opaqueice;339875 Wrote:
No argument there.
But still, my point was that wiring up a couple of cheapish mics with a
coathanger or a dummy head isn't quite rocket science :-).
It was before anyone else thought about it.
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Nonreality
-IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT
It is a memory test but it is testing a specific aural memory pathway.
This is relevant when A/B-ing audio. I'd hypothesize that anyone
scoring 15 could not reliably choose between the same tune played on
wildly different gear.
It would be interesting to test this hypothesis.
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Phil Leigh
Phil Leigh;339895 Wrote:
It is a memory test but it is testing a specific aural memory pathway.
This is relevant when A/B-ing audio. I'd hypothesize that anyone
scoring 15 could not reliably choose between the same tune played on
wildly different gear.
It would be interesting to test this
Nonreality;339910 Wrote:
How about 16 or 17? What is the breakthrough number?
Well, 15 is equivalent to randomly choosing. I don't know what the
magic number would be but the higher the better!
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what
Nonreality;339910 Wrote:
Phil Leigh;339895 Wrote:
It is a memory test but it is testing a specific aural memory pathway.
This is relevant when A/B-ing audio. I'd hypothesize that anyone
scoring 15 could not reliably choose between the same tune played on
wildly different gear.
It
darrenyeats;339935 Wrote:
I imagine it depends on how wildly different the gear is. :^)
Darren
:o) - yeah... say like some electrostatics vs 'Bariks... or vinyl vs
CD
wonder if people who score 15 would be sensitive to the unmatched
levels problem?
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal
Phil Leigh;339947 Wrote:
wonder if people who score 15 would be sensitive to the unmatched levels
problem?These who compare audio equipment in A/B mode in the same way as
making
this test (looking for differences in sounds they don't know in
advance), they certainly will be sensitive... ;)
Phil Leigh;339895 Wrote:
It is a memory test but it is testing a specific aural memory pathway.
This is relevant when A/B-ing audio. I'd hypothesize that anyone
scoring 15 could not reliably choose between the same tune played on
wildly different gear.
It would be interesting to test this
If you have never heard the barbershop one before it's really a fun one.
But you have to use headphones to get the effect. I've had it in my
library for a while just to show what you can do with effects. It
doesn't do much with speakers.
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Nonreality
-IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU
I scored 26/30 and 30/30 for parts 1 and 2. It strikes me that this is
basically a test of memory rather than musical acuity. The fact that
the tunes are so dreary doesn't help. Like Sean, I started off
listening out for much more subtle differences than were actually
present - this probably
Nonreality;339538 Wrote:
If you have never heard the barbershop one before it's really a fun one.
But you have to use headphones to get the effect. I've had it in my
library for a while just to show what you can do with effects. It
doesn't do much with speakers.
Yeah, that's a good
cliveb;339603 Wrote:
I scored 26/30 and 30/30 for parts 1 and 2. It strikes me that this is
basically a test of memory rather than musical acuity.
Well, with your scores it sure is just a test of your memory! For
people with a severe form of amusia it is not, as their memory works
perfectly
hmmm... I scored 26 26. Halfway through the second test I lost the
will to live (boredom).
My eldest daughter is now doing it.
I'm interested to see what she scores as she has near perfect pitch and
performs in choirs, orchestras etc, whereas I'm an old rocker who can't
sing in tune but can
shyster;339462 Wrote:
I haven't take the tests, but the article doesn't seem to say much about
whether audiophiles are imagining things. The article does discuss how
the brain processes sound.Same opinion. Interesting article, though. Pity
there's no marriage,
children and happy life in the
I think the article is pretty clear. There is no objective reality, just
a collective average interpretation but individuals hear everything
slightly differently. So it begs the age-old question... Fidelity to
what? - answer - Whatever you want
Perhaps we should stop worrying about what's right
Nonreality;339523 Wrote:
I hope you have a helmet on and your life vest. :)
He doesn't need them. This was the genius of Blumlein. Of course it's
all a beautiful illusion. It doesn't matter.
One important implication of this article is that to design a good
product that appeals to the
DeVerm;339660 Wrote:
But did you read the article? What's your opinion about it?
I have just read it. I don't see anything new in what he says. It's
always been patently obvious that what people perceive is modulated by
how their brains work.
Of course, those who are interested in
I took the test. 27/30 23/30, though I guessed on the last 15 of test
2 because of boredom.
