[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Obitos - Luz, Graciosa

2017-03-05 Thread Lee
Thank you! This helps tremendously. His wife Dona Francisca's record reads almost verbatim as his does. More sleuthing to do ahead for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Obitos - Luz, Graciosa

2017-03-05 Thread linda
Hi Lee, As best as I can transcribe it, the records says: Em os vinte e quatro dias do mez de Agosto de mil seis centos noventa e oyto faleceo da vida prezente ManoeL Pays veuvo de D. Francisca do Caminho do Sul freguez desta Igreja de idade de 70 annos [parece?] mais ou menos Com todos os

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy
Yes. They are.  > On Mar 5, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Louie Avila wrote: > > Gayle, > Is this the grand parents you mentioned in an earlier post? > Louie > >> On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 11:46:57 AM UTC-8, Louie Avila wrote: >> >> All (especially Gayle), >> >> This is a

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread Louie Avila
Gayle, Is this the grand parents you mentioned in an earlier post? Louie On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 11:46:57 AM UTC-8, Louie Avila wrote: > > > All (especially Gayle), > > This is a link to Joao da Costa's baptism record (Pico, Sao Mateus) > > >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Currency

2017-03-05 Thread linda
Hi Gordon, The Real was the Portuguese monetary unit from the middle ages until about 1910 and the end of the monarchy. A Vintem equaled 20 Reis, and a Tostao equaled 80 (or, later, 100) Reis. What are the dates of the records you're wondering about? I have some historic conversion rates

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy
Louie, It is Manuel Costa. But, his wife is Agueda Rodrigues. The abbreviation Roiz. is being used. Gayle > On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Louie Avila wrote: > > > All (especially Gayle), > > This is a link to Joao da Costa's baptism record (Pico, Sao Mateus) >

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] ST Francis habits

2017-03-05 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
Very informative. Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 6:12 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ST Francis habits Gordon (and John too), I  knew that I had saved some

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ST Francis habits

2017-03-05 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
Gordon (and John too), I knew that I had saved some information about burials and went looking deep into my computer.So here is a posting from 13 years ago and low and behold….it was John who answered then:) Here is what he said way back when! Susan From: To:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need dates

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
I see it now. Don't know what I was thinking! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Lee wrote: > It's July. Priest says August and then

[AZORES-Genealogy] need dates

2017-03-05 Thread Lee
It's July. Priest says August and then pretty digo correcting himself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Records for Pico, Sao Mateus

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
And deaths start in 1671. Yes, missing books. You will be out of luck unless a sibling married in a different freguesia and you find them there. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 5,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Records for Pico, Sao Mateus

2017-03-05 Thread Louie Avila
All, Does anyone know why in the CCA records for Pico, Sao Mateus baptisms go back to 1673 yet the Marriage records only go back to 1698? Is a book missing? Or, should I be looking in another Fregueisa? Suggestions? Out of luck? Louie -- You received this message because you are

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ST Francis habits

2017-03-05 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Gordon, Roman Catholics believe that the sentences of souls to purgatory can be shortened by Masses arranged to be offered on their behalf as well as good works (corporal and spiritual works of mercy) done on their behalf. I do not think there is another way of explaining it. So, if your father

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obitos - Luz, Graciosa

2017-03-05 Thread Lee
Left side, middle - Manoel Pays, 70 years of age, widower of Dona Francisca, died on August 24, 1698. I need help with the portion from about midway through the record to the end. I can see mention of S. Matheus of Praia. Is this document saying that he services were held in Praia? Or am

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need dates

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Waaay too much vinho. It looks like he wrote both months to me. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Elizabeth Migliori wrote: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans help Bap

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
I think that's supposed to be a "nat." for natives of. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Elizabeth Migliori wrote: > The 2nd line starts

[AZORES-Genealogy] ST Francis habits

2017-03-05 Thread Gordon Soares
I wonder if anyone knows the significance of being buried in the habit of St. Francis in the 1600-1800 burials. It is often said that the person was carried to the grave in the habit of St Francis lead by the priest and the Friars of St. Francis. The person often had a will and indicated that

[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Currency

2017-03-05 Thread Gordon Soares
I wrote a week ago asking about the Portuguese currency that is often referenced in the obits of 1600-1800`. Some indicate that the person or their relatives had to pay either in reis, Vintens or Tostoes according to the time and the cost of the funeral. Does anyone know the value of these?

