Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Leigh
DCtoDaylight;423131 Wrote: > No This 6dB per bit stuff, is about all linear encoding. Every > additional bit of information, buy's you an extra 6dB of signal to noise > ratio. That's why 16 bit CD's have a maximum potential SNR of 96 dB, > while 24 bit audio has a maximum of 144 dB. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-13 Thread DCtoDaylight
Phil Leigh;423037 Wrote: > This 6dB per bit stuff is all about 16-bit not 24!!! No This 6dB per bit stuff, is about all linear encoding. Every additional bit of information, buy's you an extra 6dB of signal to noise ratio. That's why 16 bit CD's have a maximum potential SNR of 96 dB, whil

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Leigh
Wombat;422945 Wrote: > As soon you use the Transporters volume it opperates at 24bit afaik, so > don't worry about loosing few bits. Exactly. The 24-bit control in the TP/SB3/Receiver is very good. This 6dB per bit stuff is all about 16-bit not 24!!! Don't sweat it. The best sound you will g

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-13 Thread Wombat
As soon you use the Transporters volume it opperates at 24bit afaik, so don't worry about loosing few bits. -- Wombat Transporter -> RG142 -> Avantgarde based monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Pro

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-12 Thread dekaliber
pfarrell;422880 Wrote: > > Ignore the claims of fidelity loss, its idiotic to connect any > computer > to an amp while relying on the computer for speaker/amp protection > from > excess signal. Set the gain to work with the TP (or SB3 or whatever) > running WFO without damage to your amp or spea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-12 Thread Pat Farrell
dekaliber wrote: > One of the things they mention is that you it loses some fidelity if > turned below maximum output, which suggests that plugging directly into > an amp may not be such a good idea. You trust TAS on something technical? Dream on. They review things as being more chocolate, or mo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-12 Thread dekaliber
Just borrowed a coworker's copy of TAS and read their review of the Transporter over lunch. One of the things they mention is that you it loses some fidelity if turned below maximum output, which suggests that plugging directly into an amp may not be such a good idea. -- dekaliber ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-11 Thread dennis55
Good morning Ligald,my Transporter is connected to my Preamp via Linn Silver interconnects (RCA)unbalanced. my preamplifier(Timpano); is from a German audio company called Bonnec Audiosystemes. they are hand built units and have a very low noise floor. my other audio components are connected to th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-10 Thread ligald
Hi Dennis, How is your Transporter connected to the power amp, with RCA or XLR? What kind of passive attenuation are you using? I had mine connected via RCA (with built-in attenuation) and I'm upgrading to XLR by adding external attenuators (I just ordered Endler's ones) and I'm very curious to s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-10 Thread dennis55
hello ligald,looking at your setup which is similar to my own i would not describe them as a "high end" system products. Linn and Naim do high end/expensive streamers. i've never sought a so called high end setup which normally cost many thousands !. i'm very happy with my modest setup Ligald,as y

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-10 Thread ligald
Hi, Before buying my final setup, I was really interested in Parasound and I auditioned the combo A21/P3; I was really disappointed. As the A21 really has an excellent reputation, I think that the problem came from the pre-amplifier. This experience definitively convinced me to go into a pre-am

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-10 Thread dekaliber
One issue I just realized is that since my home theater plays through the same fronts as my 2-channel listening, I do still need a pre-amp...in my case, the integrated amp. If I ever build a dedicated 2-channel setup in the future I might go this route though. I had auditioned some Parasound Hal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-10 Thread ligald
Hi, I just bought a new system with the Transporter plugged directly into the power amplifier and I can only highly encourage you to do the same. Having a high-end system, the result is simply superb! The shortest is the signal path, the better is the sound quality. Furthermore you'll save the ex

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-07 Thread Andy8421
I think as a general rule, the less 'stuff' you have between the source and the speakers, the better off you will be. I have a Krell setup, which uses balanced connections throughout. I tried using the transporter direct to the poweramp via balanced, and managed to convince myself that it sounde

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-07 Thread dekaliber
I've heard positive reports of plugging a Transporter straight into a power amp, bypassing a preamp entirely. Assuming you had a decent pre or an integrated amp, would it be advantageous to take advantage of that? Or would that extra step most likely degrade the signal? -- dekaliber -