Phil,
Thanks for that. I might see if I can demo a DAC (with optical
connection) at home.
Am I right to think the X-DAC v3 uses a power supply, rather than an
IEC?
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Phil Leigh;246777 Wrote:
The SB certainly goes down as deep as any CD player as far as bass
extension goes.
I definitely don't agree with this. However flat the SB3 measures, it
sounds bass light on real music to me.
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Patrick Dixon
www.at-tunes.co.uk
I think you should consider the Transporter or SB+ rather than spending
fairly large sums on external DACs and PSUs. IMV, you are quite likely
to end up spending a grand, without actually achieving what's possible
for that amount of money.
I've heard the SB+ against a fairly inexpensive Creek
Patrick Dixon;246853 Wrote:
I definitely don't agree with this. However flat the SB3 measures, it
sounds bass light on real music to me.
The biggest factors in bass response are the speaker response and
room-modes. It doesn't make sense to try to correct these by using a
source with a
darrenyeats;246867 Wrote:
The biggest factors in bass response are the speaker response and
room-modes. It doesn't make sense to try to correct these by using a
source with a different bass response. What we want is sources which
are accurate, including a flat FR, and then we can deal with
Patrick Dixon;246868 Wrote:
Music is a combination of many frequencies all occurring at the same
time, whereas a frequency sweep just does one frequency at a time.
Hence you can have equipment that measures flat with a frequency sweep,
but actually isn't with real music.
Isn't it strange
Patrick Dixon;246878 Wrote:
But measuring equipment using single frequencies, doesn't actually
measure the frequency response as it applies to music. A (bandlimited
if you like) impulse response would be more appropriate.
There you go again - more nonsense. For a linear system the
One reason I have both foramts is to use the m4a files on my ipod. But
I do not really care whether I use the FLAC or iTunes library for
Slim.
I was running into challenges trying to set the music directory up
without using iTunes. I am not a Mac guy by definition, but wanted to
start playing
opaqueice;246876 Wrote:
In fact, as most of us learned in high school, any sound can be
decomposed into a sum of pure tones, which add *linearly*, period, end
of story. Hmm, I think that's what I said ...
opaqueice;246876 Wrote:
If the frequency response of an amp and speakers is flat,
opaqueice wrote:
Patrick Dixon;246878 Wrote:
But measuring equipment using single frequencies, doesn't actually
measure the frequency response as it applies to music. A (bandlimited
if you like) impulse response would be more appropriate.
There you go again - more nonsense. For a linear
Robin Bowes;246890 Wrote:
But real world systems are not linear, and an under-powered PSU can
often cause problems at low-frequencies. Which is all Patrick said.
That doesn't sound anything at all like what Patrick said. But since
it's actually concrete, let's address it.
So you think
Patrick Dixon;246852 Wrote:
I think you should consider the Transporter or SB+ rather than spending
fairly large sums on external DACs and PSUs. IMV, you are quite likely
to end up spending a grand, without actually achieving what's possible
for that amount of money.
I've heard the SB+
chobbney;246892 Wrote:
What's an SB+?
It's a rather expensive mod for the SB3 done and sold by... you
guessed it, Patrick Dixon.
So when you read comments like this, you can be absolutely certain
they're unbiased:
Patrick Dixon;246852 Wrote:
I think you should consider the Transporter or
amcluesent;246671 Wrote:
In the Squeezecentre (sic) nightly, the TP firmware is now version 33.
I flashed my TP (but still with slimserver 6.x).
How do you do that on the TP?
For the SB I used the mike galusha's squeezebox firmware selector tool,
is there something similar available for
Skunk;246678 Wrote:
In the meantime, I'd surmise that the visual stimulation of a new
interface is what led to the perceived improvement in sound. The
re-naming may have been a factor as well, although people in the UK
would probably notice a _decrease_ in SQ due to the misspelling.
Skunk,
pfarrell;246629 Wrote:
And they are nearly all guys. Look at the ads, they have beautiful
women who will love you once you buy this thing, that wire, or some
other amp.
Are you talking about beer ads?
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If Apple lossless is chosen for a Mac, should one or more stream formats
be deselected for optimal playback fidelity?
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Patrick Dixon;246853 Wrote:
I definitely don't agree with this. However flat the SB3 measures, it
sounds bass light on real music to me.
Patrick - you've rather lost me there...if it measures flat...then it
is flat - surely?
Phil
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it
Some of the above posts are classic myth creation.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, how does the SB output a reduced bass
response when used in my context. I use the SB into an external dac via
the optical connector?
Mike.
