Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Nicky726
Angel Velasquez wrote: > Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted > without reason Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote: Angel Velasquez wrote: Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted without reason Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky Actually, I think your e-mail client is misconfigured/broken somehow; let's debug. It loo

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 23:06, Nicky726 wrote: > If I may add my two cents, I would go for GPL for PKGBUILDs, as it ensures > stuff remains OSS. Though some broader discussion/voting may be good. And a > compromise in form of selection from OSS licences when uploading, defaulting > to one could not

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 09:35, Isaac Dupree wrote: > On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote: >> >> Angel Velasquez wrote: >>> >>> Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted >>> without reason >> >> Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( >> Nicky > > Actually, I th

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
I think Creative Commons is a good choice for PKGBUILDs in AUR. It can be almost as permissible as public domain while still valid in most jurisdictions (actually I don't know any where it isn't). Or on a less serious side WTFPL [1] or Poetic License [2] can be used [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wi

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Sebastian Wiesner
2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : > I think Creative Commons is a good choice for PKGBUILDs in AUR. It can > be almost as permissible as public domain while still valid in most > jurisdictions (actually I don't know any where it isn't). Creative Commons itself does not recommend CC licences for software

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 7 February 2011 11:22, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: > 2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : >> I think Creative Commons is a good choice for PKGBUILDs in AUR. It can >> be almost as permissible as public domain while still valid in most >> jurisdictions (actually I don't know any where it isn't). > > Creative

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Ray Rashif
2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : > I think most PKGBUILDs are too simple to be considered software. Simple or not, PKGBUILDs are scripts, and hence software. IMNSHO if you must apply a license to PKGBUILDs, it should be that of makepkg's OR the distribution's (for another distribution using makepkg and

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/2/6 Ray Rashif : > # Copyright 1999-2011 Gentoo Foundation > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 But Arch is a legal entity? Can we put "Arch" as the copyright holder?

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/2/7 Bernardo Barros : > 2011/2/6 Ray Rashif : >> # Copyright 1999-2011 Gentoo Foundation >> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 > > But Arch is a legal entity? Can we put "Arch" as the copyright holder? Whoever name is there, GPL seems just right, I think.

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 7 February 2011 11:58, Ray Rashif wrote: > 2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : >> I think most PKGBUILDs are too simple to be considered software. > > Simple or not, PKGBUILDs are scripts, and hence software. I don't think it matters whether PKGBUILDs are software or not. > Magnus Therming mentioned t

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Ray Rashif
2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : > I don't think it matters whether PKGBUILDs are software or not. It never did, but now it does :) > That sounds to me like saying "all bash scripts have to be under GPL, > because BASH is licensed under GPL". If you want to look at it that way, then sure.

[aur-general] Orphaned ruby packages

2011-02-07 Thread Massimiliano Torromeo
Hi, just wanted to notify that I am orphaning some ruby packages that I don't need anymore. I'll leave to the TUs the decision on what to do with them. I guess they could be deleted after a grace period if nobody wants to adopt them. Package list: ruby-cgi_multipart_eof_fix http://aur.archlinux.o

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 07 February 2011 11:23:01 Ray Rashif wrote: > 2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : > > I don't think it matters whether PKGBUILDs are software or not. > > It never did, but now it does :) > > > That sounds to me like saying "all bash scripts have to be under GPL, > > because BASH is licensed unde

Re: [aur-general] [Announcement] First public git repo of the complete AUR.

2011-02-07 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:43:59 -0500, Loui Chang wrote: You probably want to grab the tarballs, and extract what's in those. The next release of the AUR will only have tarballs and PKGBUILDs. The other files won't be extracted. Would it be possible to also extract .install scripts? I usually re

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:59, Peter Lewis wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011 11:23:01 Ray Rashif wrote: >> 2011/2/7 Lukáš Jirkovský : >> > I don't think it matters whether PKGBUILDs are software or not. >> >> It never did, but now it does :) >> >> > That sounds to me like saying "all bash scripts

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Nicky726
Dne pondělí 07 února 2011 10:35:19 jste napsal(a): > On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote: > > Angel Velasquez wrote: > >> Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted > >> without reason > > > > Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( > > Nicky > > Actually, I

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote: > Dne pondělí 07 února 2011 10:35:19 jste napsal(a): >> On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote: >> > Angel Velasquez wrote: >> >> Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted >> >> without reason >> > >> > Sorry, Re: somehow slipped o

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread PyroPeter
On 02/07/2011 11:06 AM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: I think Creative Commons is a good choice for PKGBUILDs in AUR. It can be almost as permissible as public domain while still valid in most jurisdictions (actually I don't know any where it isn't). There is a CC-license that waives all rights, and t

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Michael Witten
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 14:20, Ray Rashif wrote: > 2011/2/7 Cédric Girard : >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: >> >>> Err..it is as relaxed as the wiki. I don't see why any question about >>> ownership should arise. If someone wants to claim ownership and not be >>> willing to sh

Re: [aur-general] [Announcement] First public git repo of the complete AUR.

