Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Anatol Pomozov
Hi On 2/3/14, 9:29 PM, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Anatol Pomozov anatol.pomo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It is sponsored by my co-worker and bright engineer David Reisner. My name is Anatol

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Xyne
Dave Reisner wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:49:48PM -0500, Daniel Micay wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Xyne
Sébastien Luttringer wrote: I do not mind to change it to the longer version $srcdir/foo if this is a recommended way to do, but first I want to know why it is recommended. Although it's not strictly recommended (we lack of official recommendation?), this way works in all cases. I have to

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 at 00:12:49, Xyne wrote: Dave Reisner wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:49:48PM -0500, Daniel Micay wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi everyone I

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Xyne
Lukas Fleischer wrote: Technically, that is correct. However, I am sure there are many other TUs volunteering to be the sponsor after having read the application and the discussion (me, for example). So I don't think it is a problem. If it makes feel anyone better, please run sed 's/David

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 05/02/2014 00:34, Xyne wrote: Lukas Fleischer wrote: Technically, that is correct. However, I am sure there are many other TUs volunteering to be the sponsor after having read the application and the discussion (me, for example). So I don't think it is a problem. If it makes feel anyone

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Anatol Pomozov
Hi On 2/4/14, 5:27 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: On 05/02/2014 00:34, Xyne wrote: Lukas Fleischer wrote: Technically, that is correct. However, I am sure there are many other TUs volunteering to be the sponsor after having read the application and the discussion (me, for example). So I

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Anatol Pomozov
Hi On 2/4/14, 5:27 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: On 05/02/2014 00:34, Xyne wrote: Lukas Fleischer wrote: Technically, that is correct. However, I am sure there are many other TUs volunteering to be the sponsor after having read the application and the discussion (me, for example). So I

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-04 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 5 February 2014 12:57, Anatol Pomozov anatol.pomo...@gmail.com wrote: I still need to understand why Arch community is split into two groups 'developers' and 'trusted users'. They seems have similar responsibilities: maintaining packages and developing Arch toolset. For historical reasons:

[aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Anatol Pomozov
Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It is sponsored by my co-worker and bright engineer David Reisner. My name is Anatol Pomozov, I grew up in Belarus but live in USA now. I am an open-source enthusiast who uses Linux since about 2005. I've been using several

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Daniel Micay
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Anatol Pomozov anatol.pomo...@gmail.com wrote: - add android-sdk-* packages. Current AUR packages download binaries and install binaries to /opt/bin. The binaries are 32-bit. Instead we should build SDK from sources and provide proper 64/32-bit binaries. This

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 03.02.2014 20:29, Daniel Micay wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Anatol Pomozov anatol.pomo...@gmail.com wrote: - add android-sdk-* packages. Current AUR packages download binaries and install binaries to /opt/bin. The binaries are 32-bit. Instead we should build SDK from sources and

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It is sponsored by my co-worker and bright engineer David Reisner. My name is Dave and I approve this message.

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: At my day job I work on Linux kernel development/support at a large server farm. My daily activity includes a lot of debugging, performance profiling, code archaeology both for linux kernel and in-house userspace code. Some of my

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:49:48PM -0500, Daniel Micay wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It is sponsored by my

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Daniel Micay
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Anatol Pomozov wrote: Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It is sponsored by my co-worker and bright engineer David Reisner. My name is Dave and

Re: [aur-general] TU application sponsored by David Reisner

2014-02-03 Thread Anatol Pomozov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Anatol Pomozov anatol.pomo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone I would like to apply for a Arch Trusted User position. It is sponsored by my co-worker and bright engineer David Reisner. My name is Anatol

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-27 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 at 00:32:08, Jonas Heinrich wrote: Hi ArchLinux community, I like to apply as TU, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer (aka CryptoCrack), since my passion and work for ArchLinux continues since half a decade and I really would like to get more involved into development and package

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-26 Thread Xyne
On 2014-01-24 19:53 +0100 carstene1ns wrote: *snip* several good points *snip* Becoming a TU is not like joining Cosa Nostra... it's not always for life. Some TUs inevitably find that real-life obligations eliminate the free time they once had to maintain packages and so the quality drops. We

