired in a discussion
> about double blind testing (DBT).
> On other forums
I'd formulate it like this:
Music is essentially a transmission of ideas, and as long as these
ideas get past in a sufficiently clear way, that is all that matters.
That's the reason why people can enjoy even very old and bad recordings
(for todays standards), or vinyl, or bad MP3s, or that we c
> Bitrates vary wildly from track to track.
Thanks. Guess it works like .zip stuff, depending simply on the data
stream.
> AFAIK it's not possible to introduce any lossy compression
> into FLAC. It would defeat the definition of the format after
> all! ;)
I am using Winamp Pro 5.3. I was exp
Most of the responses in this thread have put " music first", but I must
admit that I am skeptical. In the real world, 90% percent of music that
is reproduced by a/v systems is of the "popular" genre. That is, the
performers have (let's be kind) modest vocal or instrumental abilities,
and whatev
haunyack;177289 Wrote:
>
> So...if it truly is "about the music" then why is there no discussion
> of things like the modal effect on the diatonic scale or the
> relationship between a flatted fifth as opposed to the the "blue note"?
Because this is a forum about Slim Devices gear, not a music
PhilNYC;177283 Wrote:
> Hey, you ain't kidding...here's my amp... ;-)
You make me blush!
So...if it truly is "about the music" then why is there no discussion
of things like the modal effect on the diatonic scale or the
relationship between a flatted fifth as opposed to the the "blue note"?
-
It would be an interesting experiment for you to encode a few tracks at
16bit,44khz and see if you can hear the difference in playback when
compared to your high bitrate tracks.
-Ben
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Ben Diss
'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -> 'Lavry DA10'
(http://www.lavryengineering
haunyack;177274 Wrote:
> To my thinking...it's just a cover for the age old debate "mine is
> bigger than yours".
>
Hey, you ain't kidding...here's my amp... ;-)
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Audiophile - if some people feel that they must define an aspect of
themselves with a word - so be it.
Folks need to belong.
To my thinking...it's just a cover for the age old debate "mine is
bigger than yours".
Oboy...I just plunked $.xx down on a
SuperGizmatroidDualDubisarial_HockeyPuck fo
opaqueice;177167 Wrote:
>
> Several people said they want to hear the music as intended by the
> engineer. I guess I meant the question more generally: suppose you
> were making the recording as well as listening - what would be your
> goal? And for electronic music things are different, so l
pablolie;87888 Wrote:
> Indeed, why not? I may give it a try. The main reason is inertia - I had
> started digitizing my music collection a while ago, and started off with
> my LP collection about 2 years ago - and back then following some online
> research decided on the MP3 256k CBR format. I'd
opaqueice;177167 Wrote:
> Adam, maybe what you need is perfect video reproduction as well, to
> create the illusion you're looking through an aperature into the
> concert hall.
Not really - to get close to the actual performance it would have to be
far too loud and broad frequency range - my nei
Let me back up a bit: I DO enjoy the equipment! Indeed, my wife and most
people who know me think I'm an absolute obsessive/compulsive nut case
when it comes to a/v gear. And they're pretty much right. I rarely keep
any piece of equipment in my main rig more than a few years. It's just
that my in
Personally I want the most transparent representation of what is on the
medium I am listening to as is practical.
It's not really possible to hear 'what the engineer intended' as the
engineer is mixing/mastering for multiple systems, if he's worth his
salt.
Many studios I've been in have multipl
pablolie;177207 Wrote:
> On another note, I see Winamp is compressing CDs at about ~650kbps as a
> FLAC... I was expecting 700-800, is it possible that the Winamp FLAC
> codec actually introduces some lossy compression (it can be configured
> to, which given the name of the format does not seem t
pablolie;177207 Wrote:
> > If you want better quality you'll need to rip a CD, or find a
> > higher quality download.
>
> Apple iTunes typically gets notes for some of the best sound quality
> online - and yet it's 128 kbps AAC. Which comes to show audiophile ears
> don't need to look for downl
There's an audiophile I'm friendly with who invites me over to his place
every few months. The invitation is usually expressed as "Hey, I have a
new component that I'd like to have you hear and get your thoughts."
This has gone on for about 3 years now. The last time I was there, he
had some ne
pablolie;177207 Wrote:
>
>
> Conversion to another format is inevitable when one has a downloaded
> library because
> (a) SB will not play DRM AAC content from iTunes
> (b) Even when it does, the DRM stuff has hickups over time. I have had
> to contact support to regrant me a license for stuff
Just wanted to actually record that I have modified my stanza on this a
year later:
I have indeed re-ripped my favorite albums with FLAC, and for albums I
merely like I indeed think that MP3 320kbps is audibly superior to
256kbps.
Just for the record, one of those live and learn things.
***A
BTW - I rip to wav at 8x speed with AudioGrabber. I couldn't get the EAC
ripper (which is often recommended) to work.
