Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider hire World Junior Comps

2009-11-24 Thread Robert Moore
Oops not meant for the list but if any pilots would be interested in hiring there gliders to Juniors for the world comps in 2013 please let Gus Stewart Know at Gus At 03:24 PM 25/11/2009, you wrote: Gus, some months ago I notice you were calling for any pilots interested in loaning glider out

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Peter F Bradshaw
Hi Bob; There is already a Web forum at: http://www.gliderforum.com/ I have been using email forums sice the 1980s. So you are right - it is so 20th century. But it is so much more efficient than a Web based forum. P.S. I think you will find that there is not much activity on the Web forum giv

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Dave Donald
No probs - probably tonight. Regards, Dave From: "opsw...@bigpond.net.au" To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Dave Donald Sent: Wed, 25 November, 2009 2:26:55 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching Could I have the p

[Aus-soaring] Glider hire World Junior Comps

2009-11-24 Thread Robert Moore
Gus, some months ago I notice you were calling for any pilots interested in loaning glider out for a World Junior Gliding event if we should procure one in Australia, did you have any respondents or did it fall on deaf ears. I know Mike is your line manager in this event but as the sports Com

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread opsworx
Could I have the photo's as well Thanks peter heath opsw...@bigpond.net.au Dave Donald wrote: > Got some at home Cath - will send to your email address tonight. Dave From: Catherine Conway To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Austra

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Gus Stewart
If some of you remember, I tried an aus-soaring forum a few years ago. It even had an aus-soaring.com.au domain name. To get people in, I wrote a script that would "gank" all emails on this list and put it the forum, so the content was synchronised. However, as people have rightly pointed out, log

[Aus-soaring] car launching

2009-11-24 Thread ventus45
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Re: [Aus-soaring] List V forum

2009-11-24 Thread emilis prelgauskas
On 25/11/2009, at 9:08 AM, David Lawley wrote: I tried to raise the subject some years while ago, and got nowhere. I now try to think of it as delightfully rustic Or set up and operate (& pay for) a forum yourself ___ Aus-soaring mailing li

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Dave Donald
The glider drops the rope - there is no parachute - and it falls in a straight line behind the launch vehicle. Very little lay-off is required. Since there is a pulley under the launch vehicle the rope (going towards the fixed pulley) continues to feed through the fixed pulley and the launch veh

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Dave Donald
Got some at home Cath - will send to your email address tonight. Dave From: Catherine Conway To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wed, 25 November, 2009 12:02:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching Any pics Dave?

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Peter Stephenson
Dave Donald wrote: At Boonah we use an Auto-tow system with a 2-to-1 reduction and rope. The rope goes from the glider, around a fixed pulley (fixed in the ground but spins), under the F250 which has a pulley mounted horizontally and then back to a fixed point (the bottom of the fixed pulley

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Catherine Conway
Any pics Dave? -Cath On 25/11/2009, at 9:41 AM, Dave Donald wrote: > At Boonah we use an Auto-tow system with a 2-to-1 reduction and rope. The > rope goes from the glider, around a fixed pulley (fixed in the ground but > spins), under the F250 which has a pulley mounted horizontally and then

Re: [Aus-soaring] (no subject)

2009-11-24 Thread L Simpkins
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[Aus-soaring] Gliding Queensland - 2010 Easter Competition

2009-11-24 Thread Kevin Rodda
Caboolture Gliding Club is again hosting this friendliest of competitions at Chinchilla Airfield from Good Friday 02-Apr-10 to Saturday10-Apr-09. The aim is to run a fun, safe event for competitors of all levels, with satisfying challenges for seasoned pilots, on-task lear

[Aus-soaring] Temora airspace activation this weekend

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Cleaver
FYI there will be display flying at the Temora Aviation Museum this coming weekend with a Restricted Area during the displays and a Danger Area 0900 - 1700 local time Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Temora Gliding Club does not operate during there three days and requests other glider pilots to a

Re: [Aus-soaring] coloured markings

2009-11-24 Thread anthony . smith
I do recall once seeing an SZD Pirat which had very large areas of flouro orange on it. It was eye watering up close. You certainly could positively identify it from a long way away. Despite having bright or obvious markings, you still need to look out. One of the (less

Re: [Aus-soaring] Cambridge Connection Problem

2009-11-24 Thread John Orton
Hi Adam, >From my experience that looks like the logger is empty or a fault. Does the Cambridge software work with it? Regards, John Orton 2009/11/25 Adam Webb > Hi All, > > I am trying to connect a Cambridge GPS-NAV to SeeYou. When I connect the > logger to my laptop (via a USB-Serial bridg

Re: [Aus-soaring] Cambridge Connection Problem

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
Try using the Cambridge software. Mike At 10:03 AM 25/11/2009, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_006C_01CA6DBE.EB62B950" Content-Language: en-au Hi All, I am trying to connect a Cambridge GPS-NAV to SeeYou. When I connect the logger to my l

