Re: [BackupPC-users] Update 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 debian

2008-03-12 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > On 03/11 10:57 , Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: >> Dale King wrote: >> >>> Old thread I know but I was thinking about the current situation (at >>> least >>> in debian) with config.pl being changed at each upgrade. >> >> I'd file a bug with the Debian packager or

[BackupPC-users] How to Find a Host in BackupPC-3.1.0beta

2008-03-12 Thread kantijena
Now I run that Backuppc on root . Also i had try to run that as a backuppc and BackupPC_Admin user . But still the problem is dere.Plz tell where i have to make changes to get it properly. Also i make a changes in httpd.conf file that username -backuppc and group-apache. . After i made changes

Re: [BackupPC-users] Update 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 debian

2008-03-12 Thread Martin Leben
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: > Dale King wrote: > >> Old thread I know but I was thinking about the current situation (at >> least >> in debian) with config.pl being changed at each upgrade. > > I'd file a bug with the Debian packager or is this normal behavior on > Debian? Hi, When upgr

Re: [BackupPC-users] Update 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 debian

2008-03-12 Thread Dale King
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:16:17AM +0100, Martin Leben wrote: > When upgrading a Debian package the package is NOT allowed to silently make > changes to config files. You should get a question about whether you want to > keep your file, replace with the new, diff them or escape to a shell. > > W

[BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
Some questions have been raised about installing from source vs. installing from a package and why I don't believe it's good to install directly from source. I will post my reasons here. I will first point out that nothing prevents you from building your own package. It's not that difficult to bui

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Les Mikesell
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > Some questions have been raised about installing from source vs. installing > from a package and why I don't believe it's good to install directly from > source. I will post my reasons here. I agree in general, but I look at it as more of a question of whether I

Re: [BackupPC-users] Update 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 debian

2008-03-12 Thread Ambrose Li
On 12/03/2008, Dale King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I find difficult is remembering which changes were mine. Yes, I > probably should comment them better, but then I still need to merge by > hand. To me it seemed like the original poster [1] didn't really know if > he'd changed config.p

Re: [BackupPC-users] Small patch to graph the pool size (v2 patch)

2008-03-12 Thread Ludovic Drolez
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 07:41:37PM +0100, Knaupp, Thomas wrote: > Hello Ludovic, > > maybe a stupid question: > can I patch backuppc (3.1.0) that is already patched with your first > version? No, Nicholas' patch is not compatible with mine. You have to undo the 1st patch (patch -r) and apply Nich

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Ambrose Li
On 12/03/2008, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - It allows you to easily know when a security patch is available, by using > one of the managers like apt, up2date, yum, etc. Unless the package has been abandoned by the packager, and you found out that there should have been

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Stephen Joyce
Both the use of a package manager and compiling from source both have their places. Personally, after years of installing everything from source, I now use packages for most software. There are a few pieces of software which aren't available in .debs, but it's fairly easy to roll your own from

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/12 08:17 , Les Mikesell wrote: > Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > > > Some questions have been raised about installing from source vs. installing > > from a package and why I don't believe it's good to install directly from > > source. I will post my reasons here. > > I agree in general, bu

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/12 10:14 , Stephen Joyce wrote: > Personally, after years of installing everything from source, I now use > packages for most software. I went through the same process myself, after spending a lot of time doing things the hard way, then learning from people who are more experienced than my

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Les Mikesell
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > >> and building locally allows you to stay >> versions ahead or behind the distro-packaged one according to your needs > > This is true, and there are times you need to do this. For those instances, > build your own package. Your fellow administrators, and your s

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/12 09:42 , Ambrose Li wrote: > On 12/03/2008, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - It allows you to easily know when a security patch is available, by using > > one of the managers like apt, up2date, yum, etc. > > Unless the package has been abandoned by the packager,

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/12 10:03 , Les Mikesell wrote: > But, the extra steps in building your own package are just more places > where things can go wrong I find it much easier to fix a broken package than a broken tarball installation; because when you remove the broken package you're more likely to get all the

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
I put forth my listed points (and a few more) at this page: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/install_from_package I put it under the off-topic section since it really is off-topic for the list. I invite others to contribute their views to it; perhaps in a section underneath which offers count

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from apackage

2008-03-12 Thread Jack
The great thing about compiling it on your machine is you KNOW that it is compiled using YOUR libraries, and does not make assumptions about other 'supported' libraries being installed. If you 'tweak' the config, you can even get it optimized for your CPU and leave out some 'features' you don't ne

[BackupPC-users] remove

2008-03-12 Thread CK Consulting
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Update 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 debian

2008-03-12 Thread Justin Best
On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Martin Leben wrote: When upgrading a Debian package the package is NOT allowed to silently make changes to config files. This has been my experience working with the Debian packages. It always asks, when it has a new config.pl that it wants to push out, and a

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > I put forth my listed points (and a few more) at this page: > > http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/install_from_package > > I put it under the off-topic section since it really is off-topic > for the > list. I invite others to contribute their views to it; perh

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/12 07:30 , Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: > Woah, this is becoming a large thread. I hope I'm not the one causing > this by replying to the 'bad admin' statement. I just wanted to let > you know that BackupPC is probably the only piece of software in our > infrastructure that I install

Re: [BackupPC-users] incorrect backup method initiated

2008-03-12 Thread Paul Mantz
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Mantz wrote: > > > I'm trying to back up my home directory to my local machine, and I am > > trying to diagnose this error. I want to back up via rsync and have > > set $Conf{XferMethod} appropriately, b

Re: [BackupPC-users] How to Find a Host in BackupPC-3.1.0beta

2008-03-12 Thread Les Mikesell
kantijena wrote: > Now I run that Backuppc on root . Also i had try to run that as a backuppc > and BackupPC_Admin user . Did you set $Conf{CgiAdminUser} to some user in your main config.pl file and also configure you web server so you can log in with that user name? The name must be accep

Re: [BackupPC-users] Update 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 debian

2008-03-12 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justin Best wrote: > On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Martin Leben wrote: > >> When upgrading a Debian package the package is NOT allowed to silently >> make >> changes to config files. > > This has been my experience working with the Debian packages. I

Re: [BackupPC-users] compiling from source vs. installing from a package

2008-03-12 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: >> I couldn't find a >> repository that carries a recent version of BackupPC for CentOS 4 and >> I never mastered the art of packaging stuff myself. I tried it, but >> found documentation on creating your own RPM's was contradicting >> other >> documentation on cre

[BackupPC-users] How to Find a Host in BackupPC-3.1.0beta

2008-03-12 Thread kantijena
plz tell me where i have to set $Conf{CgiAdminUser}. I have gone through the perl.configure.pl file and also i will made some changes dere but nothing will be happened. And i had make some changes in #vi/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf that username is backuppc and group name is apache. After that i

Re: [BackupPC-users] How to Find a Host in BackupPC-3.1.0beta

2008-03-12 Thread Les Mikesell
kantijena wrote: > plz tell me where i have to set $Conf{CgiAdminUser}. The location depends on where you installed backuppc. It will be in a file named config.pl. There are some instructions here: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#step_3__setting_up_config_pl > I have gone t