Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the cover of HiFiCritic

2007-07-25 Thread JJZolx
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea for high-end Squeezebox/Transporter accessory

2007-07-25 Thread nuhi
You can simply look at your CD cases, decide what to play and find it alphabetically very fast on the player. I too have lost the touch with the collection and I'm using the Random Mix - Songs to find what to listen by hearing it. It is like looking at the pile of CDs and having a perfect memory

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
drewe181;216983 Wrote: i find it best when i watch a movie or listen to music myself as i can have it as loud as i want with no distractions other than one's i've made myself. i hate watching dvd's with others as i'm not always seated in the best position. that, and the fact that my wife

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread drewe181
Phil Leigh;216984 Wrote: 1) As host you should be able to demand the best set in the house - they are your seats after all 2) upgrade wife to wife 2.1 (or have her modded) with mute option 3) Only buy movies that no-one else wants to watch... :o) 1)i will still have people between me and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread darrenyeats
I bought my PMC AB-1s from a recording studio about 10 years ago, and they were in use for some considerable time before that. I can say that the PMCs have provided good service, they are pretty bullet-proof. They can go very loud with low distortion and have good detail and imaging and extended

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea for high-end Squeezebox/Transporter accessory

2007-07-25 Thread Siriosys
I like the idea. There are a number of software companies out there that already have 'bar code' functionality built into their CD Database apps so it would be a natural extension of this technology. But the main reason I like the idea of a bar code scanner - I'm partially blind and find it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread drewe181
i find it best when i watch a movie or listen to music myself as i can have it as loud as i want with no distractions other than one's i've made myself. i hate watching dvd's with others as i'm not always seated in the best position. that, and the fact that my wife doesn't shut up when watching a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the cover of HiFiCritic

2007-07-25 Thread agentsmith
I guess this is a new magazine. I wonder if they are available to be purchased and downloaded electronically. -- agentsmith SB2, Pioneer DV-S733A, Benchmark DAC1, Naim Nait 5i, Naim Ariva Speakers. Playstation 3 for Blu-Ray, Panasonic 43 Plasma, Harmony 880. Storage via Buffalo 250GB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the cover of HiFiCritic

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Webster
From http://www.hificritic.com it is a subscription only magazine - with no adverts. You can subscribe here http://www.hificritic.com/subscribe/order.aspx The Transporter issue - is their 4th. -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://www.lastfm.com/user/BondJamesBond

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC?

2007-07-25 Thread L . B .
ezkcdude;74669 Wrote: I just learned about the new DAC from Channel Islands, VDA-2, replacing the VDA-1. Has anyone tried this new DAC, yet? At $600, it seems like it may be a better value than the venerable Benchmark DAC-1, which I know so many people here love. I am also looking for a new

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea for high-end Squeezebox/Transporter accessory

2007-07-25 Thread azinck3
I seem to recall that someone made a plugin for this exact thing a while back. I'll see if I can find it... -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread cliveb
darrenyeats;216989 Wrote: PS: BTW cliveb's approach with an active speaker is one I am interested in, for no other reason than it gets me off the upgrade bandwagon. I would hope that any concerns about amplifier vibration are engineered out, and that the amps are superbly matched to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea for high-end Squeezebox/Transporter accessory

2007-07-25 Thread egd
crooner;216956 Wrote: One thing I have noticed with my current setup is that it takes some memorizing of my collection to decide what to play. Unless I have the laptop on to browse artwork, I no longer have a visual aid to decide what to listen. With a large collection, it starts to get

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread Videodrome
drewe181;216983 Wrote: i find it best when i watch a movie or listen to music myself as i can have it as loud as i want with no distractions other than one's i've made myself. i hate watching dvd's with others as i'm not always seated in the best position. that, and the fact that my wife

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread egd
Videodrome;217003 Wrote: she has the uncanny ability to do this right in the middle of the most dramatic scenes. I think its genetic :P (apologies in advance). -- egd http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html? http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/shopbycable/1800F.htm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New User - Please help with 96K playback

