Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What DAC to use?

2008-09-09 Thread GreenMan
Is there any diff between the DAC on the SB2 and the SB3? I've got an SB2. -- GreenMan My computer - SB2- Krell KAV-300i - pair of Thiel CS2 - my ears - my brain GreenMan's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread sikahr
I didn't read this whole thread, but I want to say: Please don't draw any conclusions about mp3 quality based on experience with slimdevices because slimdevices mp3 decoder have flaws/limitations ( http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 ). cheers, Nenad -- sikahr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
opaqueice;338305 Wrote: There are lots of potential problems: high pressure sales tactics, false advertising, bait and switch, etc. etc. Many common practices in cables selling at least verge on some of those. Whether they actually cross the line is not for me to decide, but as I said I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
You have to be kidding here, right? This is something you actually hear and interferes with you music enjoyment? Yeah and I've been called a troll. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
sikahr;338342 Wrote: I didn't read this whole thread, but I want to say: Please don't draw any conclusions about mp3 quality based on experience with slimdevices because slimdevices mp3 decoder have flaws/limitations ( http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 ). cheers, Nenad

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital loop with FW 62

2008-09-09 Thread Teus de Jong
Go to Setting = tab page Player and choose Audio from the drop down menu. There you will find the relevant options (Effects loop input and Effects loop clock mode). Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Suggestions for improving sound from SqueezeBox Duet

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
ralphpnj;335755 Wrote: I'm guessing that the old Sony Shelf system is more likely from the 1980's since back then phono inputs where still quite common. I had and still have a very nice Sony mini-system from around the same era but I don't remember if it has a phono input. I also think that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Suggestions for improving sound from SqueezeBox Duet

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
rksingla;335463 Wrote: I spent two days trying everything i could think of, and you all solved my problem in like two minutes. I had been using the Phono input not knowing that the amp treated that differently from othere input. I switched to the Video input and it now sounds great. So it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread sikahr
Beleive what You want to belive. On my side, I can hear on my headphones SB generated noise on quiet parts when listening mp3 on SB. When using transcoding that noise is gone. That noise is maybe -60 dB. cheers, Nenad -- sikahr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
sikahr;338379 Wrote: Beleive what You want to belive. On my side, I can hear on my headphones SB generated noise on quiet parts when listening mp3 on SB. When using transcoding that noise is gone. That noise is about -60 dB. cheers, NenadWas anything I said not true? The thread

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital loop with FW 62

2008-09-09 Thread Holland
Strange, I only have the volume and crossfade submenu in Audio.. Are you sure the setting must be there? -- Holland Holland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19849 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Suggestions for improving sound from SqueezeBox Duet

2008-09-09 Thread EnochLight
Nonreality;338375 Wrote: This for a shelf system. Yeah that is the first thing you do. Get rid of everything you have not knowing what rate that is was ripped at or if he even has the albums. It's got to be those damn mp3's doesn't it. Tell me Ralph, why didn't get your hackles up about

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Suggestions for improving sound from SqueezeBox Duet

2008-09-09 Thread grrman
swhite58;335500 Wrote: Regarding your second question about pwered speakers, a lot of people on this forum recommend the Audioengine 5 http://www.audioengineusa.com/ I can't comment as I haven't heard them. I can't find anyone in this city who stocks them. Shane Second on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital loop with FW 62

2008-09-09 Thread Teus de Jong
Yup. Here all the options are on that page. If you have any other device (e.g. another SB3 or SBR), make sure the transporter is chosen in the left drop down. The digital loop options are obviously only shown for the transporter. Teus -- Teus de Jong

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-09 Thread opaqueice
Nonreality;338354 Wrote: I thought we were talking about cables not cars? ;) Amazing, isn't it? I suspect it's because cables are among the highest margin items they sell. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-09 Thread iPhone
opaqueice;338448 Wrote: Amazing, isn't it? I suspect it's because cables are among the highest margin items they sell. Don't you mean Peddle? -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
Sikhar, NonReality, Hold on, hold on... as we're on SB forums we can imply that the people in this thread claiming to hear the difference between 320-mp3 and flac are listening on SB in which case things start to make sense to me and the people with those claims might be right after all!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
opaqueice;338303 Wrote: http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=14195 So, based on the above (plus more than a century of scientific data on psychoacoustics and the physics of audio) I think we can very confidently conclude that 16/44 is good enough as a medium for consumers of recorded

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread darrenyeats
DeVerm;338529 Wrote: ain't no stopping it anymore as they will reach critical mass after which it'll become more popular quickly. Not a chance. SACD had it's day already and died, RIP. The industry was pursuing its own interests (trying to introduce a unnecessary DRMed format) and the public

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
I agree with SuperQ that a true-sine, on-line ups is the best solution. DCtoDaylight: that -is- a 1-box, easy to put in, solution. Nonreality: I wouldn't hear it as I live on a boat and almost always have to make my own AC. Right now we are in a marina and we have shore-power. However, we feed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Leigh
(Chortle) thinks quietly of all the digital gear in studios since mid-80's (Eventide, Lexicon etc etc) before the tracks got anywhere near vinyl oops sorry I meant CD... Yes early CD's and players were generally rubbish. Now they are both much better. SACD is basically dead outside a few niche

