[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with grooms last name and widow's status

2017-02-05 Thread Maria Lima
Right side, 2nd down http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P31.html Is the groom's last name Rodrigues , son of Pedro Gonçalves and Luzia Rodrigues?? Then the fifth line down it says something about the widow

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

2017-02-05 Thread Maria Lima
Oops! You're right. Thank you. Maria Elena > On Feb 5, 2017, at 8:29 PM, JR wrote: > > I hope I didn't confuse anyone with my JR, which stands for John Roias. > Although I wrote posting on Teresa, you are perhaps directing your remarks to > John Raposo. > > JRoias >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

2017-02-05 Thread JR
I hope I didn't confuse anyone with my JR, which stands for John Roias. Although I wrote posting on Teresa, you are perhaps directing your remarks to John Raposo. JRoias On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 7:32:29 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote: > > Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Children of AntonioFerreira. Maria Carvalha

2017-02-05 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Wow! Thank you so, so much. John On Saturday, February 4, 2017 4:48 PM, Maria Lima wrote: You're welcome, cousin JR Here is the baptism record for our ancestor, Maria Carvalha(Daughter of Jeronimo Martins x Maria Carvalha) Ginetes, Batismos 1588-1677 > 0154.  

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Organization of the Azores for genealogical searching

2017-02-05 Thread Edna Epps
Thanks for this Cheri! Edna dave-e...@comcast.net Blessed are they who maintain justice, who constantly do what is right. (Psalm 106:3) On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: Since we have many new to this list (and for those wanting a review), I will explain

[AZORES-Genealogy] Obit of Hieronimo Martins

2017-02-05 Thread Maria Lima
JR: here is obit for Our common ancestor, Jeronimo (Hieronimo) Martins. . I've learned that when the couple has only 3/4 kids, look for one of the parents to have died. I felt a bit sad to find it. Weird cause he's been dead for a few years, right?

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

2017-02-05 Thread Maria Lima
Thanks, I went with Tereza after studying the letter T and "L" in other records he wrote. It's definitely a Tereza. Whew, it was a challenge. JR: this TEREZA is a child of Heronimo Martins x Maria Cravalha our common ancestor.So far I found records for three children for them MARIA,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Organization of the Azores for genealogical searching

2017-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Since we have many new to this list (and for those wanting a review), I will explain how the Azores are organized so you'll know where to look. The Azores are an autonomous region of Portugal, comprised of 9 islands: Santa Maria, Sao Miguel, Terceira, Graciosa, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores, and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father of the Godmother for Ignacio...son of Jose Ignacio Gomes and Catherina Rosa of Ribeirinha, Terceira

2017-02-05 Thread JR
Antonio Vas Borba (or Vaz) JR On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 3:16:08 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote: > > I'm thinking it's an abbreviation for Domingos but hope others will chime > in. Otherwise the record is beautiful. > > Maria Elena > > On Feb 5, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Evee Silva Kiler

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

2017-02-05 Thread JR
I would stick with Tereza. Study the L's, there is complete bottom loop. This first letter stops at the bottom. The dotted 'i' is perhaps accidental. May be even Terezia. See here for clear Tereza, no bottom loop like the L.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes

2017-02-05 Thread 'Ralph Sellars' via Azores Genealogy
 Some 3 years ago a generous member of this group shared with me (Thank you)  they had found what may be a 5 G G mother of mine name Catarina Gomes who was  married to a Manuel Valadao. I have recorded my understanding in that the source of this is a " Flores History Book / Azores web".  If any

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

2017-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Not too sure what to think on that baby's name. I read the godparents the same way you do. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Maria Lima

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help please

2017-02-05 Thread we...@stargazerlabradors.com
Hi Cheri, I will note the words you pointed out. Your translation really helps a lot. Thank you so much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread George Sousa
Thanks all... Now that I re-read the record (having the benefit of all of your thoughts and input) the record is pretty clear. It's the first of this type that I've seen and it threw me for a bit of a loop. But that's why we're all here... to help and to be of help. And a special apology to José

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father of the Godmother for Ignacio...son of Jose Ignacio Gomes and Catherina Rosa of Ribeirinha, Terceira

2017-02-05 Thread Maria Lima
I'm thinking it's an abbreviation for Domingos but hope others will chime in. Otherwise the record is beautiful. Maria Elena > On Feb 5, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Evee Silva Kiler wrote: > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of child