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-25 Thread Михаил Страшун
I think it is a wrong assumption to say that having bad packages at time of application as no different that having those as an established user. Amount of attention spent to such stuff inevitably goes down as amount of load increases (and it stops being interesting/satisfying) so if there are

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-25 Thread Jonas Heinrich
On 01-22 21:59, Xyne wrote: [...] There are some nice PKGBUILDs there but so far the majority of what I have seen has been of poor quality. Most of us (the TUs) probably have at least one or two sub-standard PKGBUILDs lying around waiting to get flagged and updated, but overall there should

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-24 Thread carstene1ns
Am 22.01.2014 23:56, schrieb Balló György: [...] 2014/1/22 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: I don't want to discourage you from further contribution but I do not think that you are ready to be a TU. You should take some time to address the issues raised in this thread and then spend at least a few

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-24 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 25 January 2014 02:53, carstene1ns a...@carsten-teibes.de wrote: closing words: I know this reads in parts like a rant, but it is just to show you that also current TUs are not better in some aspects. Again it is not meant to blame speps (but seriously, just orphan some packages! :P) or

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-24 Thread Doug Newgard
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:53:19 +0100 From: a...@carsten-teibes.de To: aur-general@archlinux.org Subject: Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer Am 22.01.2014 23:56, schrieb Balló György: [...] 2014/1/22 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-22 Thread Xyne
On 2014-01-21 02:31 -0600 Doug Newgard wrote: Most of the packages get better over time and in my case, it's not possible to have 140 packages in perfect state at once. So I can perfectly update or fix 4 packages/day (sometimes more if I automatically scan for new releases with pkgcheck

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-22 Thread Balló György
2014/1/22 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: On 2014-01-21 02:31 -0600 Doug Newgard wrote: Most of the packages get better over time and in my case, it's not possible to have 140 packages in perfect state at once. So I can perfectly update or fix 4 packages/day (sometimes more if I automatically scan

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-21 Thread Doug Newgard
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:38:25 + From: o...@project-insanity.org To: aur-general@archlinux.org Subject: Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer On 01-20 17:55, Doug Newgard wrote

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-21 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 at 00:32:08, Jonas Heinrich wrote: Hi ArchLinux community, I like to apply as TU, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer (aka CryptoCrack), since my passion and work for ArchLinux continues since half a decade and I really would like to get more involved into development and package

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-21 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 at 09:31:41, Doug Newgard wrote: [...] Ok, so let's look at just that one. I must admit that I only had a look at very few packages before agreeing to the sponsorship. However I did advice Jonas to have a look at his packages and update the one's that are flagged

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-21 Thread Evgeniy Alekseev
Hi, On Monday 20 January 2014 23:32:08 Jonas Heinrich wrote: Hi ArchLinux community, I like to apply as TU, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer (aka CryptoCrack), since my passion and work for ArchLinux continues since half a decade and I really would like to get more involved into development and

[aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-20 Thread Jonas Heinrich
Hi ArchLinux community, I like to apply as TU, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer (aka CryptoCrack), since my passion and work for ArchLinux continues since half a decade and I really would like to get more involved into development and package maintaining. My name is Jonas (my public key [1]), I'm 23

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-20 Thread Doug Newgard
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:32:08 + From: o...@project-insanity.org To: aur-general@archlinux.org Subject: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer Hi ArchLinux community, I like to apply as TU, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer (aka

Re: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer

2014-01-20 Thread Jonas Heinrich
On 01-20 17:55, Doug Newgard wrote: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:32:08 + From: o...@project-insanity.org To: aur-general@archlinux.org Subject: [aur-general] TU application, sponsored by Lukas Fleischer Hi ArchLinux community, I like

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-29 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Welcome, congrats, merry Christmas and a happy New Year. :) - Alexander / xyproto

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-29 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Thanks for your contributions to Arch Linux and best of luck to you! -- Sincerely, Alexander Rødseth xyproto / TU