2007-07-25 Thread Videodrome
DCtoDaylight;216936 Wrote: The attraction of 96K Sampling (not up sampling) over 44.1K sampling, is that it moves the brick wall filter from 22.05 kHz to 48 kHz. This can have audible benefits, because the 22kHz filter usually has measurable affects in the audible pass band. Move the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread mudlark
Hi folks, Studio monitors are highly accurate machines which tend to be used in the near field. Their bass response is often not what most consumers want. my understanding is that in the hands of experienced audio engineers they can be used to set the balance of a recording. As for filling a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread opaqueice
JohnSwenson;216848 Wrote: This is an interesting case. They use a high frequency clock (I think its something like 110MHz) to reclock the data going to the DAC. This DOES make the system almost immune to jitter on the input, but DOES effectively create jitter on the output. The clock might

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread simbo
egd;216891 Wrote: This should be a pretty easy to deal with using either a network enabled DVD player or a purpose built PVR type PC. If you Google the topic I'm sure you will find many howto's on this topic. Storing DVDs on a NAS would be child's play, albeit strictly speaking illegal in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
mudlark;217016 Wrote: Hi folks, Studio monitors are highly accurate machines which tend to be used in the near field. Their bass response is often not what most consumers want. my understanding is that in the hands of experienced audio engineers they can be used to set the balance of a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread opaqueice
mudlark;217016 Wrote: Studio monitors are highly accurate machines which tend to be used in the near field. Their bass response is often not what most consumers want. Are you sure it's not simply that the frequency response of pro monitors is reported accurately, contrary to the usual

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: Bit of a sweeping generalisation there, Mudlark old chap... Yes, I have not found Mudlark's complaints, my Mackie's sound great, they are just ugly. and are usually used in conjunction with/as an alternative to large, very powerfull full range monitors (I'm not talking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread mudlark
Phil, I would certainly agree that my post was a generalisation. The point I was trying to make is that consumers listening in rooms that have absorbent decoration and can be quite large are not going to be filled with pleasant sound if you use a small studio monitor type speaker. I am sure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
mudlark;217023 Wrote: Phil, I would certainly agree that my post was a generalisation. The point I was trying to make is that consumers listening in rooms that have absorbent decoration and can be quite large are not going to be filled with pleasant sound if you use a small studio monitor

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread mudlark
I am surprised to hear that studios and mixing rooms go to the effort of using a listening room that even slightly behaves like a consumer living room. I consider my self to be admonished. It is obvious that some music is produced in studios that like to over-emphasise bass levels and even the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread haunyack
This thead is most enjoyable. My 11 year old Burmese will sit in MY sweetspot and listen (and actually sing along) to certain music tracks I play. His favorite is anything by Baka Beyond. ps...don't tell him I said so, but the poor boy is tone deaf. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] how to incorporate a sub in a SB system?

2007-07-25 Thread haunyack
My Infinity sub uses the analog outs from my Transporter and it works great. One advantage is that the sub has level control and a R.A.B.O.S. - (Room Adaptive Bass Optimization System). . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread haunyack
This thead is most enjoyable. My 11 year old Burmese will sit in MY sweetspot and listen (and actually sing along) to certain music tracks I play. His favorite is anything by Baka Beyond. ps...don't tell him I said so, but the poor boy is tone deaf. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: The listening end of a control room or mastering suite is usually more dead than alive - and more similar to a home environment than a lot of people think. Bear in mind that the music being assessed via the monitors is intended to be replayed in homes, not studios... Nit,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
mudlark;217032 Wrote: I am surprised to hear that studios and mixing rooms go to the effort of using a listening room that even slightly behaves like a consumer living room. I consider my self to be admonished. It is obvious that some music is produced in studios that like to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Not that wikipedia is the ultimate source, but I found this citation relevant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_monitor There are a number of reasons for this: * Domestic speakers are generally less rugged and unable to cope with the often extreme conditions encountered in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to use the world clock input on the Transporter?

