Re: [BackupPC-users] out of memory, and slow backups after moving to 3.0

2007-10-10 Thread Ambrose Li
On 11/10/2007, Craig Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ambrose writes: > > > This has been reported back when 3.0 was first released; it has to do > > with the way the nightly job is scheduled, so you certainly are not seeing > > something not seen before. I don't have the info offhand, though;

Re: [BackupPC-users] out of memory, and slow backups after moving to 3.0

2007-10-10 Thread Craig Barratt
Ambrose writes: > This has been reported back when 3.0 was first released; it has to do > with the way the nightly job is scheduled, so you certainly are not seeing > something not seen before. I don't have the info offhand, though; but you > should be able to find some info about it in the list a

Re: [BackupPC-users] Does BackupPC do any type of file deletion?

2007-10-10 Thread Craig Barratt
Arch writes: > This morning, many of the files were missing off the root partition of one of > our windows servers. I'm sure this is a stupid question but does BackkupPC do > any type of file deletion (archiving, etc) as part of the backup routine? No! The only time it writes to a client is du

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
dan skrev: > toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i > suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup and > is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums.. Wiki might be nice, but forums? Your just forking a community and thats never a good ide

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC: Antivirus suggestion.

2007-10-10 Thread dan
my comment stating that i currently use backuppc and clamav should be taken litterally. i did not just implement it based on the suggestion but have been using clamav to scan backuppc data directories for some time. no integration or modification but simply cron jobs running clamscan on the bac

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC: Antivirus suggestion.

2007-10-10 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, dan wrote on 10.10.2007 at 09:46:23 [Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC: Antivirus suggestion.]: > im actually using backuppc with clamav and it in fact does scan withing zip > and gzip files. that's quite amazing, presuming you mean what you seem to be implying rather than what you write. Actual

Re: [BackupPC-users] Does BackupPC do any type of file deletion?

2007-10-10 Thread dan
it does not. the only writing that is done is during a restore, and then files are added but not deleted. i would suspect another problem first. On 10/10/07, Arch Willingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This morning, many of the files were missing off the root partition of one > of our windows

Re: [BackupPC-users] error in backuppc

2007-10-10 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, first of all: it's *not* an error in BackupPC. I understand that the subject line was meant to be plain uninformative, probably wanting to be ignored, but that failed. Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote on 09.10.2007 at 13:23:41 [Re: [BackupPC-users] error in backuppc]: > Varuna Nohar wrote: >

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread John Medway, Rim Semiconductors
A wiki could be cool, but I only visit forums if they come up on a Google hit when I am looking for info. I make an account to read things then, if I need to, and abandon it immediately after. I never use forums otherwise. At 07:42 AM 10/10/2007, Doug Lytle wrote: >dan wrote: > > i think the pr

[BackupPC-users] Does BackupPC do any type of file deletion?

2007-10-10 Thread Arch Willingham
This morning, many of the files were missing off the root partition of one of our windows servers. I'm sure this is a stupid question but does BackkupPC do any type of file deletion (archiving, etc) as part of the backup routine? Thanks! Arch ---

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
i havent research any mail list software but im sure something would integrate with ldap and i think mediawiki can use ldap so it should be feasible. im not sure if our hosting voluteer is knowledgable with ldap. i know im no pro at it! On 10/10/07, Rob Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan,

Re: [BackupPC-users] slow backups with tar

2007-10-10 Thread dan
gotcha. im not sure if it follows hardlinks or not. On 10/10/07, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dan wrote: > > i have used a zfs snapshot and by virtue of zfs it is instant and > > performed as advertised. i have not tried to use the built in nfs stuff > > with zfs at all. i have n

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
Dan, thanks for taking initiative on this. My vote is for a wiki and a mailing list. The mailing list should obviously keep an archive, but ideally be more searchable than the current sourceforge mailing list archive (which I find to be quite painful). If signing up for the mailing list could au

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
i have given my vote(wiki and forums = yes) but i think im done debating the issue. this is all philosophy and philosophical debates rarely change options and theirfore votes on a subject. so the next step here is probably so send a request with the possible solutions to the developers mailing li

