Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-13 Thread dlite
There have been some small technical improvements over the years but I am not a big believer that DAC's have improved significantly in the last 10-15 years. What has changed recently is there is a number of very good value priced dacs that come close to matching much more expensive DAC's. I sell

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-13 Thread benthos
Have there been any truly significant improvements in DAC design in the past year or so? -- benthos benthos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sh

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-13 Thread Badwater
I just purchased the Channel Islands DAC VDA-2 and VAC-1. They are running a 10th aniversery sale and are thowing in a nice digital cable...probably better than anything I would have purchased on my own. The package is $758 USD with free shipping in with US. Its a great DAC and so a step up over t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-12 Thread Skunk
jmourik;187491 Wrote: > I ordered the GR Research stage 1 modded dac60 today, $470 + $295 = > $765...: > http://www.gr-research.com/components/lite_dacs.shtm > > jan Seems kind of ambiguous. I liked this bit though: "Stage 2 mods are still undergoing testing. The price will be nearly twice as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-12 Thread jmourik
+1 for the Lite Dac60. Compared the dac60 to a PS Audio DLIII today, and found them to sound very much alike. The PS maybe a tad better in the highs, the Dac60 maybe a bit more mid-bass... But I wouldn't have survived an DBT. The dac60 is a slightly modded-by-owner version, I ordered the GR Resea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-11 Thread KeithL
fkuti;186750 Wrote: > I have received mine as well and I am experiencing exactly the same > thing! First: absolutely rubbish, but after 100 hours there is > significant improvement. Sound is opening and music is getting more > involving, but not yet even near to my ex-cd-player, Arcam CD33. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-09 Thread fkuti
dagordon;183721 Wrote: > Just wanted to add a strong vote for the Citypulse DAC. > > I'm using a Citypulse with TCXO upgrade with a SB3, and the results are > impressive. I was VERY skeptical upon first hearing it -- it sounded > very digital, and not as resolving as the SB3's analog outs. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-03-04 Thread KeithL
I have a BM Dac1 on sale or return. It's connected to a sb3 via a non-descript coax lead, and analog out via a Chord Chysalis rca to rca to a full Naim setup. I had a Transporter on sale or return in January and returned it after a week feeling underwhelmed. However the sb3 with BM Dac1 is much mo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-26 Thread mmg_fan
Ben Could you provide more info regarding your choice of the lavry? A couple threads from Ac and AA in favor of the DAC60: http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=29670.0 http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=digital&n=117375&highlight=dac60&r=&session= http://db.audioasylum.com/cg

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-26 Thread Ben Diss
If your budget allows $1000, then I would not hesitiate in getting the Lavry. I auditioned a DAC-60 next to my Lavry and I'd take the Lavry any day. The DAC-60 was nice and is a good deal for the price, but in my opinion the Lavry is in another league. -Ben -- Ben Diss 'SB3' (http://www.sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-26 Thread mmg_fan
I'm in the same market, looking to buy a reasonably priced ($1000 max)DAC. So far I am favoring a Lite DAC-60 from either pacific valve or GR-research. Lots of fans of the DAC-60 over at audio circle and there is also a previous thread here on people interested as well. The price seems right (un

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-26 Thread dagordon
Just wanted to add a strong vote for the Citypulse DAC. I'm using a Citypulse with TCXO upgrade with a SB3, and the results are impressive. I was VERY skeptical upon first hearing it -- it sounded very digital, and not as resolving as the SB3's analog outs. But then I remembered all of these rep

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-12 Thread fkuti
325xi;178955 Wrote: > Anything known how Citypulse handles jitter? Don't know, but I am very interested also! Because I ordered SB3+ Citypulse just a few days ago! Hope to do some testing. Must find a PSU upgrade as well. Kind regards Fkuti -- fkuti --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-08 Thread 325xi
occam;178705 Wrote: > The Citypulse is, IMO, a better DAC than anything until you start > talking big bucks, $2K+ If DAC doesn't have very strong jitter handling mechanism, it will alter its sound with different sources (different jitter spectrums and levels). Anything known how Citypulse handl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-08 Thread TCM
How would the 'Constantine' (http://cgi.ebay.com/TDA1545-TDA1545A-Non-OS-DAC-USB-Plus-Constantine_W0QQitemZ12008418QQihZ002QQcategoryZ14978QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) compare to the others? http://www.geocities.com/mhdtlab/constantine.pdf -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread occam
Fkuti, In comparison to my modified Zhaolu 2.0, its far more resolving. No, its not the equal of PhilNY's Dodson, but then again <$400 delivered vs.$8k is a big difference. The Citypulse is, IMO, a better DAC than anything until you start talking big bucks, $2K+ Then again, I've not heard everyth

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread fkuti
occam;178683 Wrote: > No, not a LC Audio Zapfilter, but like it, a discrete output stage, > housed in red translucent boxs. > http://www.diykits.com.hk/dac.html > a very, very good dac Yes might be true. I just quoted Eddie. Have you heard this DAC? Tell me more! Kind regards Fkuti -- fku

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread occam
No, not a LC Audio Zapfilter, but like it, a discrete output stage, housed in red translucent boxs. http://www.diykits.com.hk/dac.html a very, very good dac -- occam occam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread fkuti
Michael Amster;178658 Wrote: > Does anyone have technical info about the Citypulse DAC? > > Specifically: > 1. What DAC chip does it use? > 2. What is the output topology (i.e. does it use OpAmps and which > ones)? > 3. What receiver does it use CS part No? > 4. Subjectively how does it compare

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread PhilNYC
I don't know the techincal details of the Citipulse, although I'm guessing Gary knows. I strongly prefer it to the Benchmark (which I really don't like much), but don't have an opinion of how it compares to the Lavry (which I do like) since I have not heard them "head to head"... -- PhilNYC S