2007-07-25 Thread anselld
Jaco;216293 Wrote: OK, I did some more research on this issue. It seems that there are two different standards for providing an external clock signal to digital sources. 1. An input running at the sampling frequency, e.g. 44.1kHz or 96kHz (called Wordclock) 2. An input running at the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
seanadams;216851 Wrote: Here, I tested it for you! :) http://www.seanadams.com/jitter_fiber_test/ Sean - you are (still) my hero and you saved me $70! Atthis rate I can afford my own pony soon. So this test (which must go down in the annals of audio history by the way) proves one of two

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Pat - I'd generally agree, except my take on this is that studio monitors tend to be more accurately revealing at the top endtending towards ruthless. This in turn leads to one of two effects: This ruthlessness causes the top end to be tamed by the listener during mixing/mastering thus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread cliveb
Phil Leigh;217027 Wrote: Anyway, we weren't necessarily talking about small nearfields... ATC's won't look (or sound)good perched on a desk... Just to clear up any possible confusion, ATC make speakers in a wide range of sizes. The clue is in the model number, which indicates the internal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: Pat - I'd generally agree, except my take on this is that studio monitors tend to be more accurately revealing at the top endtending towards ruthless. Some more so than others. One man's accuracy is another's ruthless. Nearly all studio nearfields have a fair number of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea for high-end Squeezebox/Transporter accessory

2007-07-25 Thread jdbaker
To get around this I right clicked and selected open link in new tab (in Firefox) whilst hovering the mouse over the slimserver Albums link. A browser window opens and lists a series of album covers and album names. I printed this to PDF and then printed the PDFs on a color printer. I now have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread mudlark
bye gum I'm really enjoying this -- mudlark SB3CyrusDACXPreXvs260AKEFiQ7 cable Avondale server Kubuntu Feisty Fawn, linkstation for storage. DIY SB3 3A linear power supply. mudlark's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to use the world clock input on the Transporter?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Usually in a discrete Master Clock setup you have to tell the wordclock (manually) what to run at... given that the DAC clock in your case is going to control the TP, I don't see how the switching could be auto since the TP is going to send only at the rate dictated by the DAC. If it was the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Pat Farrell;217043 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: The listening end of a control room or mastering suite is usually more dead than alive - and more similar to a home environment than a lot of people think. Bear in mind that the music being assessed via the monitors is intended to be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread seanadams
Phil Leigh;217046 Wrote: Sean - you are (still) my hero and you saved me $70! Atthis rate I can afford my own pony soon. So this test (which must go down in the annals of audio history by the way) proves one of two things: A) toslink is so bad to start with that only really violent

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
mudlark;217056 Wrote: bye gum I'm really enjoying this. Phil, I am sure good mixers etc can produce good recordings in difficult circumstances, I was complaining about mixes that are produced for car stereos or boom boxes. Ie that are deliberately messed about with. I am sure that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: Nit? are you calling me a fool? :o) (been called worse!) Actually a nit is a tiny egg. And my comments was about a tiny thing A nit-wit is a dummy. I was saying that the control room would tend to be pretty dead and flat (but not anechoic) rather than live. There was a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
seanadams;217060 Wrote: I'd say they're both true depending on what you want to use it for. If you believe that jitter below 1ns is not audible, or you just aren't concerned about it, then there's nothing wrong with toslink. No I only spent a couple minutes hooking up each test case

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Have you tried Studio Monitors (Pro Audio gear...) at home?

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Pat Farrell;217067 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: Nit? are you calling me a fool? :o) (been called worse!) Actually a nit is a tiny egg. And my comments was about a tiny thing A nit-wit is a dummy. I was saying that the control room would tend to be pretty dead and flat (but not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Jaco
My believe is that all these different approaches of slaving the DAC to the clock of the digital source, or by using PLL's or re-clocking/re-sampling are fundamentally flawed. It is the DAC that should be the clock master and not the source. That immediately solves most of the jitter issues if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Patrick Dixon
Phil Leigh;217066 Wrote: I just don't think jitter lends itself to a measurement-audible quality correlation in the same way as (say) THD or IMD. In many ways there are similarities between jitter and distortion measurements, as they are all commonly expressed as 'a number', although the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread seanadams
tot;217074 Wrote: 20kHz is 50ns for full cycle, or 25ns for half cycle. Some parts of the body are clearly quite fast reacting. Teemu Close - you're only off by a factor of a thousand. :) milli = 10^-3 micro = 10^-6 nano = 10^-9 pico = 10^-12 At any rate, the ear doesn't work like

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB setup great but I lost my CD player MoJo.