Re: [BackupPC-users] out of memory, and slow backups after moving to 3.0

2007-10-10 Thread Nicholas Mistry
Thanks for the info. I did try and search the archives before posting, but the interface through sourceforge was not giving me results that were pertinent to my problem. I will do some more digging and see what i can find. -N -- Nicholas Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 10, 2007, at 1

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Paul Fox
les wrote: > Neither forums nor email lists are great for accumulating answers to > recurring problems in a way that others can find them. A wiki is > perfect for that but it takes some manual intervention to gather > information out of the the mail list and put it there in a more usable

Re: [BackupPC-users] RE backuppc and windows clients

2007-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In my case it's working with SMB and RSYNCD but not with RSYNC with SSH. > > However, I think I saw that OpenSSH (with sshwindows, software (SSH > Server) that you need on your windows client) > is not available for Win 2k3. I'm not really sur of this information but

Re: [BackupPC-users] out of memory, and slow backups after moving to 3.0

2007-10-10 Thread Ambrose Li
On 08/10/2007, Nicholas Mistry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am seeing a very strange problem after transitioning to backuppc 3.0. > Backups are taking considerably longer, and i am frequently getting out of > memory kernel panics messages dumped to the syslog. This has been reported back when

Re: [BackupPC-users] slow backups with tar

2007-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
dan wrote: > > as a side note, i am testing backuppc on an opensolaris box(nexenta > alpha) with zfs and im really liking it! for those who do not know, > nexenta is basically ubuntu 7.04 with an opensolaris kernel instead of > linux. i am not using compress for backuppc because im doing it o

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Ambrose Li
> I second that. Forums are exceedingly slow, and they require you to remember > to visit them. > They only look good because MS Outlook is so *bad* as a mail client, > anything else looks good by comparison. I suspect this accounts for 90% of > their popularity. I don't like forums either. But I

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Paul Fox wrote: > > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to. > > Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network > > there seems to be a vacuum in the open-source world for a forum > package that properly integrates mailing list access. ya

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
dan wrote: > true enough. > > i have to say that project growth favors a forum over a mailing list. > > i guess i believe that the project should expand to become more well > known and the obvious choice for expansion is forums. I don't think that's obvious at all. Forums are good for people

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread David Nalley
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 11:03:50 Paul Fox wrote: > doug wrote: > > dan wrote: > > > just curious, why not visit forums? > > > > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to. > > Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network > > there see

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
true enough. i have to say that project growth favors a forum over a mailing list. i guess i believe that the project should expand to become more well known and the obvious choice for expansion is forums. i wouldnt say im adamant about having forums and i wont fight you for it but i should at l

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
dan wrote: > im on the other side of the argument. i like forums as they are capable of > attracting people that would not want the 'full involvement' of a mailing > list. i also dont like the mixing of a mailling list and a forum, i think > they both have their place and are both very good at s

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
I think a wiki would be a definite improvement. I've seen on the list a few times where someone had a good solution to something and they needed to request that it be added to the FAQ. This puts a burden on the developers (since they seem to be the ones in control of the website) and it's not nec

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
im on the other side of the argument. i like forums as they are capable of attracting people that would not want the 'full involvement' of a mailing list. i also dont like the mixing of a mailling list and a forum, i think they both have their place and are both very good at servicing their target

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Doug Lytle wrote: dan wrote: i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to Wiki maybe, Forums I would never visit. +1. Nils Breunese. PGP.sig Description: Dit deel van het bericht is digitaal ondertekend

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Paul Fox
doug wrote: > dan wrote: > > just curious, why not visit forums? > > > > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to. > Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network there seems to be a vacuum in the open-source world for a forum package

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
oops! i never went to backuppc.com before! On 10/10/07, Toni Van Remortel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dan wrote: > > toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i > > suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup > > and is run on php. also phpbb is v

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 10/10 10:43 , Doug Lytle wrote: > dan wrote: > > just curious, why not visit forums? > > > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to. > Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network > connection or the forums are down, I can still access my

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Doug Lytle
dan wrote: > just curious, why not visit forums? > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to. Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network connection or the forums are down, I can still access my archive. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Th

