Beautiful...ah, the good old days.
In a message dated 5/5/2011 10:51:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cakemom...@aol.com writes:
nostalgic for the old days when it was a common occurrence.
Mary Ann
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Should have read this before yaking off to you. This would happen as
written between counties. Only two counties on Sao Miguel. Two on Terceira.
One on Graciosa, One on Pico. Anyway on is buried for something like 7
years and then not to be put into the bone box you have to sign on
Thank you. I've always found the Romeiros of the Azores interesting.
Eloise
In a message dated 4/22/2011 10:27:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bellema...@gmail.com writes:
Here are a couple of interesting articles about the Romeiros and how the
tradition is carried on today:
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I had done my Pico and Faial ancestry years before they came online.
Checking the UM records I found errors...some of my ancestors were not listed.
It seems that if one was not born in that village or married elsewhere
they were missed. I know that other complained about missing
Cheri...thanks...I guess there are no Fremont users on the list
In a message dated 4/18/2011 10:41:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:
OK, now that you (or Helen) said Hayward, I found this one:
Hayward California Family History Center
3551 Decoto Rd
Fremont,
Cheri: I don't know anything about the Fremont FHCStrange that they
would be open on a Sunday.
Are there no Frement researchers on this list? Any who have researched
there in the past?
In a message dated 4/16/2011 1:18:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:
if you are writing about Oakland...the readers, all of them, are still
there. As long as I've been going to Oakland,, they sit in rows of 8
readers. They all had been the old type of readers , black and much smaller
than
the new larger readers, The reader section remains as it has
As of Wednesday, all the old wonderful readers...4 of them are gone to the
heaven of 16mm readers.
I tried the one remaing (the one without the sign OUT OF ORDER). I could
get it more or less to work - if I stood up and moved the reel along with
that turn thing. I had to stand up to read
Oh, please...I am not upset by American writers in the 1800s as to what
they said about the Azores and it's people.. I just mentioned that these
writers were most unkind when writing about the people of the Azores. John
mentioned that even Mark Twain had not written much good about the
Gee, I may be wrong...but isn't Walter F Walker most unkind to the Azores
in his comments. In fact, most American writers were not kind if seemed to
me.
In a message dated 4/4/2011 6:33:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cmurra...@yahoo.com.au writes:
Walter Fredrick Walker
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Oakland had 4 high power lens machines...and ten and more years ago we
fought for them. It got to be...sign up for 1 hour and wait an hour for
another hour or go home.. When I was there 6 month ago there were 2 machine.
Today there is only one remaining. The others are out of order and
Wow, do I agree with you. As I wrote to Cheri , I was glad that Edna is
getting some credit for all the years of her work on Volume 4. I met Edna
once and she told me she really did not know Portuguese...did not speak it.
So good for her!
Eloise
just checked my copy which I
Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy.
I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades
da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early
days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on
Death Records.
I found death records the most difficult to read - easier as time went on.
There is wonderful information in these records. It is the best source
of information as to the social standing and wealth of a person in a
village. These records often state that a person left a
Her name was spelled about 3 different ways.
In a message dated 3/16/2011 1:56:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
fishsongf...@hotmail.com writes:
I'm a bit confused because several years ago I was told that Wilhem's wife
was Margarita de Azumbuja.not Margarida of Savoie.
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_Click here: Margaret of Savoy, Duchess of Anjou - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_Savoy_(1410–1479))
I've tried to correct this mistake forever...
Margaret of Savoy married three times.
She died in Stuttgart and is buried there.
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Usually it was the priest who permitted the marriage. It was his duty to
check up on the relationships of bride and groom. I think with first
cousins permission had to be granted by the bishop.
Checking the internet: Blood relationship (consanguinity) in the direct
line (such as
I'm thinking someone was pulling your leg. It was not a penance to
marry...perhaps a penance after marriage.
In a message dated 3/14/2011 12:13:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cakemom...@aol.com writes:
Their penance was to walk the stone courtyard in front of the church
barefoot at
MARRIAGE AND THE DEGREE OF CONSANGUINITY
Mention is made in the record if a dispensation was need for marriage.
Dispensations were needed for blood relationships back to the 4th (quatro)
degree (3rd cousins). The record reads that a dispensation was granted
because the bride and
I am one of those persons. My first 2 trips to the Azores were with the
tour group. First was the tour to 4 islands, Madeira and Portugal. Second
trip with Al and Ginny was a 3 week tour of all nine islands. Thereafter
they have made all my travel arrangements to the Azores. What I
Today is Shrove Tuesday. Also known in France as Fat Tuesady. Today we
eat - tomorow we fast. ..In England Shrove Tuesday is called Pancake Day.
In the news that I saw today, Prince Wiliam and Catherine were celebrating
Shrove Tuesday in North Ireland tossing pankcakes with children.
For those of you interested in the Botelho line, the book is on film in
Salt Lake.
OS BOTELHOS DE NOSSA SENHORA DA VIDA; 3rd Visconde de Botelho; 1957;
FHL1183626.
This work was researched and written by 2 important genealogists from Sao
Miguel. Rodrigo Rodrigues (Genealogies of Sao
Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near
Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all
different countries when it became established.
I don't think the French settled in Vila Franca Xira.. A grant of land
about 1147
Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According
to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do
Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao
Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de
Many do criticize this book-. I remember years ago on the old Azores
List there was much discussion about The Cross and the Pear Tree. The Jews,
who when forced to convert, did not choose name of fruits and flowers etc
as noted in the Pear Tree. They choose names that were most
Yes, George, it is a holiday in most of the Catholic Countries. The day
of the Wise Men. To the blare of trumpets the Pope said The Mass of the
Epiphany this morning at the Vatican. It is a big holiday in Italy. It is
the day children in Catholic countries receive most of their gifts
oh, thanks...I have it and I did have it listed under Raposo...not JOHN
In a message dated 1/4/2011 9:04:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bretanha1...@gmail.com writes:
here it is
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