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-25 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On 23/12/2013 22:41, Martin Wimpress wrote: Hi, That's great news :-) I've got a lot on until December 29th but after that I will be able to complete the initial TU tasks. Looking forward to working with you all soon. Balló György ballog...@gmail.com wrote: The vote is over and

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-24 Thread Felix Yan
On Monday, December 23, 2013 21:41:59 Martin Wimpress wrote: Hi, That's great news :-) I've got a lot on until December 29th but after that I will be able to complete the initial TU tasks. Looking forward to working with you all soon. Welcome and Merry Christmas :) Regards, Felix Yan

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-23 Thread Balló György
The vote is over and the results are: Yes: 26 No: 2 Abstain: 1 This means that Martin is now a TU! Martin, welcome to the team, and happy holidays! :) -- György Balló Trusted User

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-23 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, That's great news :-) I've got a lot on until December 29th but after that I will be able to complete the initial TU tasks. Looking forward to working with you all soon. Balló György ballog...@gmail.com wrote: The vote is over and the results are: Yes: 26 No: 2 Abstain: 1 This means

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-23 Thread Maxime Gauduin
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Martin Wimpress martin+a...@flexion.orgwrote: Hi, That's great news :-) I've got a lot on until December 29th but after that I will be able to complete the initial TU tasks. Looking forward to working with you all soon. Balló György ballog...@gmail.com

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-22 Thread Ike Devolder
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 09:21:58AM +1300, Jonathan Conder wrote: Hi everyone, I've been pretty busy lately and haven't been able to find the time to fix bugs and keep my packages up-to-date. Lately I haven't actually been using any of the packages I maintain, so I think the time has come to

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-22 Thread Dustin Falgout
On 12/21/2013 01:12 PM, Balló György wrote: Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck! If nobody step up porting the alpm backend to PackageKit version 0.8 (huge work!), I'll drop the following packages from

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-22 Thread Dustin Falgout
On 12/22/2013 03:15 PM, Ike Devolder wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 08:12:10PM +0100, Balló György wrote: Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck! If nobody step up porting the alpm backend to PackageKit

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-22 Thread Balló György
2013/12/23 Dustin Falgout dus...@falgout.us: On 12/22/2013 03:15 PM, Ike Devolder wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 08:12:10PM +0100, Balló György wrote: Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck! If nobody

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-22 Thread Ike Devolder
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 05:32:19PM -0600, Dustin Falgout wrote: On 12/21/2013 01:12 PM, Balló György wrote: Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck! If nobody step up porting the alpm backend to

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-21 Thread Balló György
Sad news. You did a great job on maintaining PackageKit's alpm backend in the recent years. Thanks for your work, and good luck! If nobody step up porting the alpm backend to PackageKit version 0.8 (huge work!), I'll drop the following packages from the [community] repository in the next days: -

[aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-20 Thread Jonathan Conder
Hi everyone, I've been pretty busy lately and haven't been able to find the time to fix bugs and keep my packages up-to-date. Lately I haven't actually been using any of the packages I maintain, so I think the time has come to pass them on to someone with the time and motivation to maintain them.

Re: [aur-general] TU resignation

2013-12-20 Thread Florian Pritz
Thanks for all you did and all the best for whatever you do now. PS: I've created a ticket for key revocation and disabled the ssh account. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-16 Thread Balló György
2013/12/15 Martin Wimpress martin+a...@flexion.org: Hi, On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 02:16 +0100, Balló György wrote: I'm confirming my sponsorship. I think that the MATE desktop environment will be a great addition for Arch Linux, and Martin will be a great addition for the team. :) A

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-15 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 02:16 +0100, Balló György wrote: I'm confirming my sponsorship. I think that the MATE desktop environment will be a great addition for Arch Linux, and Martin will be a great addition for the team. :) A discussion period of 5 days has been started now. I've

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, Every package I maintain has been updated today taking into to account the feedback that has been provided in this discussion and the feedback Balló has sent to me directly. On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 23:18 +, Martin Wimpress wrote: Your PKGBUILDs look good overall but I noticed two

