Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-15 Thread soundcheck
JohnSwenson;618083 Wrote: The actual gain computations happen inside jive_alsa, I know exactly where, I'll take a look at it tonight. The routine takes a 16 bit gain and a 24 bit value and returns a 32 bit value. The 32 bit value is right shifted by 8 bits, MSB zero padded into 32 bits

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread stop-spinning
Absinth;618056 Wrote: Yes, I have tried DacMagic and Benchmark, that rejects jitter quite well, but my Audio Note DAC plays music, not sounds and I love that. Unfortunately it doesn't reject jitter too well, but with an upgraded Touch with a better power supply it sounds fantastic... at a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread Absinth
stop-spinning;618139 Wrote: If you are concerned about getting good power to the V-Link (or V-Dac for that matter) I understand that the V-PSU is an upgrade to both. I think it's quite versatile to have a single PSU that can accommodate up to three of the V-Series from MF. I understand

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread adamdea
Hmmm think I may have copied from thread. should I have changed something- or should I revert to original. Thnink I may have set up phone as player in ipeng- would that affect the settings? -- adamdea adamdea's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
krzys;618105 Wrote: Is the MAC address 00:04:20:1e:01:7c in your custom-convert.conf the address of your actual player? Oh I see that you have another player too 00:04:20:22:01:8e. Are they your players (SB units) or do you have copied the custom-convert file from this tread? Chris They

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Robin Bowes
On 14/03/11 15:22, JezA wrote: Where else does the experience of music exist if not in your mind? I absolutely agree - the enjoyment of music is a cerebral experience. However, we're conflating two separate phenomena here, ie. a change to a music reproduction system vs. a change in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread keroubim
Absinth;617930 Wrote: Hi Of course this would mean running SqueezeboxServer, Inguz and the squeezebox software emulation from the same system. I would control it Squeezepad or iPeng on my iPad. Would you think this is a wise choice? Any comments are welcome. Greetings! this is what I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread bernt
http://vortexbox.org/documentation/vortexbox-player/ -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - Vortexbox@HP SFF iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread Absinth
bernt;618162 Wrote: http://vortexbox.org/documentation/vortexbox-player/ Woha! That's hardly eye candy, is it? I wouldn't want an ugly looking POS standing in my living room. The Mac Mini looks so much better. And no information about noise dampening... No Way! I might consider building my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-15 Thread soundcheck
bluegaspode;618073 Wrote: Again I'd suggest to follow the easy route: That obviously won't solve my and some others VC-100 sound difference issue. If I'd be following the easy route all the time, I'd still be living in a cave sitting with an average product on my lap. I'll look further

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread bernt
Absinth;618167 Wrote: Woha! That's hardly eye candy, is it? I wouldn't want an ugly looking POS standing in my living room. The Mac Mini looks so much better. And no information about noise dampening... No Way! I might consider building my own with something like this:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini as server?

2011-03-15 Thread Absinth
bernt;618171 Wrote: Maybe you can install Vortexbox on the Mac Mini? If I install Squeezeboxserver and the software client on the Mac (which I plan to), I have pretty much the same functionality. -- Absinth Absinth's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread krzys
Phil I think you know what to do , please post your custom-convert file with Xes in place of your MAC addresses and add some instructions if we want to stop answer the same question again and again ;-) Chris -- krzys

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rega DAC - Has anyone auditioned one yet?

2011-03-15 Thread The Fez
Im using the Rega DAC with SBT - and coax. Sounds very good to me.. And getting better. It's a nice piece of kit too. Aesthetics are important to me and the DAC looks the goods in my rack. Two -- count 'em 2 Wolfson WM8472 DACs inside. Build quality excellent. -- The Fez

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
krzys;618178 Wrote: Phil I think you know what to do , please post your custom-convert file with Xes in place of your MAC addresses and add some instructions if we want to stop answer the same question again and again ;-) Chris Yes Chris - I will do that later today - the same thought

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread mlsstl
Robin Bowes;618158 Wrote: On 14/03/11 15:22, JezA wrote: Where else does the experience of music exist if not in your mind? I absolutely agree - the enjoyment of music is a cerebral experience. However, we're conflating two separate phenomena here, ie. a change to a music

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;618145 Wrote: They are my MACs... Adam, you need to EDIT these (in Wordpad) to your own MACs. What SB players do you have? Just a touch. Am feeling very sheepish. if I have only one player do I delete the second half? -- adamdea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;618215 Wrote: Just a touch. Am feeling very sheepish. if I have only one player do I delete the second half? Have you changed the MAC address in the first half? Yes you can delete the entire second half - but it won't do any harm. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
Please use the attached custom-convert.conf file if you want to have everything upsampled to 24/96 for use with the Touch. Please replace the MAC address with your own. +---+ |Filename: Inguz custom-convert.zip