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Doug Lytle
dan wrote: > i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster > growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to Wiki maybe, Forums I would never visit. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Doug Lytle
dan wrote: > i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster > growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to Wiki maybe, Forums I would never visit. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Toni Van Remortel wrote: dan wrote: toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup and is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums.. Yes. I was planning on MediaWiki and phpbb :-) I thought phpBB

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Toni Van Remortel
dan wrote: > toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i > suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup > and is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums.. Yes. I was planning on MediaWiki and phpbb :-) > who on the backuppc project would we ne

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup and is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums.. who on the backuppc project would we need to talk to? have them do forums.backuppc.com also, is the back

Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread Toni Van Remortel
dan wrote: > i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster > growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to throw that out > there. if someone can host it there are a few really nice wikis and > forums in php out there. very easy to setup! also, i would be > w

Re: [BackupPC-users] slow backups with tar

2007-10-10 Thread dan
i guess i have never seen these kinda of numbers for the transfers! what kind of hardware is being used? is this some old p3 500mhz or something? i only have experience with backuppc on much more modern hardware. my current setup is a dual core opteron 2ghz with 2 Gb ram and 4 sata drives in rai

Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup schedule per machine?

2007-10-10 Thread dan
i think i came to that conclusion also...i did just upgrade to the newest version(ubuntu 7.04 doesnt have it, had to pull backports) and was browsing through the web interface and it clicked. balckout times! thanks for the response rob. btw, rob owens, i work with a guy named Robert Owens, he go

[BackupPC-users] wiki and forums

2007-10-10 Thread dan
i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to throw that out there. if someone can host it there are a few really nice wikis and forums in php out there. very easy to setup! also, i would be willing to 'assist' in adm

Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup schedule per machine?

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
I believe the wakeup schedule is a server-specific setting. You can set different blackout periods per host, though. A wakeup only means that the server checks to see if anything needs to be backed up, it doesn't mean that it *will* back something up. That only happens if all conditions are righ

Re: [BackupPC-users] RE backuppc and windows clients

2007-10-10 Thread dan
maybe i wasnt very clear but i dont actually use rsync and ssh for the windows machines, i just use rsyncd on backuppc and deltacopy on the windows machines. i have done the same with the cygwin rsyncd for windows but deltacopy is a much nicer wrapper. does that clear it up? i have not tried to

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC: Antivirus suggestion.

2007-10-10 Thread dan
im actually using backuppc with clamav and it in fact does scan withing zip and gzip files. On 10/10/07, Adam Goryachev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > dan wrote: > > > 3) To scan on the backuppc server, you would need to uncompress them > and > >

Re: [BackupPC-users] slow backups with tar

2007-10-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
> On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi when backing-up my local host using .tar it would sometimes take 3 days > > or more. > > I only know this because of disk usage.the hd led is constantly on. It > > this normal? I once experimented a lot with archiving the entire Bac

Re: [BackupPC-users] out of memory, and slow backups after moving to 3.0

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
I'm running BackupPC 3.0 on Debian Etch and on Debian Lenny. My machines have more RAM than you (1GB), but I haven't had any problems with them. Have you confirmed that there is actually a transfer taking place? You can either use iftop to monitor network traffic, or use "du -csh /var/lib/backup

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC backs up self, but not other machines

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
John, I found the post I made a while back where the same thing was happening to me. Unfortunately, it's not very descriptive. It only says that I misconfigured my /etc/sudoers file. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=46B9C3FF.1010404%40bio-chemvalve.com&forum_name=backupp

Re: [BackupPC-users] Your opinion about Samba / Rsync (+ SSH) / Rsyncd

2007-10-10 Thread Rob Owens
I prefer to always use rsync with SSH because it encrypts all the transfered data. But on my Windows machines I didn't have time to set up Cygwin with an ssh server, so I'm using the rsyncd package that is downloadable from the BackupPC sourceforge site. (rsyncd transmits data unencrypted). I'll

[BackupPC-users] RE backuppc and windows clients

2007-10-10 Thread romain . pichard
Hello Daniel, It will be very nice if I could explain you exactly step by step how to make working a backup through rsync and ssh on win client but I tried bit it didn't work. In my case it's working with SMB and RSYNCD but not with RSYNC with SSH. However, I think I saw that OpenSSH (with ssh