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi Martin, Thanks for applying! I think it's positive that you've got some experience under your belt. The randomly chosen AUR packages you maintain that I inspected looks well crafted, sound and healthy to me. Just from quickly browsing the Arch Installer on github, it looks promising too. I

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, I am fond of all the `git` commands mentioned in my blog about migrating Bazaar to Git. * http://flexion.org/posts/2012-10-migrating-bzr-to-git.html If I had to pick an absolute favourite `git` command then `git commit` but `git stash` is pretty handy. -- Regards, Martin. On Tue,

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Alexander Rødseth
git commit sounds like a fine choice of to me. :) But what's with the top posting? Is it a statement, or due to the choice of email client? I know some mobile email clients makes it hard not to top post. In any case, I think you have a fine application and wish you the best of luck in the rest

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Xyne
On 2013-12-10 18:27 + Martin Wimpress wrote: a great application Regards, Martin. Hi, That is a very nice application. It leaves no doubt concerning your skill and dedication (assuming that it's all true... Balló left carrying rubber gloves, so I expect that he was thorough in vetting

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 23:10 +0100, Alexander Rødseth wrote: git commit sounds like a fine choice of to me. :) But what's with the top posting? Is it a statement, or due to the choice of email client? I know some mobile email clients makes it hard not to top post. Not a statement. It

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Martin Wimpress
Hi, On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 22:14 +, Xyne wrote: That is a very nice application. It leaves no doubt concerning your skill and dedication (assuming that it's all true... Balló left carrying rubber gloves, so I expect that he was thorough in vetting you). Having someone from upstream

Re: [aur-general] TU application - Sponsored by Balló György

2013-12-10 Thread Balló György
2013. 12. 10, kedd keltezéssel 18.27-kor Martin Wimpress ezt írta: Hi, I'd like to submit my application to become a Trusted User. I've been sponsored by Balló György (aka City-busz). You can find my public key here: *

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH] Voting Period

2013-08-22 Thread Xyne
The proposed changes have been accepted. Final tally: yes: 27 no: 0 abstain: 4

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH 2/2] Add details on patch submissions

2013-08-21 Thread Xyne
On 2013-08-20 18:14 +0200 Lukas Fleischer wrote: +SVP is commenced at the time of the motion, with a discussion period of 5 days, +a quorum of 75%, and a voting period of 7 days. Use the same formulation as the Removal of a TU section: Following the motion, standard voting procedure commences

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH 2/2] Add details on patch submissions

2013-08-21 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:07:47PM +, Xyne wrote: On 2013-08-20 18:14 +0200 Lukas Fleischer wrote: +SVP is commenced at the time of the motion, with a discussion period of 5 days, +a quorum of 75%, and a voting period of 7 days. Use the same formulation as the Removal of a TU

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH 2/2] Add details on patch submissions

2013-08-21 Thread Dave Reisner
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 05:45:50PM +0200, Lukas Fleischer wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:07:47PM +, Xyne wrote: On 2013-08-20 18:14 +0200 Lukas Fleischer wrote: +SVP is commenced at the time of the motion, with a discussion period of 5 days, +a quorum of 75%, and a voting

[aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH 0/2] TU bylaws amendment

2013-08-20 Thread Lukas Fleischer
Ok, sending this before the voting period for Xyne's proposal is over since it is already clear that it will be accepted. More than 65% of all TUs voted yes and there are zero no votes so far :) The first patch is a follow-up to Xyne's proposal and is something he simply forgot when writing the

[aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH 2/2] Add details on patch submissions

2013-08-20 Thread Lukas Fleischer
* Mention the tu-bylaws.git repository. * Mention Git-formatted patches and subject keywords. * Promote `git send-email`. * Add note on submitting several patches at once. Signed-off-by: Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de --- tu-bylaws.txt | 23 +++ 1 file changed, 19

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH] Voting Period

2013-08-16 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 03:15:27PM +, Xyne wrote: Hi, The discussion period has ended. Please cast your votes: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=70 I know that it is a bit late for comments on the proposal but I just noticed that your patch doesn't seem to change the sentence mentioning

