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How others can call us the main-stream Baha'is? Any individual could
be either a Baha'i or non-Baha'i. There is nothing in between.
I don't think we can expect non-Baha'is to accept that premise, Firouz.
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I think by using the word
mainstream in front of Baha'is we are creating disunity.
It's a good point, but it will only cause disunity if the Bahais
think that the mainstream Bahais are some core group within the Bahai
community.
Covenant-breaker is a term that
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This is a Muslim group
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So basically Ibn Ishaq agrees that Nakhlah was intended as a reconnaissance
mission.
Bahais, wake up already. Gilberto and Matt are just two examples, but
Muslims are on a reconnaissance mission here, have recruited others, and are
recruiting people here, to
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[mailto:bounce-549420-27...@list.jccc.edu] On Behalf Of Iskandar Hai, M.D.
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Subject: Re: nakhlah raid was Re: Stealth Jihad
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I find the idea
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Khazeh sends with spellings checked this time. Please discard the last one
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Sent: 31 December 2010 06:26
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Dr Hai wrote:
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I find the idea of reconnaissance missions, in 624, quite amusing to say the
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Gilberto and Matt are just two examples, but
Muslims are on a reconnaissance mission here, have recruited others, and are
recruiting people here, to attack the Bahais where it hurts, from within.
If so, you are likely one of them.
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And the only thing I beg of Gilberto Simpson is that he should not provoke
simple and hopefully pure souls like me by writing *Haifan Baha’is* as in
his letter of December the 21st **Naison, I don't think you got what I
intended to say. Once you've chosen to be a
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. Would it be offensive to
say mainstream Bahais?
That's the phrase I prefer.
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. Would it be offensive to
say mainstream Bahais?
That's the phrase I prefer
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On 31 Dec 2010 at 16:20, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
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I don't have a problem with avoiding the phrase. It wasn't meant to be
provocative or insulting. But as an outsider to the conflicts between
different groups which all claim to follow
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there are the denominations
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Dear Susan,
Yes, I know that most are not organizations. My point was that the single word
Baha'i is easy to identify how the group of people who recognize and obey the
UHJ. but, well, it is a relative perception.
BUPC is the neal Chase's group, rigth? Is the alias
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BUPC is the neal Chase's group, rigth?
The BUPC has splintered into several groups since Leland Jensen died.
I think Neal Chase's group might be the largest.
Is the alias J.T. Lamb his?
That I don't know.
How many members does this group?
I don't think any of
2 cents.
And Happy Birthday on Monday!
Tim
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Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 12:15:35 AM
Subject: Re: nakhlah raid
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Calling Baha'is mainstream or Haifan, implies that there is some
validity to the covenant breakers claims.
I don't think mainstream implies that. I think it implies that at most
these other groups are offshoots.
And Happy Birthday on Monday!
Thanks.
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On 1/1/2011 12:15 PM, Susan Maneck wrote:
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Personally I find mainstream Baha'is offensive too. There is only one group
of Baha'is and that is simply called Baha'is. Other groups should be called
covenant-breakers.
The problem Firouz, is
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From “Fascist-Islamophobia”: A Case Study in Totalitarian Demonization - Part 3
by Dr. Robert Dickson Crane
The true facts of this “notorious” event were quite different, and the
lessons to be learned from it were the exact opposite of Spencer’s
conclusions. This
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I find the idea of reconnaissance missions, in 624, quite amusing to say
the least.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Gilberto Simpson
gilberto.simp...@gmail.com wrote:
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From “Fascist-Islamophobia”: A Case Study in Totalitarian
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. iskandar@gmail.com
wrote:
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I find the idea of reconnaissance missions, in 624, quite amusing to say
the least.
Since you like Ibn Ishaq, here's how he actually describes the event:
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