Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-03 Thread Robert Hudson
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 07:32, Burt Mascareigne wrote: > Can we get a STOP THREAD enforced please > > > > I’m getting tired of seeing SJW Virtue Signalling, I rather read the BGP > Summary reports in line by line detail and verification. > Great. Then filter this clearly labelled mail thread fro

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-03 Thread Jim Woodward
: AusNOG On Behalf Of Paul Wilkins Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2018 11:26 AM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. Preventing women being harassed at public conventions and stopping for red traffic lights. Both are the same nanny state obtruding pesky

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-03 Thread Paul Wilkins
Preventing women being harassed at public conventions and stopping for red traffic lights. Both are the same nanny state obtruding pesky value signaling into the stream of social intercourse. Do like I do, and drive straight through. Someone needs to stop the madness. Kind regards Paul Wilkins O

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-03 Thread Burt Mascareigne
Can we get a STOP THREAD enforced please I’m getting tired of seeing SJW Virtue Signalling, I rather read the BGP Summary reports in line by line detail and verification. ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/l

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Jones
...@gmail.com Cc: aus...@ausnog.net (ausnog@lists.ausnog.net) Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. So, someone made reference to the lack of females on the board... Can we take a moment and have a look at something? Apart from myself (who identifies as 'one of the guys

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Giles Pollock
ies – it was >> suggested at the CEO level – this protects the victim, the **Alleged** >> (I use this term deliberately as until it is proof we have due process – >> innocent until PROVEN guilty – same as the media reporting on items that >> are before the courts.)

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Matthew Young
counter-productive and sexist in its own right. From: John Edwards [mailto:jaedwa...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2018 2:04 PM To: Matthew Young Cc: aus...@ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. I think that you need to be careful defining "merit&qu

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread John Edwards
snog board.” > > > > People should be appointed based on their merits, not based on their > gender. > > > > *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul > Wilkins > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 October 2018 5:50 PM > *To:* aus...@ausnog.net Li

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Tim Raphael
dia reporting on items that are before the >> courts.) aggressor until a chain of evidence can be established and only >> then actioned upon. >> >> >> >> Im sure I will cop back-lash on this, virtue signalling and all… >> >> >> >> Ja

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Jacob Bisby
: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. can we all please fork these discussions into a separate thread or list? regardless of validity or virtue or other discussions, there ARE a few of us folk that still want to use this list for operational purposes. On October 3, 2018 at

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Karen Hargreave
rm >> deliberately as until it is proof we have due process – innocent until >> PROVEN guilty – same as the media reporting on items that are before the >> courts.) aggressor until a chain of evidence can be established and only >> then actioned upon. >> >> >> >> Im sure I will cop back-lash on this,

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Benno Rice
Behalf Of Benno Rice > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2018 1:21 PM > To: aus...@ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. > > So I, too, am a lurker on this list. Hell, I don’t even run any networks > besides my home one, haven’t done for ages. > > Tha

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/10/2018 13:13, andrew khoo wrote: > can we all please fork these discussions into a separate thread or list? > > regardless of validity or virtue or other discussions, there ARE a few of us > folk that still want to use this list for operational purposes. +1 David, can you setup an au

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Sam Silvester
ed at the post by a more qualified > female/different ethnicity/religion person/pigeon then great. Its what I > want. Equality – real equality; not the quota kind. > > > > James Troy > > Senior Systems Administration > > > > > > *From:* AusNOG *On Behalf Of *B

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Guy Ellis
There are some views here that would be very welcome in the Liberal Party. Please go away and join them! - G. On 3/10/2018 1:16 PM, Robert Brockway wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. While we're at it though,

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread James Troy
/pigeon then great. Its what I want. Equality – real equality; not the quota kind. James Troy Senior Systems Administration From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Benno Rice Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2018 1:21 PM To: aus...@ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. So I

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Benno Rice
tablished and only then actioned > upon. > > Im sure I will cop back-lash on this, virtue signalling and all… > > James Troy > Senior Systems Administration > > > > > > > > > > From: AusNOG On Behalf Of dusty > Sent: Wednesday, 3

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Robert Brockway
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the Ausnog board. I see where there's 5 directors been appointed, and they're all men. I'm wondering who is doing th

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread andrew khoo
From: AusNOG On Behalf Of dusty Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2018 12:33 PM To: Matthew Young Cc: aus...@ausnog.net List Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 14:59, Matthew Young wrote: “While we're at it though, there needs to be f

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread dusty
gt; > James Troy > > Senior Systems Administration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* AusNOG *On Behalf Of *dusty > *Sent:* Wednesday, 3 October 2018 12:33 PM > *To:* Matthew Young > *Cc:* aus...@ausnog.net List

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread James Troy
8 5:50 PM To: aus...@ausnog.net <mailto:aus...@ausnog.net> List mailto:aus...@ausnog.net> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. "Seems you've never been to a meeting." The verity of this statement cannot be overexaggerated. Kind regards <

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread dusty
/selection process, and I’ll show you a deluded patriarchal fool. *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul > Wilkins > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 October 2018 5:50 PM > *To:* aus...@ausnog.net List > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Matthew Young
: aus...@ausnog.net List Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. "Seems you've never been to a meeting." The verity of this statement cannot be overexaggerated. Kind regards [https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif] Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
David, The reason you've not heard of these concerns before is, d'uh, there is no mechanism to address the issue. And let's be clear, 1) a Stop Thread was issued to refuse the issue a forum. 2) you're only hearing about it now because Bevan passed the information on, and so have no choice but to

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
"Seems you've never been to a meeting." The verity of this statement cannot be overexaggerated. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:42, Mark Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > > > > The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a goo

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
directly or > indirectly from this communication or any files attached. > > > > *From:* AusNOG *On Behalf Of *Paul > Wilkins > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:50 PM > *To:* aus...@ausnog.net List > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry. > > &

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:41, Mark Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > > The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. > > > > While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the > > Ausnog board. I see where there's

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. > > While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the > Ausnog board. I see where there's 5 directors been appointed, and they're all > men. I'm wonde

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-02 Thread Nathan Brookfield
ther) however caused, whether by negligence or otherwise, which may result directly or indirectly from this communication or any files attached. From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Paul Wilkins Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:50 PM To: aus...@ausnog.net List Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-01 Thread Robert Hudson
This is a much more appropriate response than the "STOP THREAD" one - thank you very much. Congrats to yourself and the rest of the AusNOG board on the recovery - I look forward to seeing the results of the further work you've mentioned will be occurring. Regards, Robert On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 1

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Wilkins
The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the Ausnog board. I see where there's 5 directors been appointed, and they're all men. I'm wondering who is doing the appointing. That they couldn't find a wo

[AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

2018-10-01 Thread David Hughes
We thank Bevan for raising this important issue and bringing it to our attention. This is a complex situation and we take any allegation of this nature very seriously. We hope to discuss this further with those concerned in an attempt to establish specifics, while maintaining the confidentia