Like someone else mentioned I think this was more a test of memory than
anything. I really don't see how this is anyway applicable to what my
hearing is able to resolve as I was only given a single
I got 26/30 and 27/30 which means I am Joe Median according to the
histogram (which I thought I'd post a link to):
http://www.delosis.com/listening/summary.html
Darren
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darrenyeats
SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1
Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system
opaqueice wrote:
Nonreality;339538 Wrote:
If you have never heard the barbershop one before it's really a fun one.
But you have to use headphones to get the effect. I've had it in my
library for a while just to show what you can do with effects. It
doesn't do much with speakers.
Yeah,
Pneumonic wrote:
I took the test. 27/30 23/30, though I guessed on the last 15 of test
2 because of boredom.
Like someone else mentioned I think this was more a test of memory than
anything. I really don't see how this is anyway applicable to what my
hearing is able to resolve as I was
Robin Bowes;339798 Wrote:
Yeah, true. And all you need to do to get to the moon is make your own
rocket an fly there!
Well, I know two people that have made binaural recordings in their
spare time, but only one astronaut (and he's only been on the shuttle
and ISS a few times, never the
Robin Bowes;339849 Wrote:
I don't think a sample size of three is statistically significant. :)
No argument there.
But still, my point was that wiring up a couple of cheapish mics with a
coathanger or a dummy head isn't quite rocket science :-).
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opaqueice
Robin Bowes wrote:
I don't think a sample size of three is statistically significant. :)
Laugh, but its weird, at 8 or 9, it can be, depending on the population.
You have to have really clear results to get the reject the null
hypothesis result, but you can do it with under ten.
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Pat Farrell
Discussions on this forum often end in one group claiming that they hear
stuff like air, seperation measured in inches etc. and another group
that claims it's imagined
The NewScientist published a good story about this, titled The
illusion of music and you can read it here:
warning: possible spoilers ahead. Take the test before reading on.
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I got 18/30 the first time and 28/30 the second time. I think the first
time I was just expecting much more subtle difference and was trying
to listen _too_ closely. I don't really see the point of this, but I
haven't read the article yet.
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seanadams
I haven't take the tests, but the article doesn't seem to say much about
whether audiophiles are imagining things. The article does discuss how
the brain processes sound. Similar things can be said about how it
processes sight. Unfortunately, that doesn't tell us anything about
whether we need to
shyster;339462 Wrote:
I haven't take the tests, but the article doesn't seem to say much about
whether audiophiles are imagining things. The article does discuss how
the brain processes sound. Similar things can be said about how it
processes sight. Unfortunately, that doesn't tell us
Quick question. Should I bother taking the test even though I'll be
taking the test while listening through my crappy laptop speakers and
soundcard which aren't close to being representative of what I would
listen to my music on?
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Pneumonic
Main: Transporter and Squeezebox 3 Roksan DAC/PS
Yes, the test is perfectly suited to laptops and crappy speakers.
N
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justNigel
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Pneumonic;339472 Wrote:
Quick question. Should I bother taking the test even though I'll be
taking the test while listening through my crappy laptop speakers and
soundcard which aren't close to being representative of what I would
listen to my music on?
Don't worry and take the test. Worst
SPOILERS!
An interesting (if somewhat boring!) test. I got 28 and 30 for parts 1
and 2 respectively. My impression was that there were many more tonal
differences in part 1 and more timing differences in 2, but I may be
imagining it. I also got selected via email for further testing, which
is
DeVerm;339442 Wrote:
Discussions on this forum often end in one group claiming that they hear
stuff like air, seperation measured in inches etc. and another group
that claims it's imagined
The NewScientist published a good story about this, titled The
illusion of music and you can
DeVerm;339442 Wrote:
Amusia actually proves that we don't hear the sound that enters our
ears but a brain-processed result of which that sound-input is only a
part.
Nothing groundbreaking there; the reality we construct from our senses
is based on perception.
Nonetheless, recordings
justNigel;339476 Wrote:
Yes, the test is perfectly suited to laptops and crappy speakers.
N
But not girlfriends in the other room.
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Skunk
http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/
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This chap has a similar test, which he calls the tonedeaf test. He also
has a few more tests: Adaptive pitch test, Rhythm test, and
Musical-Visual test. The websites don't seem to work too well with my
browsers, but after a bit of struggling, I managed to try the tests.
http://jakemandell.com/
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