I then use 'Flac Frontend', along with the regular FLAC encoder, to
convert to FLAC.
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Codmate
Codmate
If your sound card supports ASIO, you should be using Foobar with the
ASIO plugin.
This works wonders with M-Audio Delta series cards IME.
Here's a guide on how to do it that I posted on another forum a while
back...
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Basically 'ASIO'
(http://en.wikipedia.or
> .. I certainly appreciate and desire high quality audio
> performance, but the music always comes first. ..
In fact, it puzzles me that I know people that have spent the money on
a B&O Nautilus pair, and yet I can't recall them ever listening to
music. And when they talk about music, they'll m
I'm definitely a music-first audiophile, although I will admit that
there is some music that I like which I don't listen to anymore on my
system because the recordings sound very bright and fatiguingI'll
listen to them in the car, but not at home.
--
PhilNYC
Sonic Spirits Inc.
http://www.s
I certainly appreciate and desire high quality audio performance, but
the music always comes first. I'd rather have my favorite music and a
boom box than spend the rest of my life listening to critically lauded
music that I personally don't care for, over a complete Krell or Mac
system. Luckily, t
Music are like wine and food.
We are generally happy with what we have. The difference is that some
people are curious about new experiences.
We also have a certain minimum expectation (in terms of quality and
experience).
Music is like Wine for me I would rather have a little of good or very
goo
> If you want better quality you'll need to rip a CD, or find a
> higher quality download.
Apple iTunes typically gets notes for some of the best sound quality
online - and yet it's 128 kbps AAC. Which comes to show audiophile ears
don't need to look for downloads yet as a rule. :-(
Conversion
Ron F.;176886 Wrote:
> If I were a new Logitech board member, I would certainly want to be
> brought up to speed quickly and reviewing the marching orders the ED
> was giving the "general managers." That said, my desire would be to
> make billions - not millions.
>
> To most people in the First
I've always found variations on this topic interesting. I remember in
high school my friend spent $100 to put a stereo with speakers in his
truck. I did not think it was possible to spend less on a new system.
Somehow the placement of the speakers made them sound extremely full
when we listened
matthijskoopmans;176998 Wrote:
> Interesting point...
>
> I can't stand bad music. No, I don't want to start a debate about
> taste, but we all know of some music that isn't worth a single bit on
> your hard drive (some talent shows spring to mind).
>
> However, good music on a bad system does
tyler_durden;177174 Wrote:
> Replaygain does NOT alter the audio data one bit.
>
I'm pretty sure there are some programs that apply gain to the tracks
when ripping CDs. I shouldn't have called it replay gain; as you say
replaygain just adds a tag to a FLAC file.
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opaqueice
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okay, here is my way to get the files from LINN to work:
use the microsoft tool "wmal2pcm.exe" to convert WMA lossless to WAV.
the WAV will have the format 24bit 88.2 kHz.
then I used audacity to upsample them (with best settings possible,
high quality dither shaped and high quality sinc interp
opaqueice;177163 Wrote:
>
> You might also check to make sure winamp doesn't have a replay gain
> option. If it does it might be leveling the volume of the tracks
> before it encodes to FLAC, in which case you're not getting a true
> copy. I don't use winamp, but in other software that's somet
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moshulu;177091 Wrote:
> What it means to me in practice is that I have no sympathy or
> understanding for people who try to get their home audio system to
> re-create something approaching the experience of a live performance.
> This is so far from being achievable so as to be a meaningless go
Very interesting responses - thanks, all.
Several people said they want to hear the music as intended by the
engineer. I guess I meant the question more generally: suppose you
were making the recording as well as listening - what would be your
goal? And for electronic music things are differen
It's worse than that - re-encoding one lossy format as another (or the
same at a different bitrate) is a very bad idea. Transcoding, as it's
called, leads to all sorts of artifacts due to the filtering used to
remove information from the track being applied twice.
Transcoding lossy to lossless i
Hi,
just tried to manually convert a 88.2 kHz/24bit .wav file to flac:
Code:
D:\Download>flac -f recit24bit.wav
flac 1.1.3, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006 Josh Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you a
moshulu;177091 Wrote:
> What it means to me in practice is that I have no sympathy or
> understanding for people who try to get their home audio system to
> re-create something approaching the experience of a live performance.
Yeah, string 'em up! ;-)
(I put it down the language barrier.)
I agr
Take a look at Linkwitzlabs Orions - pretty amazing speakers. The can
be built as a kit or turnkey from the provider WoodArtistry.
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/
I have them and could not be happier.
-MA
regalma1 wrote:
> I meant to say I am looking for speakers that can play all types of
> music
pablolie;176866 Wrote:
>
>
> And I have to admit to downloading a fair amount of stuff from iTunes,
> which of cource comes at 128kbps... and while I'll admit I'll go and
> re-rip it at 320kbps MP3, it ought to probably only merit 256kbps in my
> opinion due to the originally compromised format
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