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread JezA
Simon Marius' claims to have seen the moons of Jupiter were dismissed by his critics as syphilitic hallucinations. Everyone knew the sun went round the earth. He must have imagined them, mustn't he. Don't hear what you don't want to hear. -- JezA

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread magiccarpetride
Robin Bowes;618158 Wrote: On 14/03/11 15:22, JezA wrote: Where else does the experience of music exist if not in your mind? I absolutely agree - the enjoyment of music is a cerebral experience. However, we're conflating two separate phenomena here, ie. a change to a music

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Robin Bowes
On 15/03/11 16:24, JezA wrote: Simon Marius' claims to have seen the moons of Jupiter were dismissed by his critics as syphilitic hallucinations. Everyone knew the sun went round the earth. He must have imagined them, mustn't he. Don't hear what you don't want to hear. Any your point

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Robin Bowes
On 15/03/11 16:28, magiccarpetride wrote: JezA;618222 Wrote: Simon Marius' claims to have seen the moons of Jupiter were dismissed by his critics as syphilitic hallucinations. Everyone knew the sun went round the earth. He must have imagined them, mustn't he. Don't hear what you don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Robin Bowes
On 15/03/11 16:29, magiccarpetride wrote: sigh And your point is? R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes http://www.theshackshakers.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Curt962
Well, for an alleged troll post, I'd say this thread has at least generated some good discussion, and perhaps some food for thought for many. Maybe a little bomb-throwing, but largely a civil discussion. That's good. As far as cables go? I believed in magic when I was 7. I don't now.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Howard Turkster
I'd be curious to know how many of the cable nay-sayers have demoed some of the more expensive speaker wire vs. the standard Radio Shack wire in good quality home set-ups. -- Howard Turkster Howard Turkster's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread adamdea
Phil Leigh;618216 Wrote: Have you changed the MAC address in the first half? Yes you can delete the entire second half - but it won't do any harm. I don't know if I have felt so stupid since I gave up workwork in the 4th form. I will have a crack tomorrow evening -is there any advantage in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Robin Bowes
On 15/03/11 16:47, Howard Turkster wrote: I'd be curious to know how many of the cable nay-sayers have demoed some of the more expensive speaker wire vs. the standard Radio Shack wire in good quality home set-ups. Howard, I don't believe I've seen any cable nay-sayers around here. Do you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Curt962
Howard, I don't believe that anyone here is suggesting that 50ft of 26awg is going to outperform a premium cable of any sort. Curious that generic spool wire is more than adequate to wire up our amplifier and speaker internals, but that's another discussion... Some of us HAVE made comparisons

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;618233 Wrote: I don't know if I have felt so stupid since I gave up workwork in the 4th form. I will have a crack tomorrow evening -is there any advantage in using your new zip file (with MAC address amended as discussed) or am I as well off with the version i was using. Does this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;618158 Wrote: On 14/03/11 15:22, JezA wrote: Where else does the experience of music exist if not in your mind? I absolutely agree - the enjoyment of music is a cerebral experience. However, we're conflating two separate phenomena here, ie. a change to a music

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Howard Turkster
Robin Bowes;618240 Wrote: On 15/03/11 16:47, Howard Turkster wrote: I'd be curious to know how many of the cable nay-sayers have demoed some of the more expensive speaker wire vs. the standard Radio Shack wire in good quality home set-ups. Howard, I don't believe I've seen any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Curt962
I'd love to see some actual test data for the various speaker cables out there. You know...resistance, inductance, capacitance... That might be a real eye opener. Then again -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom..

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread JezA
On 'this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938highlight=power+cordpage=2) John Swenson gave a decent argument, which he can no doubt support by measurement, that power-cables can cause things to which they are connected to behave differently in the audio domain. A good

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Curt962
Jez...once again, I don't believe that anyone is disputing that cables have an influencethe discussion is at what point do the influences cease to make a meaningful difference, and...at what point do we wish to stop funneling added money into the matter. Apparently...there is no point.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread magiccarpetride
Robin Bowes;618230 Wrote: On 15/03/11 16:29, magiccarpetride wrote: sigh And your point is? R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes http://www.theshackshakers.com/ Don't feed the troll! -- magiccarpetride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
JezA;618256 Wrote: On 'this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938highlight=power+cordpage=2) John Swenson gave a decent argument, which he can no doubt support by measurement, that power-cables can cause things to which they are connected to behave differently in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Waldo Pepper
JezA;617955 Wrote: A cable can't create information, so using DSP instead isn't the answer. The best you can hope for is that it doesn't lose any. Some amplifiers are horrifically sensitive to speaker cables - Naim amps, for example, go unstable (which is certainly measurable! and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Curt962
I'm on board with Phil here. I worked in this business years ago, and it was getting apparent what was happening 20+ years ago. Separate conductors for lows/mids/highs.uh huh.That, and the special copper (mined by hand)and all the rest. Measure the shunt capacitance of said cable