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sun 06 Feb 2011 17:52 -0600, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:58 PM, keenerd wrote: >> > On 2/6/11, Loui Chang wrote: >> >> You probably want to grab the tarballs, and extract what's in those. >> >> The next release of the

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Witten wrote: > See my gcc-svn PKGBUILD: > >http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24849 > > Nobody likes it anyway, so who cares! :-) > Dude please don't try to make any policy decisions on your own. We still haven't decided what the policy will be

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 14:03 +, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote: > > > > Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to them > > in > > the client and copy the subject of the particular message. Am I supposed to > > do > > it in a

[aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Martti Kühne
Hello official and inofficial maintainers and AUR devs. Following the discussion in aur-general, I think some automation could solve many issues at once here. Justin Davis' community-blacklist patch is an approach in about the right direction although in relation to the discussion concerning t

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : > > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership, > > but more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the > > author by a polite question? After all we are people, no

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Sunday, February 06, 2011 15:48:53 Bernardo Barros wrote: > Yes, but since you can't change a licence (from BSD to GPL), then > Apple can just download the entire Arch repository code to adapt and > use in their AppStore code, for example. Very unlikely, but possible > since you can use PKGBUILD

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > Sure you can change licenses if you own (Hold copyright to.) all the relevant > code involved. That's way OT, but I'm curious now... :-). Then if I did a BSD code that a company used in their proprietary code, and then I change it to GPL, what happens then? The company wi

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 07 February 2011 17:46:08 Bernardo Barros wrote: > 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > > Sure you can change licenses if you own (Hold copyright to.) all the > > relevant code involved. > > That's way OT, but I'm curious now... :-). > > Then if I did a BSD code that a company used in their proprie

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, February 07, 2011 11:46:08 Bernardo Barros wrote: > 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > > Sure you can change licenses if you own (Hold copyright to.) all the > > relevant code involved. > > That's way OT, but I'm curious now... :-). Well, it was in response to a reply in this thread a coupe days

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership, >> > but more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the >> > author by a polite question

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, February 07, 2011 12:22:41 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : > >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an > >> > ownership, but more like an authorship. Is it

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > On Monday, February 07, 2011 12:22:41 Ángel Velásquez wrote: >> 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : >> > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: >> >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : >> >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an >> >> > ownership, but

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ionuț Bîru
Ok, some of the messages from this thread started to became offtopic. Here is my 2 cents and consider this being my last message. We always had an unspoken rule about sending a "thank you" note but we are all humans and forgot. Have my word that I spoke with the members that forgot and this wo

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Bernardo Barros
Angel, If AUR is a sucessgul project, it is not because of this kind of language you use. Be friendly to your fellow Arch friends. I'm sure that if the other TU would share this language, another project similar to AUR would pop up elsewhere.

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Monday 07 February 2011 17:12:03 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > Ok please somebody bring a toy for the kid. > > I've repeated on *this* thread (several times) that a `courtesy note` > is in the most cases sent when a package is moved to binary form on > our official repos, and this should be enough,

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Angel, > > If AUR is a sucessgul project, it is not because of this kind of > language you use. Be friendly to your fellow Arch friends. I'm sure > that if the other TU would share this language, another project > similar to AUR would pop up

[aur-general] TU Resignation

2011-02-07 Thread Andrea Scarpino
Hi TUs, it's my time to leave the [community] repo. I orphaned more packages in the last year and now I orphan the rest: - choqok - quoauth - oxygen-gtk - rekonq - wtf Has been an honour to work with all you guys. Thank you all. -- Andrea

Re: [aur-general] TU Resignation

2011-02-07 Thread Ike Devolder
Op maandag 7 februari 2011 20:25:03 schreef Andrea Scarpino: > Hi TUs, > it's my time to leave the [community] repo. > > I orphaned more packages in the last year and now I orphan the rest: > - choqok > - quoauth > - oxygen-gtk > - rekonq > - wtf > > Has been an honour to work with all you guys.

