Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Yahoo! Found my grandfather's passport information. It verifies what my father always said that he was from Sao Mateus, Graciosa! He left from Angra and came through New York at the age of 11! Settled in Lawrence, Mass. Doesn't look like he traveled with his parents though - so more unanswered

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

thanks Cheri! Yes, I will jump for joy when I find it! Sent from my iPad > On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Terceira passaportes for Angra (Terceira) for 1896-1902 are here: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

The way it's easier for me to understand why you get different results is that I look more like and take more like my mother and my sister is more like my father's side of the family Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:15 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > > ​One more

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Terceira passaportes for Angra (Terceira) for 1896-1902 are here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1896-1902/PASSAPORTES-TER-1896-1902_item1/index.html Since there are about 300 images and 1899 is in the middle, I clicked on image 150. I wasn't in 1899. So I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

It was my mother's DNA. Francisco Sousa Rosa is my father's father. I found the ship manifest and he is listed as Franco de Sensa Rosa age 11. When looking at writing, I'm almost sure Sensa is Sousa. He was born Oct. 1887, so age fits. Shows leaving from Terceira. So I will search

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Unless "Sul" is Luz. Fenais da Luz but that's Sao Miguel island, not Graciosa. Did you DNA test and are you matching S.Miguel people or Graciosa people? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

Siblings would get different results. We get 50% of our DNA from dad and 50% from mom. A sibling would also get 50% of dad and 50% of mom. Who says it's the same 50%? Because the DNA is mixed (like a card shuffle), a sibling doesn't get the same 50% that we got. A good chunk of it is the same,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Thanks for your suggestions. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 3, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel > wrote: > > Colleen, > > I would suggest you go to the Ellis Island website. Try looking up his name > in any number of variations with the ship name and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Thanks Cheri, appreciate your help and this group. Colleen Sent from my iPad > On Aug 3, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > The Dona Maria sailed into New York on Oct. 1, 1899. That must be your ship > and the date. > > However, that ship picked up people from all

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Definitely Fenais. Handwriting very clear. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 3, 2016, at 4:03 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > Are you sure its not Fayal or Faial. There several Fenais in the Azores. > > > On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:46 PM, Steve

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

​One more question on this Family FInder test.if siblings, a brother and a sister, take the test would the results be the same. If not, how would they be different? "E"​ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

The Dona Maria sailed into New York on Oct. 1, 1899. That must be your ship and the date. However, that ship picked up people from all 3 Azorean ports before making it to New York. However, you may be able to find him on Ancestry as only you know your ancestor's birth date. The ships list will

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Colleen, I would suggest you go to the Ellis Island website. Try looking up his name in any number of variations with the ship name and date of arrival you can always find the manifest by backing into it and then check the names one by one. The manifest should also say where what island it

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

Are you sure its not Fayal or Faial. There several Fenais in the Azores. On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:46 PM, Steve Wright wrote: I finally found my grandfather, Francisco Sousa Rosa's, Declaration of Intent for Naturalization in Boston, Massachusetts.   At

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BALTEZAR GOMEZ DE MOIRA 's marriage

Thanks Margaret. I regarding the "va" at the end of the last name, Velha- oops- I didn't realize that was an abbreviation for widowed. Thanks for teaching me. Regarding Izabel- I will see if I can find another marriage of a Baltezar Gomez de Moira and IZABEL de Fontes. I thought I had

[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

I finally found my grandfather, Francisco Sousa Rosa's, Declaration of Intent for Naturalization in Boston, Massachusetts. At least, I think it is him. Birthdate and name are correct. He has been my brickwall for several years. Form was definitely completed by someone else because his

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

Thanks for your responseand yes, it would be wonderful if we could get that answer. On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 12:14 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > If Joao Afonso (de Pimentel) "das Grotas Fundas" is who genealogists say > he is (son of the 3rd Count)

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

You know how ideas are really good in theory but sometimes when we put them to practice, well, we run into obstacles? Joao Afonso Grotas Fundas...born mid to late 1400s, d. 1512. Work tracing ALL his sons forward for the past 550 years to wherever his descendants went: America, Canada, Brasil,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

I logged into someone who did Y only and was able to put Family Finder in the cart. Maybe you should call FTDNA? Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

Cheri, They have both done the Y male test so, yes, they have tested before. They have not had Family Finder done yet. I will try again. "E" On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Elaine, > > It's you. > > If you are trying to order a BRAND NEW KIT, you

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

Elaine, It's you. If you are trying to order a BRAND NEW KIT, you can't do it by logging into YOUR page. Regarding your husband: Has he DNA tested before? If not, then just go to www.ftdna.com and place the order. If he has tested with FTDNA, what test(s) have you had done on him? Regarding

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

OK. I am still trying to order 2 $69 Family Finders. I sign in and I only get as far as clicking on the $69 then it goes to a red rolling something or other and keep going and nothing happens or I am still getting a blank page. This is in response to their email to me for this. Anyone else

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenço Antonio Bonito Viera married to Ana Julia Linhares

Just like Lawrence can be a first or last name in the English language, Lourenço can be a first or last name in Portuguese. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenço Antonio Bonito Viera married to Ana Julia Linhares

Thank you for all the information everyone is finding on this family. Are any of the siblings born in Sao Jose? Is there a rule with the surname Lourenço? Sometimes it is a surname sometimes it is a first name? There is a Lawrence family in Plymouth my mother was told were cousins of ours

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

Those of us that are descendants of João Afonso can all pitch in for a Y-DNA test. I remember someone posting information a year or so ago that a university was going to publish a paper about João Afonso (de Pimentel) das Grotas Fundas but nothing was brought forth. Todd On Wednesday,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale starts Wednesday, August 3

I am trying to order this for my husband and his McNeal cousin thus far when I try to purchase all I get is a blank page. It does list price as $69. Guess they are not ready yet??? "E" On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > Wow, $69 that's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

Dear direct paternal line descendant of Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas, We need your Y DNA tested to confirm a mystery and be able to make a huge breakthrough with one of the original settlers of the Azores. Of course we would then need to find a direct paternal descendant of his father, the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

This is exactly what we need in order to have scientific proof. Otherwise, we will never know for sure. We NEED to figure this out. It's an intriguing story that needs to be told and properly researched. Is there anyway that we could identify a direct male descendant of Joao Afonso das GF? Then