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Waldo Pepper
Phil Leigh;618266 Wrote: The LCR of the cables becomes part of the circuit they are attached to. No No No. The Thevenin equivalent circuit (Google it) and a bit of schoolboy maffs show this is untrue. An amplifier has near zero output impedance so resistive loss will only affect the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Daverz
JezA;618222 Wrote: Simon Marius' claims to have seen the moons of Jupiter were dismissed by his critics as syphilitic hallucinations. Everyone knew the sun went round the earth. He must have imagined them, mustn't he. What if all we ever had for 4 centuries were anecdotal sightings of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread adamdea
JezA;618256 Wrote: On 'this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938highlight=power+cordpage=2) John Swenson gave a decent argument, which he can no doubt support by measurement, that power-cables can cause things to which they are connected to behave differently in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
Waldo Pepper;618274 Wrote: No No No. The Thevenin equivalent circuit (Google it) and a bit of schoolboy maffs show this is untrue. An amplifier has near zero output impedance so resistive loss will only affect the volume by so little you cannot measure, yet even hear. The capacitance is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;618277 Wrote: My recollection is that JS' observation was that power cables could affect equipment through transformer resonance or something similar which I don't understand however his finding was that the effect of any given cable on a particular system was unpredictable and that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread magiccarpetride
Robin Bowes;618240 Wrote: On 15/03/11 16:47, Howard Turkster wrote: I'd be curious to know how many of the cable nay-sayers have demoed some of the more expensive speaker wire vs. the standard Radio Shack wire in good quality home set-ups. Howard, I don't believe I've seen any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Curt962
OMG...that is beyond hilarious!!! Better still is to read the user reviews... I don't care how bad your day has been...you'll laugh hysterically!!! -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread vrette
magiccarpetride;618286 Wrote: Not true. And here is the proof: AudioQuest K2 terminated speaker cable - UST plugs 8' (2.44m) pair (selling on amazon.com for $8450.00 -- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J36XR2/ref=cm_rdp_product) is getting rave reviews. No wonder, since it says on the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread magiccarpetride
A question popped into my head today: if indeed audio component burn-in is a verifiable (or, close to verifiable) fact (as many claim), how is it that used components are cheaper than the new ones? Shouldn't it be the other way around? The way I look at it, time is money, and also time is one

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread vrette
OT. but... I decided to see what other pricey items AudioQuest has to offer here: http://www.audioquest.com/pdfs/RetailPriceBook_v2010-May-web.pdf and much to my embarrassment, I realized I actually own one of their USB cables. I paid Crutchfield $29 for a AudioQuest Forest 5 foot USB cable

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread JezA
Daverz;618278 Wrote: I find this rather petulant. Do you have anything to suggest that skepticism isn't warranted? Nothing wrong with skepticism at all; a good skeptic would put the claim to the test. So which cables have you listened to comparitively in your system? Since you do not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;618316 Wrote: A question popped into my head today: if indeed audio component burn-in is a verifiable (or, close to verifiable) fact (as many claim), how is it that used components are cheaper than the new ones? Shouldn't it be the other way around? The way I look at it,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread SuperQ
Phil Leigh;618356 Wrote: Perfect null on ADM. Next up, magic amplifier isolating wood blocks. :) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Leigh
SuperQ;618358 Wrote: Next up, magic amplifier isolating wood blocks. :) Already done it (sort of). Tried vibrating my (old) DAC with a power drill... :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread maggior
What about burn-in of speakers and headphones? I never bought into the whole equipment burn in idea as it regards sound quality. However, in the past year I bought a pair of headphones (Grado SR-225i) and speakers (Polk Monitor 70) that to my ears sounded better over time. The Grado headphones

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Daverz
JezA;618321 Wrote: Nothing wrong with skepticism at all; a good skeptic would put the claim to the test. A good skeptic would wait for you to give some evidence for your claims. The whole point of skepticism is to sort through a world of competing and contradictory truth claims to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread maggior
magiccarpetride;618316 Wrote: A question popped into my head today: if indeed audio component burn-in is a verifiable (or, close to verifiable) fact (as many claim), how is it that used components are cheaper than the new ones? Shouldn't it be the other way around? The way I look at it,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread pski
Ron Olsen;618397 Wrote: A Sonus Faber rep came to my place to adjust speaker placement on my new Stradivaris; he said the sound would get better with use. I have no reason to doubt him. Can't really say myself; they've always sounded fabulous to me! You hear what you want to hear but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-15 Thread Daverz
pski;618404 Wrote: This is getting to the point where reading is tedious You is in the wrong place for easy titillation, that's fer sure. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-15 Thread Daverz
I've definitely heard things I didn't want to hear. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86359