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Leigh
Well, can these UPS's deliver 3.25 kW of continuous power? I might try one that could... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: SACD is basically dead outside a few niche areas - and by definition this means it is dead as a mainstream format. Why? - because it just wasn't THAT much better than decent modern 16/44.1. And many were not any better because they were just made from DAT masters at 16/48kHz

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-09 Thread Themis
honestguv;338218 Wrote: I am curious about these pseudo-scientists and inaccurate facts. Could you please post an example or two. Are pseudo-scientists loonies that are unrelated to scientists?Sure I can : False fact #1: An amplifier with 0.1% THD @ 1KHz sounds worse or is not as accurate

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Themis
Phil Leigh;338565 Wrote: SACD is basically dead outside a few niche areas - and by definition this means it is dead as a mainstream format. Why? - because it just wasn't THAT much better than decent modern 16/44.1.No, SACD was not better, it was simply much cheaper to the consumer. First

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Leigh
Themis;338578 Wrote: No, SACD was not better, it was simply much cheaper to the consumer. First DVD/SACD combos offered the quality of CD players worth 10 times the price.. But we couldn't stream audio like we do with SB/TP... And thus, online sellers couldn't sell online SACD music. I bet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Leigh
pfarrell;338572 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: SACD is basically dead outside a few niche areas - and by definition this means it is dead as a mainstream format. Why? - because it just wasn't THAT much better than decent modern 16/44.1. And many were not any better because they were just

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
Phil Leigh;338567 Wrote: Well, can these UPS's deliver 3.25 kW of continuous power? I might try one that could... I actually owned a 48 kW version that would just fit into the room... I see many that would fit your requirements on Amazon, just search it for UPS and make sure you look at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Leigh
I have a dual-trace 66 meg scope... I'll have a look on the net. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Themis
Phil Leigh;338581 Wrote: Anyway, forget about SACD - let's enjoy the fact we can now get 24//88.2 downloads - that might be a future to look forward to.That's my philosophy, too. I totally agree. :) -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread sikahr
@DeVerm Transcoding workaround mp3 flc * * [madplay] --output=wave:- --replay-gain=audiophile --attenuate=-0 --very-quiet --bit-depth=24 $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 24 --sample-rate 44100 - Madplay get at

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Signal Ground

2008-09-09 Thread DaveBk
Does anyone know whether the unbalanced RCA connectors on the Transporter have their signal ground directly connected to chassis ground? I use Naim amps wich expect a single 'real' ground connection at the source end. Thanks -- DaveBk DaveBk... Transporter, Naim NAC112/NAP150, Monitor Audio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Signal Ground

2008-09-09 Thread seanadams
All the grounds in the system (input/earth, chassis, PCB) tie together at one point near the power connector. This is standard practice for audio equipment and generally required for compliance with safety and EMI law. I'm not sure what you're saying about the Naim's requirement, but I've heard

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
DeVerm;338540 Wrote: I agree with SuperQ that a true-sine, on-line ups is the best solution. DCtoDaylight: that -is- a 1-box, easy to put in, solution. Nonreality: I wouldn't hear it as I live on a boat and almost always have to make my own AC. Right now we are in a marina and we have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
Themis;338570 Wrote: Sure I can : False fact #1: An amplifier with 0.1% THD @ 1KHz sounds worse or is not as accurate or whatever else than another amplifier which has 0.005% [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both amplifiers having the same S/N ratio and the same frequency response. False fact #2: A

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....

2008-09-09 Thread Nonreality
DeVerm;338529 Wrote: Well, it's mine too! What's your favorite? Me: Bowmore 18yr old, Tallisker and Lagavullin at a good 3rd place. I have 22 different ones, most bought at the actual distilleries in Scotland! cheers mate, Nick.How can you have 22 types on hand? I get up to 2 and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
Nonreality;338652 Wrote: So what do you hear when you get noise from AC. I do run filters but didn't notice any sound difference but my plasma display improved enough to be noticeable. It got rid of the occasional blocks that happen on screen changes. Any sound quality that I may have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
Phil Leigh;338588 Wrote: I have a dual-trace 66 meg scope... I'll have a look on the net. Scan through the timebase-settings so that you get up to at least 10 MHz. It's been at least 10 years since I used a scope... sold mine when we moved aboard ;-( Also, HAM shops will sell RF-blocking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread opaqueice
Nonreality;338652 Wrote: So what do you hear when you get noise from AC. Try bringing an iphone near any powered-on stereo system (or computer speakers, or telephone for that matter). You'll here this annoying dit dit ditdit noise when the iphone is downloading data. Not exactly the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning

2008-09-09 Thread DeVerm
opaqueice;338672 Wrote: Try bringing an iphone near any powered-on stereo system (or computer speakers, or telephone for that matter). You'll here this annoying dit dit ditdit noise when the iphone is downloading data. Not exactly the same thing we were talking about, but it shows it's