Re: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread JR
I still do JR - Original Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels Hi JR, How long did you fly in a dinner suit with

[Aus-soaring] Horsham Week 2007

2007-02-12 Thread Ben Loxton
G'day All, The final results for Horsham week 2007 are now up on the website. I have also posted a heap of Pics in the pictures section.. Enjoy! http://www.printerschoice.com.au/horsham2007/Default.htm Blue Skys, Ben ___ Aus-soaring mailing list

Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007

2007-02-12 Thread Nick Gilbert
G'Day Bernard. I can't give you firm dates, but I can tell you that the comp will begin just before new years (after christmas obviously) and finish in early january. Nick. On 2/13/07, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Nick We are soon going to have a coaches meetin

RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007

2007-02-12 Thread Future Aviation Pty. Ltd.
Hi Nick We are soon going to have a coaches meeting where we set the date for the next SA coaching week at Waikerie. I'm trying to avoid a clash and therefore I would appreciate if you could let us have firm dates for the next junior nationals? Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412

Re: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spintrainingtoagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread David and Justine Olsen
It is increasingly difficult to find anywhere you actually "need" 4wd these days. I think that is one opportunity a business like mine relies upon. Nothing wrong with softroaders. I've taken some pretty soft cars through the Simpson Desert. ___ Aus

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spintrainingtoagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
Dave the way I am reading your definition a 4WD is defined more by ground clearance than the number of wheels doing the driving - interesting. Provided it can carry all my gliding gear and tow my trailer into and out of any paddock to retrieve when I out land I don't need a monster truck (m

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training to agerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread Derek Ruddock
Lexus have a hybrid petrol/electric 4WD See http://www.lexus.com/models/RXh/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 10:11 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australi

[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007

2007-02-12 Thread Nick Gilbert
Hi All, *JoeyGlide is seeking a new home.* We have a few irons in the fire already, but are interested in expressions of interest from gliding clubs that are interested in hosting the contest. Here is a very brief rundown on criteria : Must Haves: - Must be reasonably central (sorry Western Aus

Re: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Hi JR, How long did you fly in a dinner suit with trouser cuffs and carry the briefcase before you woke up? - Original Message - From: JR To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Determinin

Re: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Jo said: "Logbooks are probably a bit more reliable than what state your hair is in". Lovely to hear Jo, will you marry me? My wife, of nearly 40 years, spends more on her hair than I do on gliding. Nothing, absolutely nothing, will turn out right unless your hair is alright y'know. :-)

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training to age related topics

2007-02-12 Thread Emilis Prelgauskas
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:11:19 +1100, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote: >I thought a Hybrid was one of those funny cars that have both an >electric and >a petrol engine   For those wanting to chat about the all terrain capabilities of hybrids (and their ability to power homes) talk to me off li

RE: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
While log books would be more reliable as a measure of experience, it is also true that the "grey hair" assumption is not too bad either (particularly in gliding, sadly). The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong - but that's the way to bet. Damon Runyan" :-) Regard

Re: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin trainingtoagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread David and Justine Olsen
On 13/02/2007, at 7:36 AM, Allan Armistead wrote:  there is a "macho" element that drives "real" four wheel drives on "great bush adventures" and tends to look somewhat disparagingly at the "soft roaders" who drive from home to the school Monday to Friday and to the coffee shop on Saturday. So you

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin trainingtoagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread Allan Armistead
As others have suggested, I think it is really a marketing, vague distinction. But my perception (pulling on the flame suit) is that there is a "macho" element that drives "real" four wheel drives on "great bush adventures" and tends to look somewhat disparagingly at the "soft roaders" who drive fr

Re: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin trainingtoagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread David and Justine Olsen
By current definitions yes Mr Toyota was wrong :-) But the language of marketing is well ...fluffy shall we say On 12/02/2007, at 10:22 PM, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote: David – it is all marketing B/S – the attached photo was of the side panel of a car I once owned, it clearly says 4

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin trainingtoagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
David - it is all marketing B/S - the attached photo was of the side panel of a car I once owned, it clearly says 4WD but by your definition it would be an AWD - was Mr Toyota wrong? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David and Justine Olsen Sent: Mon

Re: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training toagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread David and Justine Olsen
Apart from your not 4 wheels version, an AWD cannot select 2WD a 4WD can On 12/02/2007, at 9:51 PM, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote: Allan – I am confused – when is an AWD not a 4WD - unless it has more than 4 wheels of course? SDF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training to age related topics

2007-02-12 Thread David and Justine Olsen
It is, But hybrid is often used to describe smart 4wd systems that engage and disengage themselves according to traction. On 12/02/2007, at 9:11 PM, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote: I thought a Hybrid was one of those funny cars that have both an electric and a petrol engine, usually about

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training toagerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
Allan - I am confused - when is an AWD not a 4WD - unless it has more than 4 wheels of course? SDF _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Armistead Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 10:19 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sub

RE: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread Allan Armistead
Oh, and as the one who inadvertently kicked off this topic, I should say that at my first club (Sunraysia) I was fortunate to be taught by two very good female instructors, one of whom (Mardi Gething) had been a ferry pilot during WWII and had all sorts of wonderful aircraft in her logbooks, that m

[Aus-soaring] Re: hosses

2007-02-12 Thread Wayne Carter
Forgive me, Ms Conway, but do we now assume the rest of the country practices "un-natural horsemanship" ? (Horsepersonship, sorry Jo) Wayne Oh dont bother, I am only joking Good luck with the beds and weather ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@l

Re: [Aus-soaring] help

2007-02-12 Thread Ben Jones
Sure, The group could help you in any way possible, but could you narrow down your request ? *-) Ben - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] help ___ Aus-soari

RE: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread Allan Armistead
Ah, the pitfalls of making assumptions. You are assuming my only measure of "experience" is hours in the log book. But life experience can be just as - or more - important than numbers in a book. Allan Armistead ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911 PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia "Whe

[Aus-soaring] help

2007-02-12 Thread wrightsc
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RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training to agerelated topics

2007-02-12 Thread Allan Armistead
Well it certainly wasn't a Toyota Prius so it wasn't a hybrid And I was driving an AWD and it wasn't me So by a process of elimination from the choices you've given me it was a 4WD Allan Armistead ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911 PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia "When once you ha

RE: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training to age related topics

2007-02-12 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
I thought a Hybrid was one of those funny cars that have both an electric and a petrol engine, usually about Corolla size - do they make 4WD hybrids and can you do an out landing retrieve in one in NSW without the local Bush Fire brigade in tow - there is a topic in it self. SDF. _

Re: [Aus-soaring] Determining experience levels

2007-02-12 Thread JR
Are there women in gliding ? jeez no-one told me that when I joined, I thought it was gunna be like the 3 masons.. JR - Original Message - From: Davis, Jo To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring]

Spin training was Re: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not spin...

2007-02-12 Thread Peter Stephenson
MessageThe natural reaction for a person in a spin is to keep pulling back on the stick because the nose of the a/c is pointing at the ground. It is hard to do the opposite of what is a natural action to correct the situation without having some hands on experience. It is a bit like when on