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mudlark
SB3CyrusDACXPreXvsNAP140+260AKEFiQ7, Avondale and Naim
seemed to run into an issue with 24/96 files, either m4a
My experience (with Windows) is 24/96 AAC caused the server-side
transcoder to crash out.
The (long)workaround was to use Quicktime Pro to export the files as
24/96 WAV, then lossless compress to 24/96 FLAC. These were fine on the
Quite.
Mike.
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mudlark
SB3CyrusDACXPreXvsNAP140+260AKEFiQ7, Avondale and Naim cable,
Kubuntu Gusty Gibbon server, linkstation for storage.
DIY SB3 3A linear power supply.
Using SqueezeCentre7
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I just checked with engineering and AFAWK there's nothing in the latest
firmware that would have effected the sound.
The update was mainly to improve syncing between players.
Cheers,
Mike
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mvalera
Michael Valera
Online Communities Manager
Logitech Streaming Media Systems
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I have no issues with 24/96 FLAC, that I am creating through Audacity
from 24/96 AIFF files. The issue I am having is when I use iTunes none
of my hogher res files play, irrelevant of whether they are AIFF or
m4a...
As an aside, I managed to get the music folder to recognoze the nas
volume
Urrgghhh. Must...hold...myself back...
I give up (the thread title bugged me too much to begin with). It's
affect not effect.
Darren
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darrenyeats
SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1
Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system
mvalera;246929 Wrote:
I just checked with engineering and AFAWK there's nothing in the latest
firmware that would have affected the sound.
The update was mainly to improve syncing between players.
Huh - how odd. There must be SOME explanation for the improved sound
quality heard by so
Do you have your mini set to output 24/96?
If not, go to: Applications - Utilities - Audio MIDI Setup
and you'll find the settings for the digital output.
rhodyavphile;246820 Wrote:
I have recently purchased a Mac Mini to serve as my slim server and have
seemed to run into an issue with
opaqueice;246970 Wrote:
Huh - how odd. There must be SOME explanation for the improved sound
quality heard by so many.
It's AudioCircle. You'll never in your life see a bigger bunch of
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Lol, I'm glad I always keep a flotation device with me.
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Mine sounded better when I got the spelling to how it should be.
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Phil Leigh;246921 Wrote:
Aren't there published revision notes for the firmware? (or is that a
secret?)
Phil, I tried looking around but could not find anything like that. I
may have missed it, though.
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tonyptony
JJZolx;246972 Wrote:
It's AudioCircle. You'll never in your life see a bigger bunch of
That doesn't look right at all - there's one with a flotation device!
If you think audio circle is bad, check out audio asylum some day...
it's aptly named.
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opaqueice
opaqueice;247024 Wrote:
That doesn't look right at all - there's one with a flotation device!
If you think audio circle is bad, check out audio asylum some day...
it's aptly named.
The regulars at Audio Asylum are heads and shoulders above those at
AudioCircle. AC is comprised of far too
JJZolx;247025 Wrote:
...who also don't mind telling the ABX idiots and objectivists to go
take a flying leap.
Thank you.
.
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haunyack
Transporter - BK R200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. (Listening room)
SB3 (RWA analog) - Rotel RB1070 - BW Matrix 805. (Bedroom)
Fridgidare - Mirror Pond
I don't think I have audiophile ears, but I'm able to distinguish $2-3k
amps or speakers from $500-$1k ones. So when audiophiles say there is a
huge difference, I assume ok, there may be a slightly audible
difference. :)
I recently got a Zhaolu D3, and tried A-B comparison with the internal
DAC
smarco wrote:
I don't think I have audiophile ears, but I'm able to distinguish $2-3k
amps or speakers from $500-$1k ones. So when audiophiles say there is a
huge difference, I assume ok, there may be a slightly audible
difference. :)
Give that man a cigar.
Zhaolu seems to provide slightly
JJZolx;247025 Wrote:
I have no problem with real audiophiles, but they're a dying breed.
True - they're mostly well into their retirements.
People who love the hobby, can actually hear subtle differences and
don't mind telling you so, and who also don't mind telling the ABX
idiots and
Just got my rack setup complete about two weeks ago. Here is what I'm
planning:
Transporter - Crestron CNX-PAD8a - AudioControl Avalon - Gallo
Reference 3.1 with SubAmp
I'm not sure if the PAD8a will introduce and sound issues, but it is
there so I can also send the signal to other zones around
TP - NHT Xd 2.2
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Thanks -- they look very interesting. A little more powerful than
perhaps I need and a little more expensive than I had hoped, but
definitely one to go on the audition list. They even have a 30-day
return policy.
muski
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SB3-Bryston BP25DA-Bryston 4B SST-Wilson Watt Puppy 7
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