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Early December Mark Newton wrote:
: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:23
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] The Future of
Gliding Part 2
mark king wrote:> One recent article in the magazine
asks the question re is there a large > pool of pilots out there
current and possible who want to fly for > recreational purpo
On 12/8/05, Scott Penrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One product already exists. No good for Australia because it uses GSM
> - and it needs to use CDMA (probably) and SMS, rather than constant
> GPRS over GSM.
> We do have a problem in Australia though - GSM is not spread out
> enough and will ne
notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system
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No and No - but he has had two hip replacements
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I bet he's fat & bald...
Cheers
Derek
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:45:50 +1100
"Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I chap I work with who is 50+ has an $80k + Monaro and a $30k + Harley
> Davidson (according to him) and thinks Gliding is for tossers.
Thank you. You've skewered him beautifully. That made my morning :)
Mark Newton wrote:
So they're not exactly equivalent, but they're close enough for the points
I was trying to get across in my email message. The difference between the
cost of a glider and the cost of a house is a multiplication factor less
than 2 (and quite close to 1). The difference betwee
On 08/12/2005, at 9:43, Robert Hart wrote:
Ken Dawber wrote:
I'm sure that changing gliding competitions towards or creating
technology towards making gliding competitions more of a spectator
spectacle would be a great help to the sport.
Since the new FLARM units are consistently output
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Derek Ruddock wrote:
> All very pertinent observations Mark, bu
I have sucessfully tested in XCSoar, driving a mobile phone via
bluetooth to send and receive SMS messages. This works fine.
The catch:
CDMA, which is really most useful for longer distance glider flights, is
being phased out by Telstra and the 3G technology is NOT nearly as good
in remote area
At 08:43 AM 8/12/05 +1000, you wrote:
>However, something like FLARM could be created (Nigel suggested maybe
>using CDMA phones as the comms mechanism - although the in glider unit
>only needs to Tx and not Rx) to do just what you suggest.
I wouldn't get too excited about CDMA pjones. Solstra is
Ken Dawber wrote:
I'm sure that changing gliding competitions towards or creating
technology towards making gliding competitions more of a spectator
spectacle would be a great help to the sport.
Since the new FLARM units are consistently outputting each FLARM
equipped gliders height, positi
Derek Ruddock wrote:
All very pertinent observations Mark, but I couldn't let this one go :)
Although gliders are expensive, the recent climb of the Australian Peso
vs the Euro have made gliders affordable again: We have bought 2 gliders
recently, and neither was within cooee of the price of a h
$80K for a holden ?...you can buy a brandnew V8 SS commodore for
$40K at the moment..ask you local dealer!!
Mark Fisher
Sports Technologist
School of Exercise Science
Southern Cross University
www.scu.edu.au
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Fax +61 2 66203880
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en or Ford,
gliders seem cheap
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Snipped a lot of other stuff...
>The 1974 World Comps at Waikerie created huge interest in
>gliding in Australia at the time, the peak of the GFA
>membership and clubs, large numbers
rs.
Cheers
David
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y, 6 December 2005 10:48 PM
To: Robert Hart
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] The Future of Gliding Part 2
Robert Hart wrote:
>> I think the population of people like that is understated. Terry
>> Cubley is promoting the sports side of
David Boulter wrote:
Being a person who has lived quite a long time in USA, Americans do not
value training that they dont pay for, they believe it is lesser quality.
That is why most of their training operations are professional.
Another point about gliding in the US:
Almost nobody learns t
Robert Hart wrote:
I think the population of people like that is understated. Terry Cubley
is promoting the sports side of gliding quite a bit, but only about 2% of
GFA members seem to front-up to competitions, so I reckon his priorities
are a tad misguided there. I think the other 98% of GFA
Being a person who has lived quite a long time in USA, Americans do not
value training that they dont pay for, they believe it is lesser quality.
That is why most of their training operations are professional.
/daveb
> I'm not interested in hearing about how it works in the US, for two
> reason
Mark Newton wrote:
I think the population of people like that is understated. Terry Cubley
is promoting the sports side of gliding quite a bit, but only about 2% of
GFA members seem to front-up to competitions, so I reckon his priorities
are a tad misguided there. I think the other 98% of GFA
>-Original Message-
>From: mark king
(I started writing this last night but then Saw Mark Ns reply this
morning, so it is a bit of a hodge podge, sorry)
Mark (King) has made some interesting and far ranging points on gliding
and its future. I am only going to dip into a few of them (cos
mark king wrote:
One recent article in the magazine asks the question re is there a large
pool of pilots out there current and possible who want to fly for
recreational purposes as distinct from competition or long distance
flights?
I think the population of people like that is understated.
I posted some thoughts on the future of gliding a week or so ago and
have been a little surprised at the low number of responses, Two were
quite hostile, another one came today quoting a favourable USA
experience with a commercial operation and its convenience and cost
versus a club operation
DG303)
Derek
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The
future of gliding
On this forum someone recently
mark king wrote:
What I am suggesting is that the GFA consider investigating the feasibility
of establishing a “Sports Aviation Centre” near a capital city like Sydney.
This centre could be multi use eg ultralights and gliders/self launchers.
Funded and owned by private investors and perhaps par
The future of gliding
On this forum someone recently lamented there were no controversial
posts. Perhaps I can help here.
I learnt to fly gliders many years ago through the club system and at the
same time obtained a PPL, flew tugs and generally enjoyed both types of
flying for a number of ye
>
>
>I strongly disagree that the GFA is anything to do with pilots leaving
>gliding
>
Then you need to get out more. Met yet another two ex-glider pilots on
the weekend,
same old story...
>I would doubt more than 10% left to take up another form of aviation.
>
No a whole bunch more of them have
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