Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread crooner
Actually, using a portable AM radio to spot RFI sources is well documented. It is the simplest way to determine this type of interference. I think your comments about AM listening preferences came a little heavy handed. No one is talking about using the radio for entertainment purposes. The conse

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread tyler_durden
crooner;197570 Wrote: > Well... get a portable AM radio and place it close to the SB's Unifive > SMPS. Reception will be impossible. What does putting a radio next to the power supply have to do with the sound produced by an SB3? Put your preamp next to the transformer of your power amp and it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread Max F
For what its worth, I've got switching supplies all throughout my house including one that near for my little XM radio player (myfi). None of them put out anyway near as much RF noise as this SB3 switching PS. Listening to AM is impossible. The internal PS in the SB3 are also noisy but not near

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-25 Thread inguz
what do you see in the log.txt file? -- inguz inguz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29489 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Andyoz;197592 Wrote: > Well, you do drive an Audi TT !! Well...that says it all really: 1) Audi - good but not great 2) TT - Oh dear So you have paid over the odds (unless you bought used) welcome to he world of audiophilia :0) -- Phil Leigh ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread Phil Leigh
crooner;197570 Wrote: > Well... get a portable AM radio and place it close to the SB's Unifive > SMPS. Reception will be impossible. > > The FCC rules part 15C is very relaxed about RFI interference, > unfortunately. This is the same FCC that also approved broadband over > power lines, blacking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Andyoz
ModelCitizen;197567 Wrote: > Is this another reference to my driving skills? > MC Well, you do drive an Audi TT !! -- Andyoz Andyoz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4864 View this thread: http:/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-25 Thread SuperQ
krochat;197513 Wrote: > FYI, I just got an ad from BSW for B-Stock M-Audio active speakers for > about 1/2 retail price. > > Details at > > http://www.bswusa.com/promo.asp?promo=70 > > I know nothing about the company or the speakers, but thought some of > you might be interested. > > Kim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC - I must be doing something wrong...

2007-04-25 Thread SoftwireEngineer
CFP;197123 Wrote: > I see the new versions of the config still have partitions default to > "2". Should we set it to "0" for best performance/SQ? > > Edit: Answered in the documentation here: > http://inguzaudio.com/usage/config/ Hi CFP, I am happy to see another SB3+Panny owner with a good se

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-25 Thread CFP
Maybe your room is perfect :) -- CFP Squeezebox 3 digital out > Panasonic SA-XR57 > Energy Veritas 2.4i CFP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6915 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread crooner
Well... get a portable AM radio and place it close to the SB's Unifive SMPS. Reception will be impossible. The FCC rules part 15C is very relaxed about RFI interference, unfortunately. This is the same FCC that also approved broadband over power lines, blacking out all the HF spectrum used for ha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
Andyoz;197477 Wrote: > At least it's a Bryston so the guarrantee will last longer than you > will. Is this another reference to my driving skills? MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transpo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good Dac straight to power amp....

2007-04-25 Thread Deaf Cat
dlite;197352 Wrote: > Hi Deathcat, > I sell some gear in australia. > > The Lavry DA10 is very good, and highly recommended. I also had a Wadia > 25 for a while, for the price it is a very good dac/preamp, rate it as > different but equal of Lavry DA10. I expect Wadia overall quality wise > is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread nuhi
ModelCitizen;197545 Wrote: > I can't see any reason to use a pre-amp as the Transporter has one and > received wisdom is that using the built in Transporter stuff should be > better than using yet another device (pre-amp). However, I shall be a > little annoyed if the Transporter does not drive t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread tyler_durden
crooner;197353 Wrote: > Well, the Unifive SMPS has a floating ground for one thing. The tiny > plastic encapsulated design is not grounded to the AC line. Some > parasitic noise is to be expected of this. > > Also, given the small size no actual shielding is employed to reduce > RFI emissions. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread SoftwireEngineer
In my case, the modded Elpac power supply made only a subtle difference. But, I have two power conditioners daisy chained with good power cords (Furman Power Factor Pro -> Blue Circle Music Ring Balanced Power conditioner). Once, I got the Bolder digital mods the difference was clearly audible. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
ModelCitizen;197547 Wrote: > I can't imagine that will be too interesting. It's probably one > (underemployed) guy and a bench. > MC I don't know, the company is obviously enthusiastic about their product. Whether they welcome interested people in is another matter though. I've been on lots of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
Mark Lanctot;197543 Wrote: > I wonder if they allow factory tours. I've been in town twice on > business. I can't imagine that will be too interesting. It's probably one (underemployed) guy and a bench. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
ModelCitizen;197470 Wrote: > I'm talking to Andy Wilson at Bryston and sending it back (to Luton). So they have local service facilities? I wonder if they allow factory tours. I've been in town twice on business. -- Mark Lanctot --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
Robin Bowes;197541 Wrote: > How many trees did you hit on the way??? :) > R. The trees were all very stationary that night. :-) MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter > Bryston 4B S