2017-02-05 Thread Maria Lima
Top left http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P173.html My first impression was the name is Thereza but then there's a dot over one of the letters and now i'm guessing it's Luzia(?) For the godparents the priest wrote

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
I think the key words are on the third line “sua esposo” which I believe means betrothed or engaged. While it also could mean husband or wife. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:47 PM To: Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Typo 1784 not 1780. Sorry. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > The parents of the baby may be cousins and are waiting

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
The parents of the baby may be cousins and are waiting on the dispensation to marry, but went ahead and started a family. On the other hand, maybe they are cousins and became "weak of the flesh" (the words of the day) or were jonesing for each other (that's probably American slang). She batted her

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
It makes sense to me Bernardina is the daughter of Antonia de Chaves who is the daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and his wife Antonia Margarida de Cheves and her betrothed Andre Jose Soares who is the son of Antonio Soares de Sousa and his wife Anna da Gloria. Antonia de Cheves is engaged to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] where and when did he die

2017-02-05 Thread JR
There are lots of Fragoso's in Rosario de Lagoa. Have you looked there? I think it reasonable to assume the Fragoso's have their origins in Lagoa. Almost all the one's I have encountered, and those posted here, trace back to Lagoa. Also, you may find some Ponta Delgada. JR On Sunday, February

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Father of the Godmother for Ignacio...son of Jose Ignacio Gomes and Catherina Rosa of Ribeirinha, Terceira

2017-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Don V, If you tested with FTDNA, you need to be part of the Azores DNA Project (log into your kit, point at Projects, then Join A Project, then in the Search by Surname type "azores." Click that and follow the directions to the end). The Sao Jorge island people are really starting to cluster now.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Father of the Godmother for Ignacio...son of Jose Ignacio Gomes and Catherina Rosa of Ribeirinha, Terceira

2017-02-05 Thread Donald Vasconcelos
Ever, I have Borba from Calheta, Topo, Sao Jorge and Vasconcelos from Graciosa. Antonio da Sousa Borba was my great grandfather, and Francisco da Sousa Vasconcellos was my grandfather. My Gedmatch is A439498. Don Vasconcellos Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2017, at 8:56 AM, linda

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread George Sousa
Thank you Cheri and Margaret. George On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > The parents aren't married and the priest wasn't very clear about it. > Mom: Antonia de Chaves, daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and Antonia > Margarida de Chaves > Dad: Andre Jose

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Father of the Godmother for Ignacio...son of Jose Ignacio Gomes and Catherina Rosa of Ribeirinha, Terceira

2017-02-05 Thread linda
I think it may be "Vas" or "Vaz" for Vasconcelos. Linda On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 8:43:05 AM UTC-8, Evee Silva Kiler wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803_item1/P29.html > > In the fourth and fifth lines

[AZORES-Genealogy] Father of the Godmother for Ignacio...son of Jose Ignacio Gomes and Catherina Rosa of Ribeirinha, Terceira

2017-02-05 Thread Evee Silva Kiler
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1790-1803_item1/P29.html In the fourth and fifth lines from the bottom of this birth record for Ignacio (bottom right record) I believe it reads that the padrinhos are Pedro Ignacio, son of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread Cheri Mello
The parents aren't married and the priest wasn't very clear about it. Mom: Antonia de Chaves, daughter of Gonsalo de Andrade and Antonia Margarida de Chaves Dad: Andre Jose Soares son of Antonio Soares de Sousa and Anna da Gloria Godfather: Antonio Jose de Chaves son of Gonsalo de Andrade and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Without going into the record I can tell the parents of the child are not married. Antonia is the mother, following that it names her bparents. Same with the father. No vino this time George, lol On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:41 AM George Sousa wrote: > I may have to file

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardina filha de ? on February 19th, 1784 - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

2017-02-05 Thread George Sousa
I may have to file this one in the Cheri Mello "too much vinho" file but I would appreciate your interpretation of this... http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1779-1792_item1/P85.html As far as I can tell the page on the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help please

2017-02-05 Thread we...@stargazerlabradors.com
Hi Mary, That does help. Now I am able to add that to the translation too. Thank you so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] where and when did he die

2017-02-05 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi! Rodrigo Rodrigues has a reference to a Manuel Fragoso de Melo son of a Manuel Fragoso de Melo and Teresa Amália… eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de pjm47 Enviada: 12 de dezembro de 2016 16:43 Para: Azores Genealogy