Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Lanctot
SlimServer will indicate whether it will be applying a volume adjustment, just click on the track name. Look for Volume Adjustment and Album Volume Adjustment in the fields. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-27 Thread Skunk
Mark Lanctot;183981 Wrote: SlimServer will indicate whether it will be applying a volume adjustment, just click on the track name. Look for Volume Adjustment and Album Volume Adjustment in the fields. I think the word I was searching for was 'normalizing', WRT ways the ripper might cause

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Lanctot
Skunk;184017 Wrote: I think the word I was searching for was 'normalizing', WRT ways the ripper might cause this. Dang, I usually quote who I'm responding to. When I don't I often get called out. I wasn't referring to your post specifically, Skunk. :-) I'll revise the post. -- Mark

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-27 Thread kphinney
Mark's insight into checking the volume adjustment has revealed that the lower VU tracks are adjusted from -8 to -12 dB on the ones I've compared, whereas the higher VU tracks do not list a Volume Adjustment. I had a stint a few years back where I was home-bound after an accident. In that time I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Lanctot
kphinney;184182 Wrote: Mark's insight into checking the volume adjustment has revealed that the lower VU tracks are adjusted from -8 to -12 dB on the ones I've compared, whereas the higher VU tracks do not list a Volume Adjustment. That would be consistent with what you're hearing then. -8

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-27 Thread kphinney
Mark Lanctot;184184 Wrote: You can tell SS to ignore this by going to Player Settings - Audio (last section) Volume Adjustment / Replay Gain. SS is using it because the tags are there and you will find that Volume Adjustment / Replay Gain has been activated. They were most likely added

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-26 Thread Mark Lanctot
Are you using ReplayGain? If so, Internet radio will almost always be louder - contemporary music will be up to 10 dB louder as a result of the loudness wars. You may want to disable ReplayGain playback of SlimServer sources (SlimServer Player Settings - Audio - Volume Adjustment/Replay Gain).

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-26 Thread empty99
pablolie;183598 Wrote: Darn, I had prided myself on my cassette recorded skills, and friends begged me for my productions!). I know I'd be displeased if different sources had wildly different levels - for one I'd be worried about some source actually feeding too high a signal and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-26 Thread kphinney
As quoted by empty99 it does seem that the Quality is not degraded, only the volume. It is still an issue for me since changing between my sources requires turning the volume way down before switching so as to not upset my neighbors or relaxation. I switched the screen-saver over to Analog VU.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-26 Thread Skunk
kphinney;183777 Wrote: As quoted by empty99 it does seem that the Quality is not degraded, only the volume. Have you tried ripping an album with another application? Sounds like replaygain added upon ripping, though I don't remember if you said iTunes Store songs were quiet as well. It may

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread kphinney
I've just setup my Squeezebox and Slimserver and have noticed an issue regarding the quality of my stored music vs that of streams: my music, regardless of quality, hits the Squeezebox at a lower VU than outside streams (Pandora, etc.). While the majority of my collection is 128-256 kbps, I have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
It could be something as simple as inadvertent locking down of the volume on the RCA output from the SB if that's what you're using. I use the optical and an external DA function, and have never ever -despite some other issues- encountered a problem with volume levels. -- pablolie

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread kphinney
I am using digital TOC with volume locked, not RCA. With more experimentation I've found that the better the quality (1411, vs. 128kpbs) the higher the gain, but it doesn't seem to correlate completely: Streamed audio at 128 (mostlyclassical.com, groovesalad, etc) still has a much higher VU

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
any effect if your turn the gain stuff off? -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33095

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread empty99
kphinney;183583 Wrote: Thanks pablolie. I am using digital TOC with volume locked, not RCA. With more experimentation I've found that the better the quality (1411, vs. 128kpbs) the higher the gain, but it doesn't seem to correlate completely: Streamed audio at 128 (mostlyclassical.com,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
SB3-Optical-MF A3.24DAC-50kOhm pot-2 Naks PA7-BW N802- Nice! *Very* nice. Very nice indeed. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread empty99
pablolie;183592 Wrote: SB3-Optical-MF A3.24DAC-50kOhm pot-2 Naks PA7-BW N802- Nice! *Very* nice. Very nice indeed. The originator of this thread mislabeled the quality for playback level. It's only a volume issue, not sound quality per se. In my system, the PC server SB3 playback level

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
... The originator of this thread mislabeled the quality for playback level. I do think there are some standards for signal levels, so I think it would be unusual for different sources to have very different levels. Then again, I have tended to only and exclusively feed pure sources into my