[AZORES-Genealogy] Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Paul
Hello group, I have been trying to find my great grandfather's passport information for the past year or so, without success. He left Sao Miguel via Ponta Delgada on 5 Oct 1906 on the S.S. Suveric. On a previous post, Cheri suggested that I look for his passport information for the years 1905

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA mix up

2014-02-05 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Joao, I don´t know how you found out what company was developing the actual interface, they are Azorean, based in Terceira Island, which I think is great, and maybe it means the money "stays home", and they keep their employees! Perhaps just by looking at the bottom of their pages? http://www.kee

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Archive search site posted by Joao Ventura

2014-02-05 Thread João Ventura
Sam, Exactly like Cheri said. This other site uses Digitarq, which is the same software that powers all the archives in Portugal. I have no idea what CC will do with it in the future. Currently it has no images at all. You have to use the usual CCA website for those. It just allows you the brow

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help finding a pdf

2014-02-05 Thread João Ventura
Hi Deb, It's in here: http://repositorium.sdum.uminho.pt/handle/1822/734/simple-search?query=%22O+Pico%22 It's the 6th entry. I could provide you with the direct link, but you might be interested in the other parts of that series that are on that page. Regards, João Ventura http://tombo.pt

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese words for blessing

2014-02-05 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Hi Chery, I remember in the old days, my grandparents showing us grandchildren a "weird face" if we forgot to ask them for their blessing. We don't hear it so often today, but is still common in some more rural places. It was also a sign of respect! In some kind of "slang" one of the most common

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese words for blessing

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Ricardo, It is a custom used in different nationalities in the past and it is dying out today. Whenever we would visit our French Canadian Grandfather before we left we would ask him for a blessing. This was the custom then in the 1950's. For reasons entwined in society it is not done tod

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Aaron Pereira
Hello, I went through Ponta Delgada passports, 1906, and did not find Manuel Bernardo da Silva. I found several Manuel da Silva's, and one Bernardo da Silva, at least it looked liked Bernardo, but parents were not correct and the wife was not the same. I did find the baptism record that yo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Dano
Paul G., 1. On "Passaportes" dob's are only incidental to your search. As Cheri indicated, you are looking for an unspecific date prior to your ancestor's departure; that can be a short time previous to the date of departure, or, it can be considerably earlier - due to complications relating to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Dano
One other item, Paul. Passenger manifests sometimes list the passport number, so check the manifest again. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Fred Estrella
I found a Baptism record for my 4th ggfather from Capelas, Sao Miquel. I can make out his paternal grandparents but cannot make out the maternal side. Here's what I can determine: Antonio born: 9 Mar 1775 bapt: 19 Mar 1775 f. Ignacio de Arruda m. Maria do Carmo pgf. Joao Vieira pgm. Barbara Franc

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese words for blessing

2014-02-05 Thread Ângela Loura
That's right, Ricardo. Even today, when I talk to my godmother on the phone, I usually start with "Madrinha sa bença" (Madrinha, a sua benção = Please your blessing, Godmother), followed by her "Deus te abençoe (God bless you). 2014-02-05 Richard Francis Pimentel : > > > *Hi Ricardo,* > > > > *I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA mix up

2014-02-05 Thread João Ventura
Hi Ricardo.. I know about Via Oceanica. I fully support that the rest of the CCA site (the content, announcements and institutional information) is built and managed by them. No question there. I question only the too simple interface to the 'Inventário Genealógico'. But like you said, what mat

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese words for blessing

2014-02-05 Thread Rodney Figueiredo
I have to say that growing up in Brazil, we have the same tradition. It is a sign of respect to ask for your grandparent's blessing whenever you see them. We usually ask for it by saying "Benção, Vó/Vô" and they reply "Deus te abençõe." On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:41:16 AM UTC-5, Cheri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Ângela Loura
Joao Vieyra - Godfather Barbara Francisca - Godmother 2014-02-05 Fred Estrella : > I found a Baptism record for my 4th ggfather from Capelas, Sao Miquel. I > can make out his paternal grandparents but cannot make out the maternal > side. Here's what I can determine: > Antonio > born: 9 Mar 177

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Fred, The grand parents are not listed in this record. It is written prior to when they did add them to records. The names Joao Vieira and Barbara Francisca are the God parents. You have the dates and names of the parents correct. I would add that the father was baptized in Capelas and the moth

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Fred Estrella
Thanks, Richard, for this info...very helpful. Fred Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, "Richard Francis Pimentel" > wrote: > > Hi Fred, > > The grand parents are not listed in this record. It is written prior to when > they did add them to records. The names Joao Vieira and Ba

[AZORES-Genealogy] I need alittle help please.

2014-02-05 Thread blackice430
I have a marriage  certificate for a Luiz de Teves widower of Maria Cabral, son of Antonio de Teves and his wife Maria ? and Joanna de Souza widow of Antonio de Costa ? or Cabral or whatever .Joanna is the daughter of Simao de Souza and ? Maria?. The source is Sao Jose , casamentos 1745-1764 #0

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Archive search site posted by Joao Ventura

2014-02-05 Thread aportugee
Joao, Thank you for this further explanation and thanks much for your site as well! 😊 Sam in Maz Sent from Windows Mail From: João Ventura Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎5‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎01‎ ‎AM To: Azores Group -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vac

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese words for blessing

2014-02-05 Thread aportugee
Very sad that we are losing these traditions of love and respect. Personally, I think it grounds us and traditions like these give us a sense of stability, love and continuance. I don’t know if my grandparents were ever a part of this tradition but; I do know we were taught to respect our elde

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I think I got some of this figured out, however cant figure out if grandparents are listed or who the two women are?