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 74, Issue 64

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Bart
Cheers * * David Lawley to aus-soaring > Nah, saw them thoroughly debunked as any kind of evidence late last week. > Given that there was approximately 157MB of unzipped data they must have got a real wriggle on to "thoroughly debunk" it all. Wish they put that effort into collecting and interp

[Aus-soaring] coloured markings

2009-11-24 Thread Ann Woolf
I believe the red nose and wingtips were painted on the white fibreglass gliders in Europe to enable them to be seen against snow - mainly in the mountains for S&R. Whilst flying in Austria, a Ka6e was lost and because it was all white, was not located for about 3 days. It was only 2-3 kms fr

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
I noticed in the press the other day that Internode got praise for the quality of it's ISP sevice ahead of all the rest. - Original Message - From: "Catherine Conway" To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: R

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 09:48 AM 25/11/2009, you wrote: You may also not be aware that Simon/Internode provides this for free as a service to the gliding community. One of many services provided by Internode. Have a look at the sponsorship for Joeyglide and the Multiclass Nationals. I also dislike web forums - th

[Aus-soaring] Cambridge Connection Problem

2009-11-24 Thread Adam Webb
Hi All, I am trying to connect a Cambridge GPS-NAV to SeeYou. When I connect the logger to my laptop (via a USB-Serial bridge by ATEN), seeyou finds the logger (in the connection wizzards first screen it appears in the "Connected to" section at the bottom). When I click next, the flights on the l

[Aus-soaring] Email Address or Phone Number

2009-11-24 Thread John Hudson
Anyone have an email address or phone number for Val Wilkinson at Warwick. Regards John Hudson ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailma

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Catherine Conway
You may also not be aware that Simon/Internode provides this for free as a service to the gliding community. One of many services provided by Internode. Have a look at the sponsorship for Joeyglide and the Multiclass Nationals. I also dislike web forums - this is much quicker to check an

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Bart
I presume so are you (20th century, that is). Does not mean it is bad. Personally I hate forums. Cheers Paul 2009/11/25 Bob Dircks > It seems I'm not doing it wrong, just that I've bbe spoilt by real forum > format. > > Would this group consider a change to a real forum ? > > This is 20th c

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Dave Donald
At Boonah we use an Auto-tow system with a 2-to-1 reduction and rope. The rope goes from the glider, around a fixed pulley (fixed in the ground but spins), under the F250 which has a pulley mounted horizontally and then back to a fixed point (the bottom of the fixed pulley) and attached by a sha

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Ben Jones
Not as long as my ass points to the ground. "real forums" are a pain in the freckle, I know I'm a member of a couple and you loose interest in having to log into a web page. besides as some one else has mentioned you have signed up for a "Mail list" too different beasts. regards Ben -

Re: [Aus-soaring] global warming etc

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 02:53 PM 24/11/2009, you wrote: Nah, saw them thoroughly debunked as any kind of evidence late last week. Less than 1% of the stolen hacked files were actually leaked. Those which do not suit the denialist agenda of the hackers did not appear-odd eh? There has been no confirmation that a

Re: [Aus-soaring] coloured markings

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Dircks
I was considering middle distance rather than far distance. Being able to determine the orientation of the glider quickly, rather than just being able to detect its presence. Bob ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or

Re: [Aus-soaring] List V forum

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Dircks
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM, David Lawley wrote: > > I agree Bob, but the current list maintainer, Mark Newton is firm in his > belief that this list is better than a threaded web forum. > Very firm it seems. > > I tried to raise the subject some years while ago, and got nowhere. > > I now

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread opsworx
Ron, I'm doing some work with synthetic helicopter long lines that have zero stretch so there is no stored energy in case they break. Will ask some questions about the rope suitability. it is far better than steel cables. Was looked at as an alternate for aerotow at a couple of nsw clubs. I

[Aus-soaring] List V forum

2009-11-24 Thread David Lawley
> From: Bob Dircks > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format > It seems I'm not doing it wrong, just that I've bbe spoilt by real forum > format. > > Would this group consider a change to a real forum ? > > This is 20th century stuff! I agree Bob, but the current list maintainer, Mark Newt

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Mark Newton
On 25/11/2009, at 8:55 AM, Bob Dircks wrote: > Would this group consider a change to a real forum ? No. - mark I tried an internal modem,new...@atdot.dotat.org but it hurt when I walked.

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Dircks
It seems I'm not doing it wrong, just that I've bbe spoilt by real forum format. Would this group consider a change to a real forum ? This is 20th century stuff! Bob On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Mark Newton wrote: > > > On 24/11/2009, at 22:35, Bob Dircks wrote: > > Am I doing it wrong ?