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Michael Witten
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 09:29, Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Witten wrote: > >> See my gcc-svn PKGBUILD: >> >>    http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24849 >> >> Nobody likes it anyway, so who cares! :-) >> > > Dude please don't try to make any policy decisions

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ray Rashif
On 8 February 2011 03:23, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > Side note: > Although TUs are a great bunch, I don't think that's the main reason > why people use the AUR. :) As much as I'd like for this thread to die, because the main issue was settled very many replies ago (we all agree that it's bad and we

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Ray Rashif
On 8 February 2011 03:47, Michael Witten wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 09:29, Kaiting Chen wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Witten wrote: >> >>> See my gcc-svn PKGBUILD: >>> >>>    http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24849 >>> >>> Nobody likes it anyway, so who cares! :-)

Re: [aur-general] TU Resignation

2011-02-07 Thread Peter Lewis
Hi Andrea, On Monday 07 February 2011 19:25:03 Andrea Scarpino wrote: > Hi TUs, > it's my time to leave the [community] repo. Ah! Well, thanks for all your work. More time to focus on KDE in [extra], eh? :-D > I orphaned more packages in the last year and now I orphan the rest: > - choqok > - q

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Justin Davis
Not that I wouldn't mind the credit but it was Lukas Fleischer who implemented the official repo checking code and not me. He is also hosting the git repository for his branch of the AUR. Your idea sort of sounds like "retiring" a package to me. That seems like an interesting idea but I am not sur

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Nicky726
Dne Po 7. února 2011 16:31:22 Ng Oon-Ee napsal(a): > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 14:03 +, Magnus Therning wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote: > > > Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to > > > them in the client and copy the subject of the particu

Re: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

2011-02-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 23:13 +0100, Nicky726 wrote: > Dne Po 7. února 2011 16:31:22 Ng Oon-Ee napsal(a): > > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 14:03 +, Magnus Therning wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote: > > > > Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to >

[aur-general] Disown request

2011-02-07 Thread rafael ff1
Hi there. I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and *lib32-libidl2* to fix the PKGBUILDs to comply Multilib, but got no answer by email for 10 days now. I got it ready to upload. Please disown these 2 packages? Thanks

Re: [aur-general] Disown request

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: > Hi there. > > I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and *lib32-libidl2* > to > fix the PKGBUILDs to comply Multilib, but got no answer by email for 10 > days > now. I got it ready to upload. > Please disown these 2 packages? > >

Re: [aur-general] Disown request

2011-02-07 Thread rafael ff1
2011/2/7 Thomas S Hatch > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: > > > Hi there. > > > > I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and *lib32-libidl2* > > to > > fix the PKGBUILDs to comply Multilib, but got no answer by email for 10 > > days > > now. I got it ready to upl

Re: [aur-general] Disown request

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:28 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: > 2011/2/7 Thomas S Hatch > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM, rafael ff1 > wrote: > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and > *lib32-libidl2* > > > to > > > fix the PKGBUILDs to comply Multilib,

Re: [aur-general] Disown request

2011-02-07 Thread rafael ff1
2011/2/7 Thomas S Hatch > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:28 PM, rafael ff1 wrote: > > > 2011/2/7 Thomas S Hatch > > > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM, rafael ff1 > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > > > I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and > > *lib32-libidl2* > > >

[aur-general] Delete Request

2011-02-07 Thread Sara Fauzia
Please remove fbpdf: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46240 I've replaced it with fbpdf-git: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46304 I uploaded the package as fbpdf, but it is a git package, so to fix my mistake, I created the fbpdf-git package. Sara -- "Nothing is too wonderfu

Re: [aur-general] Delete Request

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas S Hatch
Deleted, thanks for letting us know!

[aur-general] AUR PKGBUILD Deletion Request

2011-02-07 Thread Slash
Greetings, The following packages need to be deleted: 1) ezquake-skins: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7069 2) ezquake-textures: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7068 These packages have a bunch of random, out of date, some no longer relevant assets, which should never have be

Re: [aur-general] AUR PKGBUILD Deletion Request

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Slash wrote: > Greetings, > > The following packages need to be deleted: > > 1) ezquake-skins: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7069 > > 2) ezquake-textures: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7068 > > These packages have a bunch of random, out of dat

Re: [aur-general] new aur mirror

2011-02-07 Thread keenerd
Comments were added last week, forgot to post that to the ML. Get them in JSON form at aur3.org/mirror/pkgname/comments.gz The new thing is uploads to AUR3. I was stuck on a few parts, like how to split a .sig from a .gpg (for single file uploads) and then after than how to PUT more than one fil

Re: [aur-general] AUR & Copyright

2011-02-07 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 13:47 -0600, Michael Witten wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 09:29, Kaiting Chen wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Witten wrote: > > > >> See my gcc-svn PKGBUILD: > >> > >>http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24849 > >> > >> Nobody likes it anyway, so