Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-12-21 Thread Martin43
Phil Leigh;373719 Wrote: It can handle 96kHz... but not out of the box... there's a thread elsewhere on how to do this... I've never heard this popping and I dont believe there is a firmware issue here. I didn't think of it but maybe a better explanation is that I have some FLAC-files

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-12-20 Thread Martin43
I got my Squeezebox v3 yesterday. It's perfect (except it doesn't handle 96khz). I have also heard very short pops or bursts of hard noise for 2/10 of a second in the right channel only. This has occurred 3 times now, out of 4-5 hours of playback. The buffer is not near empty when it happens and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-12-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Martin43;373479 Wrote: I got my Squeezebox v3 yesterday. It's perfect (except it doesn't handle 96khz). I suspect there might be some kind of bug in the Squeezebox firmware.It can handle 96kHz... but not out of the box... there's a thread elsewhere on how to do this... I've never

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-22 Thread Thanaset
Phil Leigh;351550 Wrote: That pretty much nails it for me - sounds like there may be a tiny fault (probably a bad electrolytic capacitor) on the right channel of the Numerik output stage. If the popping was on both channels that would have probably indicated a different problem. Good

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanaset;352093 Wrote: Hi Phil I hope you get this message. After a long conversation on the phone, my dealer agreed to send a courier to pick the Numerik up tomorrow. I had to try really hard to convince him that there is something wrong with the Numerik. He said he will ask an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-22 Thread Thanaset
Phil Leigh;352102 Wrote: However, while it is away/before they collect it you could try connecting the SB to the Cyrus via its analogue outputs (removethe Numerik completely) and see if the popping is still there... that would indicate a problem in the amp (unlikely). Thanks for a very

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Thanaset
Hello Has anyone here experienced this? I've got my SB3 coupled with Linn Numerik, which I just got a couple of days ago, using coaxial digital interconnect. The pair then feed through Cyrus pre and powers. I notice that whenever I change the source at the pre I hear a little audible pop

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanaset;351518 Wrote: Hello Has anyone here experienced this? I've got my SB3 coupled with Linn Numerik, which I just got a couple of days ago, using coaxial digital interconnect. The pair then feed through Cyrus pre and powers. I notice that whenever I change the source at the pre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread seanadams
SB3 has DC blocking caps of course, but it does not have resistors to keep the output at 0V if there's no load. The vast majority of preamps have some input resistance which does this. This subject has come up before, and I forget the details but somehow we ended up with the conclusion that not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Thanaset
Phil Leigh;351527 Wrote: Based on what you have written it would appear that the Numerik may have a small DC offset on its analogue output. The issue is not with the SB. This isn't usual with Linn gear, but it is possible that the Numerik may have a faulty output cap that should be blocking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Thanaset
seanadams;351529 Wrote: SB3 has DC blocking caps of course, but it does not have resistors to keep the output at 0V if there's no load. The vast majority of preamps have some input resistance which does this. This subject has come up before, and I forget the details but somehow we ended up

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread seanadams
Please disregard my previous post. I missed the fact that you are using s/pdif and thought this was some other issue. I agree with Phil that the Numerik is suspect here. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanaset, how exactly is your system wired? is it: SB3 - coax spdif - Numerik - analogue out - Cyrus? You don't have the SB also connected to the Cyrus via its analogue outputs as well do you? Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Thanaset
Phil Leigh;351536 Wrote: Thanaset, how exactly is your system wired? is it: SB3 - coax spdif - Numerik - analogue out - Cyrus? You don't have the SB also connected to the Cyrus via its analogue outputs as well do you? Phil Phil That's right -- just like what you said (SB3 - coax spdif

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Phil Leigh
OK - then if I'm understanding correctly, with the SB turned off the Numerik will be muting its output as a good DAC should, in the absence of any spdif input. So you won't get any popping if there is a fault in the Numerik output stage while the SB is off. I really feel you should get the unit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Thanaset
Phil Leigh;351546 Wrote: OK - then if I'm understanding correctly, with the SB turned off the Numerik will be muting its output as a good DAC should, in the absence of any spdif input. So you won't get any popping if there is a fault in the Numerik output stage while the SB is off. I really

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanaset;351548 Wrote: Phil Thank you for your response. The popping comes out from only the right channel. I am not very technical so don't really know how to measure DC across the output. I will speak to my dealer tomorrow if you really think that there is something wrong with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Thanaset
Phil Leigh;351550 Wrote: That pretty much nails it for me - sounds like there may be a tiny fault (probably a bad electrolytic capacitor) on the right channel of the Numerik output stage. If the popping was on both channels that would have probably indicated a different problem. Good

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Making Pop Sound through Speakers

2008-10-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanaset;351561 Wrote: Phil Thanks for all you help. Last question: can the SB3 be fitted with a clock input? If so, then it is possible to sync it with the Numerik then? Thanaset yes...and yes! You will need to find a company or friend who can do it though. The benefits are very