Re: [Aus-soaring] coloured markings

2009-11-24 Thread Colin Collyer
Hi All Re David L's note, my experience is just the opposite. I fly free flight, and seeing the models from a distance is important, as you can't time it if you can't see it. Generally dark colours on the bottom to stand out against sky, and bright colours on the top and 'sides' to stand out o

Re: [Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread cubley
Hi Ron, we did some reflex launching at Bacchus a while back (10-15 years?) and it was good fun. We used aerotow rope, approx 1000 feet if my memory is correct - the stretch meant that you could actually get (slightly) greater altitude than that. I can't remember the car speed as it took off

[Aus-soaring] coloured markings

2009-11-24 Thread David Lawley
Hi all, On the subject of visibility markings. Some years ago I found one of my comp F3B models hard to see at a distance in its all white paint scheme. I put large flurescent geen/orange and red stripes on the wing-and it made no difference. Even gliders with red noses and rudders are no

[Aus-soaring] Electric Fence

2009-11-24 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Surviving the wires of a fence seems to be not the only problem. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10611505___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://

Re: [Aus-soaring] markings

2009-11-24 Thread Wayne Carter
Welcome Bob, I believe part of the answer is that any inconsistencies to the smoothness of the high pressure (underside) of the wing will be highly detrimental to its efficiency. The solar panels you speak of are usually placed on an engine hatch or behind the pilot on the fuse, a low-pressure ar

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread ventus45
Battery power is an issue, but, since Flarm is in widespread use, why not modify it, to trigger strobes top and bottom for say 10 cycles, when close to another glider ? ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Ian Mc Phee
Hallo Bob and welcome 30+ years ago Bob and his wife Jan were driving by and helped me derig and lift a Bergfalke over a fence (gate locked) after I outlanded after a 400km flight. Now that kids are grown up he has come to gliding. Perhaps we should be all leaving something small with farmer aft

[Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Study - UK

2009-11-24 Thread ventus45
Glider conspicuity trials held at RAF Bicester in June and October 2002 Dr Tony Head, Human Factors Group, School of Engineering, College of Aeronautics, Cranfield University. http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/glider-conspicuity-study.pdf ___ Aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 12:20 AM 25/11/2009, you wrote: On 24/11/2009, at 22:35, Bob Dircks wrote: Am I doing it wrong ? Yep. ...OR. am I suggesting that the forum finds a supplier of better format ? Aus-Soaring is a mailing list, not a web forum. You're supposed to interact with it using your

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread DMcD
HA There is an article about markings on the DG website and it is worth a read. It concerns tests done in the UK using various different markings and different levels of pilot skills from RAF pilots to us. The washup, so far as I remember, is that standard high-vis colours don't work at all, even

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Lucas James
Bob Dircks wrote: Maybe I'm not using it properly But This is by far the clumsey-est chat forum I've ever used. Most forums I've been involved with have a clearer thread display, with many more options for replying, editting, attaching etc etc. Most email programs can display threade

Re: [Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Mark Newton
On 24/11/2009, at 22:35, Bob Dircks wrote: Am I doing it wrong ? Yep. ...OR. am I suggesting that the forum finds a supplier of better format ? Aus-Soaring is a mailing list, not a web forum. You're supposed to interact with it using your mail client. It's entirely poss

[Aus-soaring] Reflex car launching

2009-11-24 Thread Ron Sanders
Does anybody remember the old "reflex launch" I am not sure if it was ever legal but at Cunderdin I can remember sitting in a Kooka and upon the ready advice the car took off straight down the runway at full bore with no uptake of the slack or anything---the shock was absorbed by a flexible (nylon

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Terry Neumann
Bob Dircks wrote: What raised it in my mind recently was. last week when the club nats were on here at Keepit, I was sitting out on my lawn with binoculars watching the gaggle just before the gate opened I could pick out the gliders with significant markings much easier than the all w

[Aus-soaring] forum format

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Dircks
Maybe I'm not using it properly But This is by far the clumsey-est chat forum I've ever used. Most forums I've been involved with have a clearer thread display, with many more options for replying, editting, attaching etc etc. At the very least I would expect to be able to click "reply" o

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Dircks
What raised it in my mind recently was. last week when the club nats were on here at Keepit, I was sitting out on my lawn with binoculars watching the gaggle just before the gate opened I could pick out the gliders with significant markings much easier than the all white ones, and the (smal

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:57 PM 24/11/2009, you wrote: Hi, I'm a newbie here but I have a question that has intrigued me for some time I have read the GFA/AN53 regarding conspicuity markings, and wonder why the large under surfaces of a glider are not recommended for bright marking. If heat is the i

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:57 PM 24/11/2009, you wrote: Hi, I'm a newbie here but I have a question that has intrigued me for some time I have read the GFA/AN53 regarding conspicuity markings, and wonder why the large under surfaces of a glider are not recommended for bright marking. If heat is the i

Re: [Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:57 PM 24/11/2009, you wrote: Hi, I'm a newbie here but I have a question that has intrigued me for some time I have read the GFA/AN53 regarding conspicuity markings, and wonder why the large under surfaces of a glider are not recommended for bright marking. If heat is the i

[Aus-soaring] Conspicuity Markings

2009-11-24 Thread Bob Dircks
Hi, I'm a newbie here but I have a question that has intrigued me for some time I have read the GFA/AN53 regarding conspicuity markings, and wonder why the large under surfaces of a glider are not recommended for bright marking. If heat is the issue with anything other than white, and