Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-17 Thread Eran Chinthaka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Deepal Jayasinghe wrote: Is there a need for axis2-optional.jar? Well , I am bit worried about having a jar like this. Can you please explain why? I'm +1 for axis2-server.jar axis2-client.jar. may be or may be not. Axis2 kernel and java2wsdl is

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-14 Thread keith chapman
- From: Lawrence Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:07 AM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel +1 I actually posted a question about all of the jars included in the Axis2 distribution on the users list

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-14 Thread Lawrence Mandel
on the page so users can easily pick what it is they want to download. Lawrence keith chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/2007 02:54 AM Please respond to axis-dev@ws.apache.org To axis-dev@ws.apache.org cc Subject Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel Is there a need

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-14 Thread Deepal Jayasinghe
Is there a need for axis2-optional.jar? Well , I am bit worried about having a jar like this. I'm +1 for axis2-server.jar axis2-client.jar. may be or may be not. Axis2 kernel and java2wsdl is the core jars that need for bot the client side and the servers side , in addition to the

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-13 Thread Rajith Attapattu
:07 AM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel +1 I actually posted a question about all of the jars included in the Axis2 distribution on the users list today. (See http://marc.info/?l=axis-userm=119214746432551w=2) I counted 19 Axis2 jars and 39

RE: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-12 Thread Tom Jordahl
- From: Lawrence Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:07 AM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel +1 I actually posted a question about all of the jars included in the Axis2 distribution on the users list today. (See

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-11 Thread Srinath Perera
Big big +1 ... I strongly feel we need to reduce the number of Jars and actually tried to voice it few times before. To me, axis2-core.jar and axis2-optional.jar is enough for axis2 jars. Of course we can keep the modules as it is and build two jars while creating the distribution. We can even

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-11 Thread Lawrence Mandel
of jars for users (like me) to make sense of. Lawrence Srinath Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/11/2007 09:39 AM Please respond to axis-dev@ws.apache.org To axis-dev@ws.apache.org cc Subject Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel Big big +1 ... I strongly feel we need to reduce

RE: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-10 Thread Tom Jordahl
Jordahl From: Rajith Attapattu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:07 PM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel Tom has a point. TCP and SMTP seems to be used very rarely. Perhapse 1

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-10 Thread Eran Chinthaka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Jordahl wrote: Well the best thing, IMO, is to ship the current http transport with the release, by default and let users download others if they want to use. +1 - The best thing for Axis2 is for the Axis users, not for Synapse. The fewer

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-10 Thread Rajith Attapattu
What I'd like to see is axis2-server.jar and axis2-client.jar. Then we just have to add other third party jars like commons-etc., and we are good to go. A big +1 on this. This would really simplify the situation for end users. If anything else is required they can download, but most users

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-09 Thread Rajith Attapattu
After understanding the impact and the flexibility, now I am also +1 for the change. Rajith Attapattu Red Hat Canada. On 10/8/07, Deepal jayasinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for the moving transport to a new module. Just out of curiosity, if you take out the http transport out of the

RE: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-09 Thread Tom Jordahl
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, I have couple of questions just to understand what the plan is. Let's assume we separate out transports in to a module. (begin What will this module contain? Will it have

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-09 Thread Rajith Attapattu
to use for users. -- Tom Jordahl -Original Message- From: Eran Chinthaka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 PM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-08 Thread Eran Chinthaka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, I have couple of questions just to understand what the plan is. Let's assume we separate out transports in to a module. (begin What will this module contain? Will it have all the transports, including http, smtp, tcp, etc., or will there be

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-08 Thread Ajith Ranabahu
What will be shipped with Axis2 release? All of them or none? If it is none, do you expect people to download Axis2 release AND another transport that he/she wants to use? else will we release the transport we have now? if yes, then Synapse will again have the same problem.

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-08 Thread Ruwan Linton
Comments in-line On 10/9/07, Ajith Ranabahu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What will be shipped with Axis2 release? All of them or none? If it is none, do you expect people to download Axis2 release AND another transport that he/she wants to use? else will we release the transport

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-08 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
+1 for the moving transport to a new module. Just out of curiosity, if you take out the http transport out of the kernel, won't that change the packages of it which will affect the transport listing in axis2.xml which in turn will be visible to users. Well we can move to a new module , without

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-06 Thread Asankha C. Perera
manage the next release of Synapse (i.e. 1.1) the way things are using a few tricks like putting our copy of the transport in-front of the Axis2-kernel etc. at runtime. Why do you need trickery? The transports are coming out of axis2.xml .. why can you not simply put another transport in

