Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Looking at SPDIF with a scope...

2008-10-07 Thread DeVerm
ar-t;347845 Wrote: > No, he was also looking at a square wave out of the analogue outputs. Ah, rereading the first post I see the sneaky change from the thread-subject ;-) Now, the fun thing to do is compare that square-wave on SB output to what you see on the amp's output, on the speaker-termi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Looking at SPDIF with a scope...

2008-10-07 Thread ar-t
No, he was also looking at a square wave out of the analogue outputs. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://fo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired

2008-10-07 Thread DeVerm
Nonreality;347837 Wrote: > I know that we of feeble ears can only guess but no where is it said > that the quality is in bursts. It is always (and seldom)said just that > they prefer the wired. I would think that if it was the power down it > would only occur then. This is a lot like the flac

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DAC or Headphones

2008-10-07 Thread Nonreality
ralphpnj;342620 Wrote: > To clarify: > > From what I've heard and read, either here or on audio related forums, > the DAC in the Duet and the SqueezeBox (which, according to your > signature, is what you using) is fairly decent and competes favorably > with external DACs in the $500 and under ra

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired

2008-10-07 Thread Nonreality
DeVerm;347831 Wrote: > Michael, Your explanation is clear and sound. After reading some posts > on this issue though, my little "electronics alarm bell" started > tinkling in my head and I think that even though your explanation is > true, they might have a point. These are the interesting points

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired

2008-10-07 Thread Nonreality
Stratmangler;347771 Wrote: > Hi Everyone. > > I run my SB3 wired - I prefer the sound ! > All of my music is flac. > SB3 volume is disabled (ie fixed to 100%) as the sound degrades > considerably when the SB3 volume control is used - the music just > becomes flat & lifeless. I prefer to control

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Audiophile Rip and Store?

2008-10-07 Thread Nonreality
flacfan;347109 Wrote: > Thanx for the clarification. If it's only standard info available on > the CD, it's not a big deal for me. > freedb is not that accurate (typos, case, genre, etc) but I do confirm > each CD before ripping anyway. > I thought there might some other meta information that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Looking at SPDIF with a scope...

2008-10-07 Thread DeVerm
Phil Leigh;347725 Wrote: > Thanks Pat. The few mags I read don't often have graphs these days :o) > > I guess I need to do some more reading. > Anyway, regardless of what is on the scope it all sounds good. > It did seem counter-intuitive to me that the sine wave would be so > perfect and the sq

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired

2008-10-07 Thread DeVerm
mvalera;347815 Wrote: > Let me just say this categorically... a wired or wireless connection has > absolutely no effect on the "sound" of any of our players. None. > Now a bad network connection may make a song stop, or re-sync, but > that's it. Wired or wireless the actual music file is actually

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread DeVerm
I love these threads because I end up reading webpage that bubble up from Google with all sorts of information that I didn't know yet. I think it was Pat who mentioned variable pitch on vinyl so that the groove gets a bit more space for loud passages etc. What I found is that they need to delay t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired

2008-10-07 Thread mvalera
Let me just say this categorically... a wired or wireless connection has absolutely no effect on the "sound" of any of our players. None. Now a bad network connection may make a song stop, or re-sync, but that's it. Wired or wireless the actual music file is actually sent to the player, cached in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread Pat Farrell
chill wrote: > Call me a cynic, but this could be nothing more than marketing people > saying what they think their customers want to hear. Advertising a DAC > as sounding 'analog' will not turn away customers who don't believe that > digital is inferior, but I might just attract those who do. Ex

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread Themis
It seems logical and accurate. I agree with you. -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: ht

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread chill
Themis;347744 Wrote: > But I'm amazed that middle-priced dacs advertise themselves as "analog > sounding". Their marketing dept obviously decided that their actual > quality has reached time-to-market towards high-end (analog) customers. Call me a cynic, but this could be nothing more than marke

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired

2008-10-07 Thread Stratmangler
Hi Everyone. I run my SB3 wired - I prefer the sound ! All of my music is flac. SB3 volume is disabled (ie fixed to 100%) as the sound degrades considerably when the SB3 volume control is used - the music just becomes flat & lifeless. I prefer to control volume further down the line. My router i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter usage

