Right side, 2nd down
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P31.html
Is the groom's last name Rodrigues , son of Pedro Gonçalves and Luzia
Rodrigues??
Then the fifth line down it says something about the widow
Oops! You're right. Thank you.
Maria Elena
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 8:29 PM, JR wrote:
>
> I hope I didn't confuse anyone with my JR, which stands for John Roias.
> Although I wrote posting on Teresa, you are perhaps directing your remarks to
> John Raposo.
>
> JRoias
>
I hope I didn't confuse anyone with my JR, which stands for John Roias.
Although I wrote posting on Teresa, you are perhaps directing your remarks
to John Raposo.
JRoias
On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 7:32:29 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote:
>
> Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T
Wow! Thank you so, so much.
John
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 4:48 PM, Maria Lima
wrote:
You're welcome, cousin JR
Here is the baptism record for our ancestor, Maria Carvalha(Daughter of
Jeronimo Martins x Maria Carvalha)
Ginetes, Batismos 1588-1677 > 0154.
Thanks for this Cheri!
Edna
dave-e...@comcast.net Blessed are they who maintain justice, who constantly do
what is right. (Psalm 106:3)
On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
Since we have many new to this list (and for those wanting a review), I will
explain
JR: here is obit for Our common ancestor, Jeronimo (Hieronimo) Martins.
.
I've learned that when the couple has only 3/4 kids, look for one of the
parents to have died. I felt a bit sad to find it. Weird cause he's been dead
for a few years, right?
Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T and "L" in other records
he wrote. It's definitely a Tereza. Whew, it was a challenge.
JR: this TEREZA is a child of Heronimo Martins x Maria Cravalha our common
ancestor.So far I found records for three children for them
MARIA,
Since we have many new to this list (and for those wanting a review), I
will explain how the Azores are organized so you'll know where to look.
The Azores are an autonomous region of Portugal, comprised of 9 islands:
Santa Maria, Sao Miguel, Terceira, Graciosa, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial,
Flores, and
Antonio Vas Borba (or Vaz)
JR
On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 3:16:08 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote:
>
> I'm thinking it's an abbreviation for Domingos but hope others will chime
> in. Otherwise the record is beautiful.
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Evee Silva Kiler
I would stick with Tereza. Study the L's, there is complete bottom loop.
This first letter stops at the bottom. The dotted 'i' is perhaps
accidental. May be even Terezia. See here for clear Tereza, no bottom loop
like the L.
Some 3 years ago a generous member of this group shared with me (Thank you)
they had found what may be a 5 G G mother of mine name Catarina Gomes who was
married to a Manuel Valadao. I have recorded my understanding in that the
source of this is a " Flores History Book / Azores web". If any
Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the
same way you do.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima
Hi Cheri,
I will note the words you pointed out. Your translation really helps a lot.
Thank you so much.
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Thanks all...
Now that I re-read the record (having the benefit of all of your thoughts
and input) the record is pretty clear. It's the first of this type that
I've seen and it threw me for a bit of a loop. But that's why we're all
here... to help and to be of help. And a special apology to José
I'm thinking it's an abbreviation for Domingos but hope others will chime in.
Otherwise the record is beautiful.
Maria Elena
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>
>
Top left
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html
My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over one of
the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?)
For the godparents the priest wrote
I think the key words are on the third line “sua esposo” which I believe means
betrothed or engaged. While it also could mean husband or wife.
Rick
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:47 PM
To: Azores
Typo 1784 not 1780. Sorry.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> The parents of the baby may be cousins and are waiting
The parents of the baby may be cousins and are waiting on the dispensation
to marry, but went ahead and started a family. On the other hand, maybe
they are cousins and became "weak of the flesh" (the words of the day) or
were jonesing for each other (that's probably American slang). She batted
her
It makes sense to me Bernardina is the daughter of Antonia de Chaves who is the
daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and his wife Antonia Margarida de Cheves and her
betrothed Andre Jose Soares who is the son of Antonio Soares de Sousa and his
wife Anna da Gloria. Antonia de Cheves is engaged to
There are lots of Fragoso's in Rosario de Lagoa. Have you looked there? I
think it reasonable to assume the Fragoso's have their origins in Lagoa.
Almost all the one's I have encountered, and those posted here, trace back
to Lagoa. Also, you may find some Ponta Delgada.
JR
On Sunday, February
Don V,
If you tested with FTDNA, you need to be part of the Azores DNA Project
(log into your kit, point at Projects, then Join A Project, then in the
Search by Surname type "azores." Click that and follow the directions to
the end). The Sao Jorge island people are really starting to cluster now.
Ever,
I have Borba from Calheta, Topo, Sao Jorge and Vasconcelos from Graciosa.
Antonio da Sousa Borba was my great grandfather, and Francisco da Sousa
Vasconcellos was my grandfather.
My Gedmatch is A439498.
Don Vasconcellos
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> On Feb 5, 2017, at 8:56 AM, linda
Thank you Cheri and Margaret.
George
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> The parents aren't married and the priest wasn't very clear about it.
> Mom: Antonia de Chaves, daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and Antonia
> Margarida de Chaves
> Dad: Andre Jose
I think it may be "Vas" or "Vaz" for Vasconcelos.
Linda
On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 8:43:05 AM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803_item1/P29.html
>
> In the fourth and fifth lines
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803_item1/P29.html
In the fourth and fifth lines from the bottom of this birth record for
Ignacio (bottom right record) I believe it reads that the padrinhos are
Pedro Ignacio, son of
The parents aren't married and the priest wasn't very clear about it.
Mom: Antonia de Chaves, daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and Antonia
Margarida de Chaves
Dad: Andre Jose Soares son of Antonio Soares de Sousa and Anna da Gloria
Godfather: Antonio Jose de Chaves son of Gonsalo de Andrade and
Without going into the record I can tell the parents of the child are not
married. Antonia is the mother, following that it names her bparents. Same
with the father. No vino this time George, lol
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:41 AM George Sousa wrote:
> I may have to file
I may have to file this one in the Cheri Mello "too much vinho" file but I
would appreciate your interpretation of this...
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792_item1/P85.html
As far as I can tell the page on the
Hi Mary,
That does help. Now I am able to add that to the translation too. Thank you so
much!
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Hi!
Rodrigo Rodrigues has a reference to a Manuel Fragoso de Melo son of a Manuel
Fragoso de Melo and Teresa Amália…
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