Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Percival Sweetwater
Cat 7e at least, with gold plated connectors at each end! Also disable the Touch's screen, and analogue output, and hack around with the firmware a bit. Never use the SD card or USB port, or the TOSLINK. Feed into a Wolfson DAC with a length of OFC 75 Ohm coax the length of which should be a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread ralphpnj
Percival Sweetwater;616116 Wrote: Cat 7e at least, with gold plated connectors at each end! Also disable the Touch's screen, and analogue output, and hack around with the firmware a bit. Never use the SD card or USB port, or the TOSLINK. Feed into a Wolfson DAC with a length of OFC 75 Ohm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital vs. Analog (again)

2011-03-07 Thread duke43j
Archimago;615755 Wrote: 1. Digital easily beats vinyl (gotta be careful since obviously reel-to-reel is a different beast) for sound quality. ... 3. In the 16/44 vs. 24/88+ debate, I've done my own ABX'ing with FooBar over the last 2 years. As Phil already suggested, using the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
May I remind you that the wearing of suitable headgear (as promoted by our friend MNYB) is mandatory: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+snake-oil+hats-caps -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital vs. Analog (again)

2011-03-07 Thread garym
duke43j;616155 Wrote: FYI I’ve found this film clip of an AES workshop that debunks many of the audiophile myths. I think it puts a lot of things into perspective. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ Some audiophiles don't want myths debunked. To them it is a religion and they

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread ralphpnj
Phil Leigh;616156 Wrote: May I remind you that the wearing of suitable headgear (as promoted by our friend MNYB) is mandatory: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+snake-oil+hats-caps Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread duke43j
I would think that the best of worlds would be where the transport feeds a DAC over a digital interface that supports flow control (e.g. Ethernet). That way the DAC would be able to fill a local buffer (memory) with digital data that is then clocked out to the converter with an independent clock.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
ralphpnj;616163 Wrote: Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best with which type of music. White or black for jazz? Blue for Jazz. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
duke43j;616181 Wrote: I would think that the best of worlds would be where the transport feeds a DAC over a digital interface that supports flow control (e.g. Ethernet). That way the DAC would be able to fill a local buffer (memory) with digital data that is then clocked out to the converter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread duke43j
Phil Leigh;616200 Wrote: It's similar, but the BEST way to connect transport to Dac is via i2s, with a clock connection from dac to transport, so that the dac clock drives the transport. Yes, that may work just as well if the time delays across the interface are accounted for. But I don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread JohnSwenson
duke43j;616181 Wrote: I think that is the way the Wavelength DAC works using a USB interface. From reading the literature, it sounds like it controls the flow of data by sending NAKs (not acknowledge) back to the source which effectively tells the source to retransmit the data (thereby

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Creating correction filter (DRC) with Align

2011-03-07 Thread AlexMurphy
All of my experimentation thus far has led me to believe that the current release of the program is broken. Its seems like Vanderham or the folks at Solostatic [http://www.solostatic.com/wordpress_solostatic/ervaringen-met-de-logitech-squeezebox-duet/] have access to an older release. I'm

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: Balanced Passive Pre-amp used for Transporter

2011-03-07 Thread mrthreeplates
Hi All, Sorry for the Spam, but I thought fellow audiophiles might be interested. I no longer have my Transporter, so my passive pre amp that I build up from quality parts is not longer needed. I used it between by Transporter and a pair of Bryston Mono amps (all gone now). The pre-amp uses a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Robin Bowes
On 07/03/11 17:42, Phil Leigh wrote: ralphpnj;616163 Wrote: Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best with which type of music. White or black for jazz? Blue for Jazz. Kind of... -- Feed that ego and you starve the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
duke43j;616210 Wrote: Yes, that may work just as well if the time delays across the interface are accounted for. But I don't see how that would be better. I suggest you read up on it - it's been established best practice for about 20 years! There are no time delays (electrons travel at speed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Creating correction filter (DRC) with Align

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
AlexMurphy;616227 Wrote: All of my experimentation thus far has led me to believe that the current release of the program is broken. Its seems like Vanderham or the folks at Solostatic [http://www.solostatic.com/wordpress_solostatic/ervaringen-met-de-logitech-squeezebox-duet/] have access

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;616231 Wrote: On 07/03/11 17:42, Phil Leigh wrote: ralphpnj;616163 Wrote: Oh dear! How could we have forgotten about the caps. Please Phil do tell us which style and color cap works best with which type of music. White or black for jazz? Blue for Jazz. Kind

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread Midnight
Just swopped out my Duet for a Touch and then tried the touchtoolbox mods. I prefer the sound of the standard unmodified Touch myself. But my thanks go out to SC for the advise to change the file settings for Flac as this made a huge difference for me. Well that and also always ensuring that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks raises prices - again

2011-03-07 Thread darrenyeats
earwaxer9;615708 Wrote: hahahahaha!! -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch SqueezeControl for Android

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread magiccarpetride
Midnight;616256 Wrote: Just swopped out my Duet for a Touch and then tried the touchtoolbox mods. I prefer the sound of the standard unmodified Touch myself. But my thanks go out to SC for the advise to change the file settings for Flac as this made a huge difference for me. Well

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread sebp
Midnight;616256 Wrote: Very pleased with the Touch much better sound thatn the old Duet Well, it's already sounding a lot better out of the box, streaming FLAC natively. -- sebp 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread Midnight
magiccarpetride;616275 Wrote: Highly recommended that you bypass the Touch built-in DAC and use the digital coax output into the dedicated high quality DAC. Makes a huge difference in sound quality. Wot more money already ?!! What would you recommend? -- Midnight

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread Peter314
Phil Leigh;616239 Wrote: There are no time delays (electrons travel at speed of light... Not -quite- that fast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_propagation_speed but probably quick enough... :) -- Peter314

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread garym
Midnight;616278 Wrote: Wot more money already ?!! What would you recommend? The touch has a very nice DAC. unless you have money to spend and already have really good speakers, I wouldn't worry about a DAC. If you do want a DAC, I've always liked my Benchmark DAC. If I had the touch first,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread sebp
garym;616286 Wrote: The touch has a very nice DAC. unless you have money to spend and already have really good speakers, I wouldn't worry about a DAC. If you do want a DAC, I've always liked my Benchmark DAC. If I had the touch first, I would not have purchased the benchmark. It's my point,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread magiccarpetride
Midnight;616278 Wrote: Wot more money already ?!! What would you recommend? At the entry level, I'd recommend Gatorized Caiman DAC. It'll set you back by about $380, but it's going to make your system sound like a million bucks. I've tried other DACs, some even three times more expensive,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread Midnight
magiccarpetride;616311 Wrote: At the entry level, I'd recommend Gatorized Caiman DAC. It'll set you back by about $380, but it's going to make your system sound like a million bucks. I've tried other DACs, some even three times more expensive, and Caiman gives them good run for their money.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-07 Thread magiccarpetride
Midnight;616314 Wrote: I see it has a headphone stage as well. Any good? Unfortunately, I think that Caiman is only good at one thing -- doing the Digital-to-Analog conversion. I'm singularly unimpressed by its headphone stage. I think you can get a much better sounding, dedicated headphone

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Peter314;616283 Wrote: Not -quite- that fast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_propagation_speed but probably quick enough... :) OK - 79% of the speed of light then... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...