Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me pick 1 of 3 amps! (amp noob)

2011-12-29 Thread MCG555
Denon and Onkjo are a good choice in this price range. Try to listen both with the future speakers. And yes, you can run your TV over the amp (for the sound) Have fun... -- MCG555 Greetings from Switzerland - Markus :-) Proac Response D15, Astintrew AT2000plus, BW Sub ASW 610, SB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
stormbound in the hotel, so here are a few thoughts 1. not only different systems affect the outcome, but also the volume that the music is played at has an affect. I am playing at quite a low volume and therefore this has an effect on the balance which might seem overemphasised when played at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread Sligolad
I have to say I have found the past week very rewarding and at least some of the confusion has contributed to some very civil and thoughtful posting. It is a long way from the early days here of very positive and negative posting which at times drove me away from this forum. It appears we now

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
magiccarpetride;680205 Wrote: I've spent some additional time doing critical listening with the latest mods. The liveliness and the level of detail is now unprecedented. For example, Dave Liebman's Your Lady (from his phenomenal album Drum Ode, ECM, 1975) came to life in an amazingly musical

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread pavowren
magiccarpetride;680205 Wrote: ... The sound is now so alive, so muscular, so sturdy, that it gets overwhelmingly emotional. ... i was not expecting much, if at all, with p.62 mods. but to me, this latest changes are more noticeable than tt3.0 was from factory settings. music and voices

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me pick 1 of 3 amps! (amp noob)

2011-12-29 Thread sc53
Have you heard of the Outlaw Audio brand of receivers? They are very highly regarded on Audiogon at least, and they are very inexpensive for what you get. I would go for one of those, or a used Arcam, or the $400 NAD integrated amp before I went with one of your choices. -- sc53 Living Room ~

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
Thanks Klaus, happy new year! Hopefully you can reveal the watchdog mystery when you're back. :) Is it alive og is it killed? Over to something interesting, I hope: The [i]top[/] command is, from what I've heard, helpful to show what processes are running on the server aka SBT. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
don't know why watchdog makes a difference, but it does. there is definately more detail at chrt -o -p 0 13 and a smoother sound at chrt -f -p 99 13. other effects are more difficult to separate from psychological effects - in fact I am surprised at how the mind can be tricked by the powers of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
SBGK;680128 Wrote: don't know why watchdog makes a difference, but it does. there is definately more detail at chrt -o -p 0 13 and a smoother sound at chrt -f -p 99 13. Ok. How do you know that the PID 13 is Watchdog? Doesn't the PID change constantly? 35 mile winds and driving rain Wow!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread lake_eleven
magiccarpetride;680205 Wrote: in my case, with the upgrade to the power cable -- I've just installed a new Shunyata power cable, which was a revelation May we know which Shunyata cord is that and where was it inserted in the chain. -- lake_eleven

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
Last, but not least. At least very confusing Playing CDripp 16/44 TT3.0 [image: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/02_music_TT30.jpg] Then I discovered that the SBT without mods went a bit up and down, couldnt see the same thing with the TT3.0 installed. NOMODS HIGH

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?

2011-12-29 Thread steveinaz
pski;679933 Wrote: More speakers I've never heard of. Jeez ! Google gave me a picture and specs. Those guys are open for business. Nothing else on Google, though. Where did they originate? P John Fritz Hieler builds Fritz speakers. A friend of mine turn me on to Fritz when I was looking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread magiccarpetride
NoRoDa;680215 Wrote: What are you going to report next week, when SBGK comes up with some new values for priorities? ;):D :D Nothing much, I think I'm just going to punch in the clock. -- magiccarpetride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread magiccarpetride
guidof;679984 Wrote: How interesting that magiccarpetride and I seem to get similar sound with different values . . . It looks more and more like these mods are system dependent and, of course, dependent upon what we like to hear! ;-) Guido F. I've spent some additional time doing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread guidof
SBGK;680087 Wrote: stormbound in the hotel, so here are a few thoughts snip 3. has anyone tried the priorities for TT2.0, I would like to hear what they sound like. 4. the advantage of the SBGK p62 settings is that there is headroom to play with from jivealsa at 45 all the way to 75 and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread soundcheck
Hi folks. Just had a quick look to see what's been going on over here during the last couple of days. It seems there's not much to comment. And not much has changed. Thx to NoRoDa's recent initiative to sort out that IMO massive confusion that's been generated during the last couple of days.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
NoRoDa;680133 Wrote: Ok. How do you know that the PID 13 is Watchdog? Doesn't the PID change constantly? seems to stay at 13, just like pdflush stay at 154/155 -- SBGK SBGK's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread guidof
Sligolad;680191 Wrote: I have to say I have found the past week very rewarding and at least some of the confusion has contributed to some very civil and thoughtful posting. It is a long way from the early days here of very positive and negative posting which at times drove me away from this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
The readouts from -top- with SBGK p62 mods: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/04_nomusic_TT30_SBGK.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/04_HiRez_music_TT30_SBGK.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/04_music_TT30_SBGK.jpg -- NoRoDa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
[image: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/priosettingstoolbox1.jpg] First, my thoughts on the priorities named SBGK...(mostly default Logitech) We have such different opinions, that I'm beginning to wonder if it's all in our heads... :: The SBGK-settings are more soft, calm,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
SBGK;680087 Wrote: 5. don't forget chrt -f -p 98 154 and 155 can give a little sparkle to the music, some reported greater focus and placement of instruments. might be worth trying. also, *setting watchdog pid 13 to 30 or other values may remove some of the smoothness and add more detail.*