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH] Voting Period

2013-08-16 Thread Florian Pritz
On 16.08.2013 11:00, Lukas Fleischer wrote: Also, I just wondered whether it is okay to accept a proposal before the voting period ends? Currently, there are 19 yes votes, 37 TUs and there is no way the number of TUs can increase until the end of the proposal. No, people should be allowed to

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH] Voting Period

2013-08-16 Thread Xyne
On 2013-08-16 11:00 +0200 Lukas Fleischer wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 03:15:27PM +, Xyne wrote: Hi, The discussion period has ended. Please cast your votes: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=70 I know that it is a bit late for comments on the proposal but I just noticed that your

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH] Voting Period

2013-08-15 Thread Xyne
Hi, The discussion period has ended. Please cast your votes: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=70 Regards, Xyne

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-13 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:29:42AM +, Xyne wrote: [...] Patch follows: I put that patch on a separate branch (proposal-70) in the official TU bylaws repository [1], so that it is easier for people to extract the actual commit and review the changes in the way they prefer. I think it is a

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-12 Thread Xyne
Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: I can't obviously comment on grammar as I'm not a native speaker, so I have just a single comment. I think it may be better to split this into two commits, one containing the little changes like referring to trusted users as TUs or explicitly mentioning the aur-general and

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-11 Thread Xyne
Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 9 August 2013 19:29, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: ... * remove distinction between active and inactive TUs So now what happens when so-called active or inactive TUs do not vote and prevent quorum from being established? No action is taken? I see these changes cover

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-11 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 11 August 2013 18:29, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: The current by-laws try to automate a process that requires human discretion. This version retains automation for extreme cases and relies on human discretion for the rest. Alright, this justifies those changes. Good to go on the rest,

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-11 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 9 August 2013 13:29, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Hi, Here's a patch for the TU-bylaws that resulted from discussion in the previous thread: I can't obviously comment on grammar as I'm not a native speaker, so I have just a single comment. I think it may be better to split this into two

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-10 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: done In case anyone is wondering, the message seems to still be awaiting moderation. I had attached the resulting docs for those who like to read plaintext. My system reported them as under 40k so I thought it would go through, but the encoding bumped it up to 42k. Sorry for the

[aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-10 Thread Xyne
Hi, Here's a patch for the TU-bylaws that resulted from discussion in the previous thread: https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2013-August/024745.html I hope this is in the correct format. I haven't used git send-email because I still haven't configured it and didn't want to

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-10 Thread Florian Pritz
On 08/10/2013 09:15 AM, Xyne wrote: In case anyone is wondering, the message seems to still be awaiting moderation. This list is not activly moderated afaik. I'm just letting through your messages whenever you post about them so this discussion can go on. I'm not going to do any more

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws][PATCH]

2013-08-10 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 9 August 2013 19:29, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: ... * remove distinction between active and inactive TUs So now what happens when so-called active or inactive TUs do not vote and prevent quorum from being established? No action is taken? I see these changes cover disappearing TUs, but not

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-09 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 02:16:56PM +, Xyne wrote: Lukas Fleischer wrote: Ok. The first idea is simple to implement: When a new proposal (the proposal type doesn't really matter) is created, generate a list of current TUs and save it. If an applicant/TU is added to the proposal, this user

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-09 Thread Xyne
On 2013-08-09 10:26 +0200 Lukas Fleischer wrote: +1 from me. I think you should start a new proposal. Please send this as an inline patch, adding [tu-bylaws] to the subject line -- like I did. People usually do not want to re-read the whole bylaws and exporting the attached file just to create a

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-08 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 06:50:36PM +, Xyne wrote: [...] The distinction between active and inactive TUs is meaningless and should be removed from the bylaws, including the definition of quorum. Quorum will therefore be some fixed percent of all TUs. As stated in this thread, up to 1 in 3

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-08-08 Thread Martti Kühne
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 09:33:34AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: [...] It's a German idiom. http://www.dict.cc/?s=nicht+so+hei%C3%9F+gegessen A recent research I made on this topic made it pretty clear to me that the German idiom is a well-integrated Hungarian import. cheers! mar77i