2008-10-07 Thread JJZolx
pkfox;347636 Wrote: > Hi all, I'm curious as to what others might be doing with their TP's, I > have a pretty straightforward setup with the analog outputs connected > direct to my Meridian poweramp, does anyone do anything different ? > what are the other sockets used for ? My setup is very str

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread Themis
Additional information (regarding my immediately previous post): I've been looking to various dacs these days, I'm not trying to replace my own dac (that I find ok for the price I've paid - used), I was just trying to keep up with market's new models and tendencies, especially on the mid-high pric

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Looking at SPDIF with a scope...

2008-10-07 Thread Phil Leigh
ar-t;347536 Wrote: > A digitally-encoded square wave doesn't look identical to the one from > your function generator. If all that you are puzzled about is the > wiggly lines on the leading and trailing edges, then there is nothing > wrong. It has to do with anti-aliasing filters and stuff like t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread Themis
DCtoDaylight;347570 Wrote: > No, Pat was correct, and you were wrong. ADC's attempt to measure the > instantaneous voltage level at an exact time. They do not measure a > "tangential value", and while you might call their errors > "approximations" it's more correct to call them what they are: e

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital loopback

2008-10-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;347669 Wrote: > Phil Leigh wrote: > > Can anyone confirm whether or not this feature is now working? > > Phil, > > Define "working" - I've been using it since it was first introduced in > > beta firmware! > > R. Excellent Robin - thanks. (Sound of transporter edging slowly closer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter usage

2008-10-07 Thread cliveb
pkfox;347651 Wrote: > Interesting, what advantage is there pushing the DVD through the TP as > opposed to direct to the TV ? Well, the picture still goes to the TV :-) Since the speakers are directly connected to the TP, the only way to get a signal to them is via the TP. That was the whole poin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital loopback

2008-10-07 Thread Robin Bowes
Phil Leigh wrote: > Can anyone confirm whether or not this feature is now working? Phil, Define "working" - I've been using it since it was first introduced in beta firmware! R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://li

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter usage

2008-10-07 Thread Rodney_Gold
I have used mine via xlr into ATC SCM50a actives and via rca into a headphone amp simultaneously. Currently just being used as a digital front end into a pair of Meridian DSP 5500's. I did also use a Z-sys RDP-1 digital pre/parametric eq between its SPDIF out and dac and have plans to try to g

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is something you dont get fromdigital

2008-10-07 Thread jeffmeh
pfarrell;347456 Wrote: > Themis wrote: > > > I was talking about the METHOD which is lossless. Is there > > any theory saying that a non-transforming METHOD is lossy ? Can you > > please enlighten me ? > > Can you enlighten me on what you mean by "METHOD" here? > Do you mean method acting? or s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter usage

2008-10-07 Thread pkfox
cliveb;347649 Wrote: > My Transporter is directly connected to a pair of ATC SCM100A active > monitors, via 13dB passive attenuators, using the balanaced outputs. > > On the input side, I have a Topfield PVR on the Toslink input and a > Cambridge Audio DVD player on the BNC SPDIF input - the Tra

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter usage

2008-10-07 Thread cliveb
pkfox;347636 Wrote: > Hi all, I'm curious as to what others might be doing with their TP's, I > have a pretty straightforward setup with the analog outputs connected > direct to my Meridian poweramp, does anyone do anything different ? > what are the other sockets used for ? My Transporter is dir

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter usage

2008-10-07 Thread pkfox
Hi all, I'm curious as to what others might be doing with their TP's, I have a pretty straightforward setup with the analog outputs connected direct to my Meridian poweramp, does anyone do anything different ? what are the other sockets used for ? -- pkfox When the going gets weird - the weird

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Balanced Blue Jeans cables

2008-10-07 Thread NewBuyer
opaqueice;347079 Wrote: > Insufficient noise rejection is highly unlikely to be an issue given > that the cable is balanced and your run is probably not that long. > Therefore I'd go with the Belden for its lower C. Same here - I recommend the Belden. -- NewBuyer