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread Michael Amster
Does anyone have technical info about the Citypulse DAC? Specifically: 1. What DAC chip does it use? 2. What is the output topology (i.e. does it use OpAmps and which ones)? 3. What receiver does it use CS part No? 4. Subjectively how does it compare to frontrunners like Benchmark DAC-1 and Lavry

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-07 Thread fkuti
GaryB;176583 Wrote: > I'm not Phil, but I was at one of the audio club meetings where he heard > the Citypulse and I was impressed enough to buy one. > My squeezebox is pretty heavily modified as documented in a thread > elsewhere, and the analog output sounds considerably better than the > sto

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-02 Thread moshulu
With my SB3, I am using the Monica2 DAC from diyparadise.com in Malaysia. It has a single non-oversampling chip. The sound quality is excellent. Price is 125$ + shipping! You get a fully assembled board with "boutique" components, just have to add a 12V battery or power supply, some connectors

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-02 Thread F-100
PhilNYC;176489 Wrote: > IMHO, the best "value" DAC is the Citipulse from Hong Kong. I know a > lot of guys based in the US who have bought from here with no > issues... > > http://www.diykits.com.hk/da7.2.html That is the first time I came across a DAC with a remote control. Very interesting.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-02 Thread F-100
anicca;176674 Wrote: > Hello, > You may want to check out the Paradisea DAC hand-built in Taiwan and > sold only on e-bay. $530 shipped to the US. > http://www.geocities.com/mhdtlab/ > Tube buffer and damn nice sounding DAC. It can be hard to get > though. You have to watch e-bay and grab it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread anicca
Hello, You may want to check out the Paradisea DAC hand-built in Taiwan and sold only on e-bay. $530 shipped to the US. http://www.geocities.com/mhdtlab/ Tube buffer and damn nice sounding DAC. It can be hard to get though. You have to watch e-bay and grab it fast as they go fast. -- anicca

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread milton10
And preferably under $750.00. That seems to be my upper limit. -- milton10 milton10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32336 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread Michael Amster
What DAC chip is the 7.2 based on? What output OPAMPs? The page does not say... slimkid wrote: >PhilNYC;176548 Wrote: > > >>I use a Zhaolu DAC2.0 in my office system (Zhaolu is available from the >>same website, although the 2.0 has been replaced by the 2.5...). The >>Citipulse is a step a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread PhilNYC
slimkid;176558 Wrote: > Phil, > I take it that both of these obviously outplay built in DAC in SB3? Or, > it's about a personal preference? Well, it's almost always about personal preference... :-) ...but yes, I would guess that most people would agree that both the Citipulse and the Zhaolu out

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread ErikM
Reasonable is what under a grand? I have a Bel Canto Dac 1.1 modified by Steve Huntley of Great Northern Sound http://www.greatnorthernsound.com/ very musical, great PRAT, can listen to it for hours without fatigue. -- ErikM

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread sonofcolin
Ack! Dack 2 is a very good DAC for the money and may also tickle your sonic palette. Excellent with Bolder modified SB3. -- sonofcolin sonofcolin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9291 View this th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread GaryB
slimkid;176558 Wrote: > I take it that both of these obviously outplay built in DAC in SB3? Or, > it's about a personal preference? I'm not Phil, but I was at one of the audio club meetings where he heard the Citypulse and I was impressed enough to buy one. My squeezebox is pretty heavily modi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread slimkid
PhilNYC;176548 Wrote: > > I use a Zhaolu DAC2.0 in my office system (Zhaolu is available from the > same website, although the 2.0 has been replaced by the 2.5...). The > Citipulse is a step above the Zhaolu 2.0, and I don't know anyone who > has compared it to the Zhaolu 2.5... Phil, I take i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread PhilNYC
Bill, I don't know much of the details of the Citipulse DAC other than that a friend has brought one over to my place during twice (during a local audio club meeting that I've hosted a couple of times), and both times I was very impressed with the sound. I'd put it in the same performance ballpar

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread mr_bill
Phil, Can you tell us anymore on the City Pulse Dac? I see that it has balanced out and a remote volume control - which would be nice. I'm assuming the volume control is in the analog domain rather than digital. How does it sound? Compared to a Benchmark Dac? Nice price for what looks like a lot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread PhilNYC
IMHO, the best "value" DAC is the Citipulse from Hong Kong. I know a lot of guys based in the US who have bought from here with no issues... http://www.diykits.com.hk/da7.2.html -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread shyster
The Benchmark DAC1 is $795, which I know since I just bought one and am extremely happy with it. The price of the Lavry DA10 is, as I recall, in that area. The Stello DA220 is about $1200. All get good reviews, there are various differences in their features and flexibility; in terms of sound qual

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread mlsstl
What is your definition of "reasonably priced?" A figure that is "reasonable" to me is nothing to Bill Gates but a king's ransom to an Afghani peasant. At the $1,000 new level you'd definitely want to include the Lavry DA-10 in your search. The Benchmark DAC has a good reputation at that price le

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread pedalhead
Hi have a CIAudio VDA1/VAC1 DAC & it's superb. I'd say it even has something of an "analogue" sound about it, in a good way. Totally transformed my system, much more than adding a mid-range (Naim) amplifier did. I think CIAudio are making a VDA2 now, which is a lot more expensive, but you may s

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC

2007-02-01 Thread milton10
I am looking for a nice DAC that is reasonably priced. I am interested in finished products and possibly kits (if they are fairly straigtforward and easy). Any ideas? Thanks! Milton -- milton10 milton10's Profile: http