2014-02-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
You're welcome and here's hoping you get better soon. Cheers, On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:33 PM, AndresWife wrote: > Thank you so much. [image: Smile] Hopefully I can get to > understanding it better.I had to stop due to carpal tunnel in both > hands. I had shots a few weeks ago to ease

[AZORES-Genealogy] Books from/about the Azores

2014-02-05 Thread Paulo Fagundes
Dear Listers, Livraria dos Açores online has out of print books about the Azores, including History of the Azores Islands, by James Guill. *http://www.livrariaacores.com/teste/* Price includes postage and handling. Sincerely, Paulo Fagundes C

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need alittle help please.

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Pat, Luiz Teves widower of Maria Cabral, and son of Antonio Teves and Maria Vicencia both being deceased. Married Joanna de Sousa widow of Antonio da Costa and daughter of Simio de Sousa and Julia Machada (?) both being deceased. It says that they are all from the parish (Sao Jose) which

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Fred Estrella
I just found the marriage record of the parents of Antonio, Ignacio de Arruda and Maria do Carmo. I can make out Ignacio's parents, Thome Rodrigues (deceased) and Maria de Arruda, but I can't make out Maria do Carmo's parents. The record starts on bottom of left side and finishes on top on righ

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Books from/about the Azores

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
290 Euros is about $400. I need to put an electronic tracking device on my copy. Right now it is the most valuable book I own. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paulo Fagundes Sent: Wednesday, Febru

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Maria do Carmo's parents are unknown she was baptized in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada. Ignacio de Arruda was baptized in NS Apresentacao in Capelas. The date of the marriage is 12 Mar 1761. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailt

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread rcapodc
Fred, the reason you can't read any parent names is because she is a "pai nao sabidos" parents unknown ( it does say pay/pai which I would take it to mean father unknown but there is no mother listed either). She was, however, baptised in Sao Sebastiao in Ponta Delgado. Rosemarie -Origina

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Books from/about the Azores

2014-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
LOL. I guess I need to do the same. For those who don't know, the book, "A History of the Azores Islands" by James H. Guill is just that - a history book. There is some information on royal families and their genealogies, but it is NOT a genealogy book. Before the Internet, it was useful for th

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need alittle help please.

2014-02-05 Thread John Raposo
Hello Pat! S. Pedro da Ribeira Grande is actually Ribeira Seca da Ribeira Grande. For whar it is worth, I do have a Simão de Sousa married to Maria da Silva in Ribeira Grande on 2 Aug 1735, but this probably not the couple you want. The Ribeira Seca records are available on microfilm at the FHC

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Fred Estrella
Thanks for all the help. Seems like every record I come across is a bit different. This one is a real head scratcher...why would Maria not know her mother? Not knowing the father is more sensible but, I guess, her mother might have died when she very young and she was raised by other family? F

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread rcapodc
Fred, What it means is that she was probably abandoned as a baby. Left on the Church doorstep or the "Roda" the lazy-susan wheel at the church or where the Nuns lived. Rosemarie -Original Message- From: Fred Estrella Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:05 PM To: azores@googlegroup

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I need alittle help please.

2014-02-05 Thread JR
I looked at that and this is what I read: SJPD- Dec 18- 1746, Luiz de Teves, viuvo de Maria cabral buried this church, filho de Antonio de Teves, and Maria Nogueira, both deceased, married with Joanna de Souza viuva de Antonio da Costa buried this same church, filha de Simao de Souza and Ursula

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I need alittle help please.

2014-02-05 Thread JR
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1730-1745/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1730-1745_item1/P42.html PDSJ- Jan 28- 1735, Antonio da Costa filho de Joao Lopes e Anna da Costa, com, Joanna de Souza, filha de Simao de Souza, Barrabas e Thereza Machado both deceased, natives of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record

2014-02-05 Thread Fred Estrella
OK, that makes sense, thank you. I forgot about the possibility of a baby being abandoned at the church. Fred Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, "rcapodc" wrote: > > Fred, What it means is that she was probably abandoned as a baby. Left on the > Church doorstep or the "Roda" the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Paul
Thank Aaron for your help. I do not have a record of him ever going to Brazil. Something else to explore, I guess. My Silva family is my pateral grandmother's family. Though I've been in contact with them they refuse to help. @Dano, I have checked every Manuel/Manoel from 1 Jan 1900 - 4 Oct 19

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Paul G, When you said, "He left Sao Miguel via Ponta Delgada on 5 Oct 1906..." Where did that date come from? The other thing is that it's hard to look for a Manuel. Go down the column for the Council and Freguesia and look for R.Grande, Mae de Deus (or maybe Matriz) and then look to see if it'

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pesquisa de Passaportes

2014-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Sorry, I need to go to bed. Look for the council of Povoacao, Matriz or Mae de Deus. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log