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-06 Thread Srinath Perera
Hi Akanka; IMHO, depending on class loading order could lead to bugs (e.g. User might not know about it, and screw up), and should only use as the least resort. May be you should go to first option. Just My two cents. Thanks Srinath On 10/6/07, Asankha C. Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-06 Thread Ruwan Linton
If we are gonna rename the classes, I prefer changing the package name from axis2 to synapse rather than changing the class name (I mean the part without the package name) Thanks, Ruwan On 10/6/07, Srinath Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Akanka; IMHO, depending on class loading order

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Thilina Gunarathne
IMO defining your own transport is the right way to do it, +1.. Having been able to specify transport implementation from the axis2.xml is the right way of making it pluggable and we need to follow that... IMHO using the classpath, replacing the jar files and making the classes with same name to

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Asankha C. Perera
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Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread David Illsley
Hi Asankha, I really appreciate the work the synapse community has done on the Axis2 transports. I also think it would be reasonable to split the transports out of axis2-kernel. I think where I'm worried is the idea that we could do a quick .1 release with that kind of change - that's simply not

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Asankha C. Perera
Hi David I also think it would be reasonable to split the transports out of axis2-kernel. Great :-).. I think where I'm worried is the idea that we could do a quick .1 release with that kind of change - that's simply not realistic. It's definately something that would require a fair amount

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Srinath Perera
Guys.. the confusion/problem/root cause is this.. the Synapse community re-wrote the JMS transport initially, and checked this into the Axis2 Kernel module as other transports were in there at the time. Actually this replaced the previous JMS transport Axis2 had. Then we wrote a new

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1 for moving it out of the kernel module. Transports are a plug point of Axis2 and there's no need to consider any given transport as core to the kernel. Sanjiva. Ruwan Linton wrote: Hi axis-devs, We are getting ready for the Synapse 1.1 release and we faced to a problem with the

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Asankha C. Perera wrote: I totally agree.. and I am not pushing for that right away.. I can +1 for this change not being a reason to do a new release. manage the next release of Synapse (i.e. 1.1) the way things are using a few tricks like putting our copy of the transport in-front of the

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Srinath Perera
On 10/5/07, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asankha C. Perera wrote: I totally agree.. and I am not pushing for that right away.. I can +1 for this change not being a reason to do a new release. manage the next release of Synapse (i.e. 1.1) the way things are using a few

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-04 Thread David Illsley
While I appreciate it's not what you're asking for, would an Axis2 release depending on -alpha6 provide what you need? If the API changes are reasonably small, that might be a simpler way to go for Axis2 for a point release. David On 04/10/2007, Ruwan Linton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-04 Thread Asankha C. Perera
Sorry to drop in late on this one.. What would be ideal is just a separation of the Axis2 transports code into a separate module within Axis2 - i.e. outside of the Kernel. thanks asankha Ruwan Linton wrote: Hi Chinthaka, It does have API level problems and that is why we are running in to

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-04 Thread Srinath Perera
Can't we do this? Write a new http transport (Http transport edited for new Http core, impl class name should be different), and change the axis2.xml to provide new Http implementation as implementation for http transport, and ship synapse with new axis2.xml (make changing the class name for new

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-04 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Ruwan, Asankha, Actually I was also wondering about the same? Isn't that possible ?? Regards, Rajith On 10/4/07, Srinath Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't we do this? Write a new http transport (Http transport edited for new Http core, impl class name should be different), and change

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-04 Thread Ruwan Linton
Hhmmm... I don't think it is impossible, but at the same time, IMO it is not the right thing to do? (although that will solve the problem). I think it is nice to abstract out the transports from the kernel, even for axis2. That will modularize the things, so that one can write an axis2 transport

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-04 Thread Srinath Perera
IMO defining your own transport is the right way to do it, when Axis2 is being designed, it is designed to be pluggable so we can do this kind of things. If we need to move tranports out of Axis2 kernel, I belive it is a seperate discussion and I do not belive above use case is justification for

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-03 Thread Eran Chinthaka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just out of curiosity, if you take out the http transport out of the kernel, won't that change the packages of it which will affect the transport listing in axis2.xml which in turn will be visible to users. That means, we might have to do a major

Re: Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-03 Thread Ruwan Linton
Hi Chinthaka, It does have API level problems and that is why we are running in to issues in the cases where the transport impl is picked from the axis2-kernel's classes. For example; The method org.apache.http.RequestLine.getHttpVersion() in http-core-alpha5 has been changed to

Getting axis2 transport out from the kernel

2007-10-02 Thread Ruwan Linton
Hi axis-devs, We are getting ready for the Synapse 1.1 release and we faced to a problem with the transports. Synapse is going to ship with the http-core transport version 4.0-alpha6 and we have changed synapse transport module with the improvements for that version (4.0-alpha6-SNAPSHOT) which is