[AZORES-Genealogy] need dates

2017-03-05 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1804-1813/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1804-1813_item1/P25.html I can't tell the birth and bap dates on this one Manuel bottom right. 1806 August?? July ??? thx Liz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans help Bap

2017-03-05 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
The 2nd line starts with Maria Rosa again. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > You have the dates right. > > I don't know where you are reading "2ce." Which line? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alves to New Hampshire (USA) in 1862

2017-03-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
I Remember a Frank Bartlett posted on this list some time ago and he was from New Hampshire. I am not sure if there is a connection. Go to here and do a search for Frank Bartlett: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/azores Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans help Bap

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
You have the dates right. I don't know where you are reading "2ce." Which line? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Elizabeth Migliori wrote:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Alves to New Hampshire (USA) in 1862

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Karen iluvusofa at yahoo.com Hi, My name is Karen Babcock and my grandmother was Esther Silliphant. She may have been your Aunt and my father Allen Babcock is your cousin. I also have been looking for Joseph Alves Bartlett. He came to America in 1862. I could not find him again

[AZORES-Genealogy] trans help Bap

2017-03-05 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823_item1/P65.html Bottom right Manuel son of Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa ? Why does it have mother's name Maria Rosa 2ce? Jan 12, 1819 ?? Bap Jan 16?? what do notes on left side

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Planning: Portuguese Genealogy Conference, Salt Lake City

2017-03-05 Thread Shirl Sereque
Jeremy I wrote to your email address.  I'll be in Redondo Beach later this month.  Cheri suggested we get together one of the days.  Are you still interested in Rocha stuff?   I can bring it with me.- Shirl - On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:14 PM, Mary wrote: I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Agree with Cheri, Agada Roiz (Agueda Rodrigues) and Manuel da Costa On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 3:55 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > Yes, Manuel da Costa and either Agueda Rosa or Agueda Rois (for > Rodrigues). It's kinda creased there..so if you have another record with > her as Agueda

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes, Manuel da Costa and either Agueda Rosa or Agueda Rois (for Rodrigues). It's kinda creased there..so if you have another record with her as Agueda Rosa, then that's her name. The guy didn't pick up his pen and it looks like Mez, but it's Mel. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching:

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
His father name is abbreviated Mez not sure but it is not Manuel which should be Mel. The mothers name looks good. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louie Avila Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 2:47 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao da Costa

2017-03-05 Thread Louie Avila
All (especially Gayle), This is a link to Joao da Costa's baptism record (Pico, Sao Mateus) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1673-1703/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1673-1703_item1/P9.html I am trying to decipher his parents names ... I see Manuel da Costa and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Endogamy (intermarried) study

2017-03-05 Thread Cheri Mello
It's probably going to depend on the amount of cMs that they share. Normally, 4th would be too distant (an average of 31 cMs). But if they are sharing 150 cMs for example, they are probably 4th cousins a couple of different ways, such as 4C1R, 5th C, 5C1R, 6C, etc. They need to be cousins

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel da Costa and Anna de Sousa

2017-03-05 Thread Louie Avila
Will do. On Mar 5, 2017 9:24 AM, "'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy" < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Louie, > > Let me know if you find anything new on this couple and their lines. I'd > appreciate it. > > Gayle > > > > On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Louie Avila

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Vas Teixeira death record

2017-03-05 Thread Neil Teixeira
Thanks JR, Shortening his name by just one letter is silly, but it seems to be the pattern in Sao Jorge Church. I looked in the obits and never found any other family members-including his wife Fransisca Manuel. I think she must have died somewhere else. I was hoping this obit for Joao Vaz

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel da Costa and Anna de Sousa

2017-03-05 Thread 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy
Louie, Let me know if you find anything new on this couple and their lines. I'd appreciate it. Gayle > On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Louie Avila wrote: > > Gayle, > > This is great info! Thank you! > > I have found lots of data on the CCA for Sao Jorge that is

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Endogamy (intermarried) study

2017-03-05 Thread bsei2816
Just out of curiosity, what would be too distant of cousinship for this study; 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. Bill On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 6:48:56 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > Roberta Estes is still looking for people from endogamous (intermarried) > populations to develop a new tool to help