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Robin Bowes
ModelCitizen wrote: > The Bryston's appear to be built like brick out houses. They are > incredibly solid and heavy. The damage could have been caused whilst I > was driving from Pease Pottage to Barcombe but as the amp was in it's > box in the boot of my TT and I did not drive across fields I doub

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread nuhi
ModelCitizen;197532 Wrote: > > nuhli... do I understand you correctly?... do you run a Bryston 4B ST > (or SST) into OB1s with a Transporter? If so, can you get the volume > extremely loud indeed? > > I want extreme volume. Yes you did, can you imagine that, completely the same except that I u

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
The Bryston's appear to be built like brick out houses. They are incredibly solid and heavy. The damage could have been caused whilst I was driving from Pease Pottage to Barcombe but as the amp was in it's box in the boot of my TT and I did not drive across fields I doubt it. I really do think it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-25 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Hi, I installed the Inguz plugin and followed all the instructions. But somehow, I feel the EQ is not making an effect at all. What could be the reason ? (I have checked the file types/decoders etc). -- SoftwireEngineer S

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-25 Thread krochat
FYI, I just got an ad from BSW for B-Stock M-Audio active speakers for about 1/2 retail price. Details at http://www.bswusa.com/promo.asp?promo=70 I know nothing about the company or the speakers, but thought some of you might be interested. Kim -- krochat -- SB3 (+linear) -> Big Ben

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Andyoz
haha...AWOL is a bit of a strong term come to think of it. I think Bryston are the best. I even read a story of someone with a really old Bryston that was purcahsed when they 'only' offered a 5 year guarrantee. When they announced the 20 year guarrantee policy, they applied it retrospecively to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread nuhi
Andyoz;197486 Wrote: > I didn't say there was anything wrong with Bryston...probably why I OWN > ONE! :) ok pardon my English, searched on the net for the AWOL explanation. It's just I'm kinda jumpy because I don't want that my thread provokes some bad vibe on any of these products, this is all

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Andyoz
nuhi;197483 Wrote: > Andyoz, there is nothing wrong with Bryston, his model is the older one, > it could have gotten damaged during transport. I didn't say there was anything wrong with Bryston...probably why I OWN ONE! -- Andyoz ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread nuhi
ModelCitizen;197470 Wrote: > > nuhi... I have not had this set up before. This was the very first time > I plugged the Transporter into the Bryston. I only got the Bryston last > night. Prior to this I'd seen/heard it working driving the rear > speakers of an incredibly ott system. Aaa true I w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Andyoz
Oh bugger, so the Bryston has gone AWOL. Maybe it had a hard time in transit. I really can't believe you're luck after all the time you spent looking for one!! At least it's a Bryston so the guarrantee will last longer than you will. How have Bryston been to deal with? -- Andyoz ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My 2 mods for coax digi out...

2007-04-25 Thread jonte0
jitter spectrum: http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/906SB3fig9.jpg article ... http://www.stereophile.com/computeraudio/906slim/index3.html / -- jonte0 jonte0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread mswlogo
opaqueice;197440 Wrote: > Evidence... wouldn't that be nice! > > One thing I'd like to see is one single controlled listening test > showing an audible difference from changing the power supply. So far, > we have two camps - people that don't hear any difference, and people > that say the diff

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Andyoz
Oh bugger, so the Bryston has gone AWOL. Maybe it have had a hard time in transit. I really can't believe you're luck after all the time you spent looking for one!! At least it's a Bryston so the guarrantee will last longer than you will. How have Bryston been to deal with? -- Andyoz --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
I'm talking to Andy Wilson at Bryston and sending it back (to Luton). The things is over 20 kilos though! I think I must just have been unlucky. The Transporter in NAIM power amp worked fine for ages. I think the Bryston blowing 5 seconds after I plugged the Transporter into it must just be a pur

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My 2 mods for coax digi out...