2007-07-25 Thread Jitterbug
zanash;216739 Wrote: Not many suggestions for a cheap dac to rival the shek ... Anyone know if the Shek can handle pCM? -- Jitterbug Jitterbug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4955 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea for high-end Squeezebox/Transporter accessory

2007-07-25 Thread egd
jdbaker;217054 Wrote: This is exactly what I would like to do, when I open the browser window all I see are the album names, how do I access the album art. I use iTunes w/lossless files and have art for most of my albums but it does not show up in Slimserver. You will need to configure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread tot
seanadams;217098 Wrote: Close - you're only off by a factor of a thousand. :) I had a gut feeling something was terribly wrong, but went ahead regardless .. :-) -- tot tot's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB setup great but I lost my CD player MoJo.

2007-07-25 Thread adamslim
I bought the Shek (d2) and I think it's much better than the stock SB3 - but still not good enough. I now have an SB+, which is. If you want to continue on the budget route, I hear lots of good things about the Beresford DAC, but have not heard one myself. I suspect, caveat auditor, that you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 as transport

2007-07-25 Thread stevo
It would be nice to compare the Bel Canto with the Transporter DAC! stevo -- stevo stevo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6250 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 as transport

2007-07-25 Thread sonofcolin
You have the same system as I do (except the speakers). I would try (if you haven't already) using the balanced outputs on the transporter straight into the Ref1000's and using the digital volume control on the Transporter. No need for the DAC3 in this situation. I use a Bolder Cables modified

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Jaco;217078 Wrote: My believe is that all these different approaches of slaving the DAC to the clock of the digital source, or by using PLL's or re-clocking/re-sampling are fundamentally flawed. It is the DAC that should be the clock master and not the source. That immediately solves most

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New User - Please help with 96K playback

2007-07-25 Thread DCtoDaylight
Videodrome;217008 Wrote: I thought there is one key difference in that upsampling is done completely in the digital domain upstream from the DAC (as is the case with my Behringer SRC2496). Sorry no, both upsampling and oversampling are done completely in the digital domain. Where exactly

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 as transport

2007-07-25 Thread hughdub
I have an SB3, and I've just bought a Bel Canto DAC3. Question is: is it worth buying the Transporter to replace the SB3 as a transport? Or is the money better off being spent elsewhere? I'm running the following: SB3Bel Canto DAC3 Bel Canto REF1000s BW 803Ds -- hughdub

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Patrick Dixon;217100 Wrote: In many ways there are similarities between jitter and distortion measurements, as they are all commonly expressed as 'a number', although the spectral content behind the headline number is probably just as important. Patrick - that's what I meant in my inelegant

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread tot
Phil Leigh;217066 Wrote: When we get down to nanoseconds my brain starts to hurt because isn't the interval limit of what a human can discern in the single-digit milliseconds? I can't even imagine what a nanosecond is. I know people go on about 20pS of jitter - and I know you've often

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC?

2007-07-25 Thread zanash
a modded behringer src2496 will easily out perform both the xdacv3,and the dac1I've had my src up against both. the dac 1 owner sold his unit to get an src [modded by me] and pocketed the remaining £500 ! The xdacv3 in standard form is rather nasal and shut in ...but once modded can sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Phil Leigh
tot;217074 Wrote: 20kHz is 50ns for full cycle, or 25ns for half cycle. Some parts of the body are clearly quite fast reacting. Teemu When I was 18 I applied for a job at the BBC. They did a hearing test. I was 3dB down at 17Khz. (I got the job) I'm probably about 6dB down at 15Khz these

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Really controversial idea...

2007-07-25 Thread Jaco
Thanks for your reply Phil. Yes, I'm also interested in hearing what different amounts of jitter sound like. That could be an intersting experiment. A good friend of mine is a recording engineer and we've experimented quite a lot with the good sounding harmonic distortion of valve pre-amps.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezeboxing Alone?

2007-07-25 Thread Videodrome
Phil Leigh;216865 Wrote: Totally agree - which is why I really want an SB-like solution for my 600 DVD's... It's a bit dated, but here's a link on setting up a DVD server: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/archives/000546.php -- Videodrome Two-channel System: SB3, into Musiland MD-10 DAC;