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-08 Thread Xyne
Lukas Fleischer wrote: +1. However, I would like to retain the repeated quorum offense condition. If there are a couple of TUs that work on the AUR (as in uploading, updating and deleting packages) and do not participate in SVPs, they might block decisions. I think that it is important to make

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-08 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: Lukas Fleischer wrote: The clause should probably also specify that removal votes take precedence over any other pending votes except removal votes. What does this mean in practice? :) Let's say that the discussion period for a TU application begins and the vote is scheduled to

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-07 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 04:54:41AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 6 August 2013 20:19, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: On

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
Sébastien Luttringer wrote: The question we have to answer is : How many TU are necessary to have a motion pass. Set the quorum to this value and _stop_ cheating by : - creating more valid voters than others (the active) - find ways to ignore the quorum is not reach (so the vote has no meaning)

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-06 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 08:24:20AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 6 August 2013 05:53, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: Instead of counting the number of active TUs when a vote begins, update the number whenever a TU becomes active/inactive during a voting period. What

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-06 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 08:24:20AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 6 August 2013 05:53, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: Any other opinions? Yes, we should drop completely the active statement.

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-06 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 08:24:20AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 6 August 2013 05:53, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote:

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-06 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 6 August 2013 20:19, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 08:24:20AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote:

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-06 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 7 August 2013 04:54, Rashif Ray Rahman sc...@archlinux.org wrote: I think we need more opinions. Xyne? Anyway, if anyone's looking for some bylaw amendment history: https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2007-December/000127.html

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-06 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 04:54:41AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 6 August 2013 20:19, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote:

[aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-05 Thread Lukas Fleischer
Instead of counting the number of active TUs when a vote begins, update the number whenever a TU becomes active/inactive during a voting period. This is a more accurate measure since everyone who is active at some point in time during the voting period is (technically) able to vote.

Re: [aur-general] [tu-bylaws] [PATCH] Honor TUs who become active/inactive during votes

2013-08-05 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 6 August 2013 05:53, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.de wrote: Instead of counting the number of active TUs when a vote begins, update the number whenever a TU becomes active/inactive during a voting period. What happens when a TU becomes inactive after casting a vote? Would her vote

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-30 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi, I sneak-voted with a mobile phone while temporarily inactive and on vacation. - Alexander / xyproto

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-27 Thread Xyne
Martti Kühne wrote: things won't be eaten as hot as they were cooked here. Off-topic: I thought that was a really nice expression. Is it idiomatic where you're from? Regards, Xyne

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 07:04 +, Xyne wrote: Martti Kühne wrote: things won't be eaten as hot as they were cooked here. Off-topic: I thought that was a really nice expression. Is it idiomatic where you're from? It's a German idiom. http://www.dict.cc/?s=nicht+so+hei%C3%9F+gegessen

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-27 Thread Xyne
On 2013-07-27 09:33 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 07:04 +, Xyne wrote: Martti Kühne wrote: things won't be eaten as hot as they were cooked here. Off-topic: I thought that was a really nice expression. Is it idiomatic where you're from? It's a German idiom.

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-27 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 20.07.2013 15:48, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 15.07.2013 22:31, Dicebot wrote: [sponsor : Sven-Hendrik Haase] [AUR account : https://aur.archlinux.org/account/Dicebot] [IRC : Dicebot @ irc.freenode.net] Hello, Long story short - I am insterested in becoming a Trusted User

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-27 Thread Felix Yan
On Saturday, July 27, 2013 18:31:23 Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 20.07.2013 15:48, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 15.07.2013 22:31, Dicebot wrote: [sponsor : Sven-Hendrik Haase] [AUR account : https://aur.archlinux.org/account/Dicebot] [IRC : Dicebot @ irc.freenode.net]

Re: [aur-general] TU application

2013-07-27 Thread Maxime GAUDUIN
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Felix Yan felixonm...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, July 27, 2013 18:31:23 Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 20.07.2013 15:48, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 15.07.2013 22:31, Dicebot wrote: [sponsor : Sven-Hendrik Haase] [AUR account :

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