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread guidof
soundcheck;680176 Wrote: A happy new year to all of you guys. I'll be back next week. Cheers P.S: @John S. : Thx for the feedback. Hi, Klaus: A very Happy New Year to you, too. May 2012 bring even better Toolboxen! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
hi Soundcheck, it was a joke, he is ex logitech anyway I would say there have been huge discoveries in the last week or so. Can you explain why TT3.0 moved away from SBT defaults as I and a number of others find it too forward and aggressive. I have not seen this question asked of you before.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread magiccarpetride
lake_eleven;680208 Wrote: May we know which Shunyata cord is that and where was it inserted in the chain. Yes, it's Shunyata Venom 3 driving my power amp. It replaced my much pricier Nordost power cable, which is now delegated to powering my pre-amp. Shunyata offered much more liquid sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
Next one. HiRez music playing. NOMODS [image: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/01_HiRez_music_NOMODS.jpg] TT3.0 [image: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a270/RODARID/HIFI/01_HiRez_music_TT30.jpg] Again, WTF?? This is not a thing that happens just once, I waited for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
don't know if it might be useful to have some reference music so that everyone can describe specific issues or enhancements they have found and then others can compare using the same music. there are some flac tracks on the attached link which could be used, free download. don't know which

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me pick 1 of 3 amps! (amp noob)

2011-12-29 Thread rogueblade
Hmm, dunno if that brand exists in the UK! -- rogueblade rogueblade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92640

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me pick 1 of 3 amps! (amp noob)

2011-12-29 Thread rogueblade
Thanks. I think I'm leaning more towards the Onkyo one, still unsure though. -- rogueblade rogueblade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52746 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
guidof;680183 Wrote: @ SBGK: Maybe it's the thought of all that cold wind ;-) but I'm *very* confused. Were your p.62 numbers applicable to TT2.0 or TT3.0, or both? I tried lowering jivealsa and loadavg values (in TT3.0) and, as you confirm, the sound does break down. So, your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread SBGK
need to get this guy to start contibuting to this thread http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/richard-titmuss/4/1a7/133 -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread cfraser
I am wondering if you guys do anything special with your servers while listening to music. Such as shut down all/most apps that have nothing to do with it, or at least the apps that may use the LAN/web. Thanks. -- cfraser

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread magiccarpetride
cfraser;680240 Wrote: I am wondering if you guys do anything special with your servers while listening to music. Such as shut down all/most apps that have nothing to do with it, or at least the apps that may use the LAN/web. Thanks. I'm using headless Mac Mini for the Squeezebox media

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread lake_eleven
magiccarpetride;680247 Wrote: I'm using headless Mac Mini for the Squeezebox media server. This is a dedicated music serving box, with nothing else running on it. ... Am running Eval copy of Windows 8 on a dedicated laptop. I use TCPOptimizer and Fidelizer prior to starting SB Media Server.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread guidof
cfraser;680240 Wrote: I am wondering if you guys do anything special with your servers while listening to music. Such as shut down all/most apps that have nothing to do with it, or at least the apps that may use the LAN/web. Thanks. Nothing special. But I do have my music and LMS on a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread guidof
RGibran;680066 Wrote: Tubes and Logans? Who da thunk it? :-) RG Yes, but both amp and Logans are *hybrid* . . . Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread cfraser
Thanks. I asked that server question because it *does* make a diff here. I doubt you recall, but for instance I had to make my TT3.0 buffer size at least 4000 to prevent interruptions (extremely minute, but audible) due to the buffer emptying with some of the configs. It's not a network problem

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread TheOctavist
thanks to everyone who helped me with my connectivity issues. i now want to start implementing the sgjk mods, and would like to know how to go about doing so? do I just copy and paste the commands(beginning on page 42--is that the best base from which to start??) into the Putty window??

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread rgro
TheOctavist;680294 Wrote: thanks to everyone who helped me with my connectivity issues. i now want to start implementing the sgjk mods, and would like to know how to go about doing so? do I just copy and paste the commands(beginning on page 42--is that the best base from which to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread TheOctavist
wow, so I have implemented the p62 settings and i dont know what anyone else thinks but I have to say that the presentation is a bit more laid back, sort of a slight pipe n slippers leaning(but only VERY slightly) that took a bit of sibilance out . I have my own high res files of a recording(my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread rgro
TheOctavist;680322 Wrote: wow, so I have implemented the p62 settings and i dont know what anyone else thinks but I have to say that the presentation is a bit more laid back, sort of a slight pipe n slippers leaning(but only VERY slightly) that took a bit of sibilance out . I have my own

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-29 Thread NoRoDa
Updated Put TT3.0 default and Guido F (early p62 SBGK) together and SBGK and Logitech together. IMO the Guido F and TT3.0 defaults are similar except a few values, and the same with the SBGK and Logitech. I'm running SBGK and must admit I enjoy it. :) [image: