Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)

2010-05-31 Thread mswlogo
cliveb;551849 Wrote: > Phil, I think you've misunderstood what Mr_Sukebe is saying. He is > saying that he hears differences in output *from the same DAC* when > using different SPDIF sources. So he's not comparing one DAC to > another. > > That said, I remain unconvinced that jitter is the caus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter: No more bug fixes in firmware

2010-05-31 Thread garym
michael123;551878 Wrote: > yes, but somebody who is into Transporter shall buy it due to its DAC > sonic capabilities.. > > Although Transporter still has some advantages (AES/EBU, BNC, much > better power supply and clock), it is not clear how that will show up > within particular setup, and I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter: No more bug fixes in firmware

2010-05-31 Thread michael123
Phil Leigh;551876 Wrote: > Michael, the Touch is a very, very good transport. One of the best I've > heard at any price. The quality of its S/PDIF output is superb. yes, but somebody who is into Transporter shall buy it due to its DAC sonic capabilities.. Although Transporter still has some ad

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter: No more bug fixes in firmware

2010-05-31 Thread Phil Leigh
michael123;551870 Wrote: > Transporter is in a different league... > I would understand if you say "I have bought PS Audio PerfectWave > DAC/Transport Combo" :-) > > Or, I went with Computer/DAC (say, Weiss or MSB) solution... > > But Touch? Michael, the Touch is a very, very good transport. O

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter: No more bug fixes in firmware

2010-05-31 Thread michael123
Teus de Jong;551855 Wrote: > Well this remark convinced me and I have bought a Touch as second > player. > > Teus Transporter is in a different league... I would understand if you say "I have bought PS Audio PerfectWave DAC/Transport Combo" :-) Or, I went with Computer/DAC (say, Weiss or MSB)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter: No more bug fixes in firmware

2010-05-31 Thread Teus de Jong
andyg;54 Wrote: > No, the topic should read "No more enhancements". Bugs will continue to > be fixed when necessary, the issues linked earlier in this topic are > very minor or were enhancements. > > -- > andyg > Well this remark convinced me and I have bought a Touch as second player. T

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)

2010-05-31 Thread Phil Leigh
cliveb;551849 Wrote: > Phil, I think you've misunderstood what Mr_Sukebe is saying. He is > saying that he hears differences in output *from the same DAC* when > using different SPDIF sources. So he's not comparing one DAC to > another. > > That said, I remain unconvinced that jitter is the caus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)

2010-05-31 Thread cliveb
Phil Leigh;551821 Wrote: > Not necessarily. Just because a DAC sounds different does not > necessarily mean jitter is involved... every DAC has a slightly > different filtering circuit after the DAC and a slightly different > analogue output stage and so will have a signature sound of its own. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)

2010-05-31 Thread Phil Leigh
Mr_Sukebe;551811 Wrote: > Interesting, I've never found a DAC that can completely eliminate jitter > and I've tried a few, including a Bel Canto DAC2 (that supposedly > reclocked) and my existing Meridian 568.2 that uses some clever FIFO. > On both DACs, different quality digital sources sounded

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)

2010-05-31 Thread Mr_Sukebe
mswlogo;550412 Wrote: > They are both absolutely 100% bit perfect (TosLink and Coax, Wifi and > Wired). I've recorded the SPDIF on both and neither will miss a bit. > Only difference may be jitter. But as dicussed elsewhere a good DAC > will take care of that. Interesting, I've never found a DAC