2007-04-25 Thread opaqueice
AndyC_772;197449 Wrote: > It's always safe to apply formulae from transmission line theory to what > is, undeniably, a transmission line. If it turns out to be a very short > one, and therefore the effects of an impedance mismatch are very small, > then that'll drop out of the equations. Changin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tried the Mac Mini directly to the DAC

2007-04-25 Thread bommai
As far as I know, the G4 mini does not have an optical output. Only the intel ones do. -- bommai bommai's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread crooner
I recently purchased a used EAD DSP-7000 III DAC. This retailed for $2500 in the late 1990s. Like the newer Benchmark, it claims to reduce or eliminate jitter by a propietary circuit called "digital flywheel". It also decodes HDCD, which most current DACs lack. The output stage is Class A using h

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My 2 mods for coax digi out...

2007-04-25 Thread AndyC_772
It's always safe to apply formulae from transmission line theory to what is, undeniably, a transmission line. If it turns out to be a very short one, and therefore the effects of an impedance mismatch are very small, then that'll drop out of the equations. A 1 metre interconnect is NOT short, tho

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My 2 mods for coax digi out...

2007-04-25 Thread mswlogo
opaqueice;197445 Wrote: > Why do you say so? > > What I was taught, and I think this is standard, was that only when the > length of a cable was of order or longer than the wavelength of the > signal did it need to be treated as a transmission line. Of all audio > cables digital interconnects a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My 2 mods for coax digi out...

2007-04-25 Thread opaqueice
mswlogo;197339 Wrote: > opaqueice, you seem fairly well versed but this statement is wrong. It > most certainly *IS* a transmission line. And of course you can have > ringing. I don't know how much this particular mod really helps. But in > theory it most certain could help. Why do you say so?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread opaqueice
mswlogo;197423 Wrote: > Thanks for that info. I will do mods, but I don't want to do them just > for the sake of it or just because they are cheap. I'd like a little > bit of evidence. Evidence... wouldn't that be nice! One thing I'd like to see is one single controlled listening test showing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality streaming music...

2007-04-25 Thread jt25741
slimkid;197348 Wrote: > Just go to WinAmp's media library, look at shoutcasts. There are quite a > few with 256 kbps There are scores of high bit-rate channels all over the place -- I have many as URLs in my slim favorites. The original thread/topic here was about music services like rhapsody,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread mswlogo
cliveb;197367 Wrote: > OK, you sound like someone who's not interested in doing any mods if > they don't make an audible improvement. So before you expend a great > deal of effort to reduce the jitter of the SB3's digital output, you > need to verify that whatever levels of jitter are already pre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread nuhi
ModelCitizen;197402 Wrote: > One channel dead and the other very reduced volume. > Quite a big problem. :-( > MC If you weren't driving the amp into clipping and what not then simply take it on the warranty for the repair. And while you're at it ask them why did it die and let us know so that ot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread Skunk
ModelCitizen;197402 Wrote: > One channel dead and the other very reduced volume. > Quite a big problem. :-( > MC Have you tried/could you try a cd player or other source going into the Bryston, to make sure it works as expected? Was the amp working properly in another setup before trying it wi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:BEST classical music review site

2007-04-25 Thread bukharin
I really like Classical Digest: http://www.classicaldigest.com/ In particular, click on "Compositions" (at the top left), and go from there. This gives you access to multiple reviews on any given recording - extremely handy. Of course, you need to know what piece of music you're after, which is w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
One channel dead and the other very reduced volume. Quite a big problem. :-( MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter > Bryston 4B ST > PMC OB1s SB3 > NAIM NAC 102 > NAIM NAP 180 > Sha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread nuhi
Well it worked fine for me if you don't count that heating up which was from the amp in the first place. What's the problem? -- nuhi nuhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10571 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-25 Thread ModelCitizen
Is anyone using a Tranporter directly into a Bryston 4B ST or SST successfully via unbalanced outputs? My 4B ST appears to have developed a problem just after connecting the Transporter and ramping the volume up. :-( MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread AndyC_772
jhm731;197354 Wrote: > FYI3- power supply noise is the biggest cause of jitter in digital > circuits. WTF?! What gave you that idea? What about transmission line effects, crosstalk, ground bounce, PLL instability or data-dependency? I'll grant that PSU noise is a factor, but to state that it's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-25 Thread cliveb
mswlogo;197289 Wrote: > After seeing Sean Adams post that power supply (on his setup anyway) > made no difference in jitter. And the fact that all that matters is > jitter, since the SqueezeBox as far as I tested is bitperfect. > > I don't want to bother doing mods that are based on just folks o