[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-20 Thread 325xi
Loftprojection Wrote: Hey, an audiophile Squeezebox forum without and audiophile version of the SB, what's this! Let's tell SlimDevices what we would like and how much we'd be willing to pay for it. I would be willing to pay $100 to $200 more then the current price for an audiophile

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-16 Thread opaqueice
seanadams Wrote: I've done a great deal of experimentation with clock jitter recently using more advanced tools, and I suspect (thought I haven't tested this particular case yet) that the clock embdedding/recovery mechanism of s/pdif is a red herring, at least for a well designed system

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-16 Thread richidoo
ScottMayo Wrote: And yes, a bigger display would be nifty. Imagine a wall-mounted SuperBox, with a display, say, 18x18, capable of being read across a room, putting up titles, lyrics, and medium resolution album art. And, of course, the browse menus. (Yes, I know - expensive.) A composite

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread Deaf Cat
Yep, put me down for a hi end internal DAC, just started researching them, and have been ponderig how on earth I would compare a RWA or Bolder modSB to say a DAC1, in London Ooo and in a nice heavy little box too, so my IC's don't hold it in mid air. :) -- Deaf Cat

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread MadScientist
OK, two versions: a player with a high-end DAC and a transport without the DAC. I'd go for the latter as I could't do without the room correction on my pre-amp. MS -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread Loftprojection
By the way, I'm not trying to reach an agreement on what we want for a audiophile SB. I'm just trying to generate a number of ideas that SlimDevices management can use to better position a potential future product. Also trying to show SlimDevices that there is an interest for a high end

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread krzys
My vote goes for the best possible digital transport version since I also can not live without the digital room correction. Beside that I'm triamplified so a stereo DAC is useless for me. This pure digital transport version should be around 500-600$ and this will kill any CDP transport on the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread tomsi42
krzys Wrote: My vote goes for the best possible digital transport version since I also can not live without the digital room correction. Beside that I'm triamplified so a stereo DAC is useless for me. This pure digital transport version should be around 500-600$ and this will kill any CDP

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread krzys
tomsi42 Wrote: What you are saying is that we need 2 versions! One pure transport and one integrated unit with an even better D/A converter. Fine with me. For me only the transport is needed. I hope your are not taking the AES/EBU output as an analogue one. I understand the need for

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread ModelCitizen
tomsi42 Wrote: What you are saying is that we need 2 versions! One pure transport and one integrated unit with an even better D/A converter. At least three versions as we'd need two versions with internal DAC, one oversampling and one not. Somehow, I don't hold out too much hope for this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread tomsi42
krzys Wrote: For me only the transport is needed. I hope your are not taking the AES/EBU output as an analogue one. I understand the need for analogue version but that was not my point. Chris That's OK. The fact that everytime this discussion comes up, eveybody wants something different.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread opaqueice
Deaf Cat Wrote: OK thinking about it, maybe just a transport would be best, in a small heavy box, then we can choose our own DAC to suit our particular tastes. Mind you in saying that, I'm afraid I don't quite understand the hi end transport side of things with jitter and stuff like

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread cliveb
Loftprojection Wrote: I'm just trying to generate a number of ideas that SlimDevices management can use to better position a potential future product. Slim Devices are obviously a committed group of audio/music enthusiasts and no doubt might be personally interested in some of these ideas.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread opaqueice
cliveb Wrote: Slim Devices are obviously a committed group of audio/music enthusiasts and no doubt might be personally interested in some of these ideas. But they are also running a business, and their primary focus has to be on the majority market. That's not us. Getting sidetracked by lots

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread Deaf Cat
opaqueice Wrote: All that said, I suspect the differences in sound quality are pretty minimal, and what I'd really like to see first is a computer-based room-correction plugin for SS. Cheers for the explanation, makes sence, did a little reading on the special cable, I guess its the same

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Full-sized, heavy case with a wider display to reduce scrolling, heavy-duty linear power supply, socket for heavy-duty AC cord of choice. Improved analog and digital sections. Larger memory buffer. $800-$1000 -- Pale Blue Ego

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread Mike Anderson
Personally, I'm quite happy running my SB2 into a Benchmark 1. Anything capable of beating it would probably be pretty expensive, and I seriously doubt I'd drop the $$ on those kinds of diminishing returns. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread Loftprojection
opaqueice Wrote: Yeah, I agree. If I were SD, at this point I would concentrate on software, interface and advertising rather than hardware. The hardware is already good enough to get positive reviews from hard-core audiophiles - so it's more than good enough for most people. On the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread cbemoore
Read what Sean (Slim Devices CEO) has to say about I2S: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=113777highlight=i2s#post113777 -- cbemoore cbemoore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=163

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread ScottMayo
I take the optical out of my SB3 into a Bryston preamp/processor, which has quite a decent DAC in it already. I never use the other outs. Most audiophiles who care about DACs already have bought their favorite in one form or another, for use with other audio sources; why put an exotic one in the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-15 Thread opaqueice
cbemoore Wrote: Read what Sean (Slim Devices CEO) has to say about I2S: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=113777highlight=i2s#post113777 In the I2S standard there are two options (they might be called level 1 and 2 - I forget). The easier option is to have the clock in the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-14 Thread ezkcdude
There's been (many) other threads covering this very topic. My thoughts, briefly, are that an audiophile SB3 would cost well over $1000. Anything less, and it won't be considered high-end enough. Anyone not already satisfied with the SB3 and using an external DAC is probably not going to be

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: An audiophile forum without an Audiophile SB!!! Let's define our needs!

2006-06-14 Thread opaqueice
You may also find near total disagreement on what people would want. Personally, I would want the exact opposite of what you asked - I think a high-quality internal DAC in the SB is much preferable to an external DAC (for reasons under discussion in the other thread), and so I'd like to see