Steve wrote:
...As you stir clockwise sing in ascending tones into the stirring pot and
as you stir counter clock wise
sing in descending tones...
Thanks for the advice. I usually run preps through a stack of small
flowforms instead of stirring - would this be satisfactory (don't know
I would like to obtain some 'official' European preps please, that I can
work up into homeopathics. At least save the ones that are there now for
the
future.
Where does one buy them??
Glen - 'Official' preps can be bought in UK from Biodynamic Supplies (Paul
van Midden), Lorieneen, Bridge of
My garlic has quite rapidly developed an alarming infestation of rust.
Fortunately, I'm about to harvest it and can burn the foliage, but it looks
as though it might spread to nearby leeks. I'll try spraying with an
infusion of fresh mare's-tail tomorrow (although mare's-tail is growing in
Folks - I don't know about the illegality of making the preps but I suppose
it has been technically illegal to use them, at least in the UK, for some
longish time. Correctly speaking, only substances/chemicals approved by the
Ministry of Agriculture and so labelled may be used, even in private
Gil wrote:
Hi! Tony,
It work well. If using tyres, cut the walls out. If you do not cut the wall
out of the tyres, you can create a space which becomes a void for the use
of rodents/ spiders/ reptiles etc.
Gil - I think that Bob Flowerdew leaves the tyres intact, packing the cavity
quite
...Even if you don't have lots of space, you can enjoy an amazing yield
of potatoes by growing in a container...
Bob Flowerdew, the unconventional member of a BBC gardening advice
programme team, uses old motor tyres whose inner cavity is packed with
straw. He starts off with (say) two
Folks - can I be the only one who hadn't heard of A1 and A2 milk until now?
Someone please explain... ! Tony NS.
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...I worked at a petro-chem plant. (So, sue me, I learned a lot there)...
Martha - I'll support you: even more than a billion years ago, I worked in
a lab that used animals. I didn't do anything that I specifically regret,
although I now believe that it was an unnecessary waste of life.
Tony why is it that the poor country bumpkin gets the blame
Lloyd - not blaming the good ole boys, just reporting that the impression we
get is that the pseudo-president and his henchmen are behaving in the same
way. Tony N-S.
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Hey, Tony, help me here. I don't really understand your objection to posts
that you consider off topic.
Can another Tony chip in?
Sorry, folks, but the conception which liberals in Britain have of U.S.
Americans, based largely on the loudest noises which reach us from across
the Atlantic, is
Yesterday I flushed a beautiful robin in hoophouse number 1.
Allan - remind me, is the US robin the same as ours in Britain (Erithacus
rubecula)? I've heard the story that nostalgic early settlers gave native
birds the names of British ones which they resemble.Tony N-S.
I don't support the current sabre-rattling by George W and, sadly, our own
Tony Blair, but here are two snippets regarding the London anti-war march:
As to 'official placards only', my daughter's boyfriend attended the march.
He was handed a placard (no personal choice allowed) reading
Reminds me of the story of two mice who fell into a bucket of milk. One
gave up swimming and drowned, the other kept going until it had created an
island of butter, on which it could rest. Same moral - never give up - but
how did this help it get out of the bucket?
Also, no sting in the tail;
A British marine biologist founded the Ghardaqa marine laboratory at
Hurgada, in Egypt at the mouth of the Gulf of Suez, in the early 1930s.
Because he was obviously a professional man and medical care wasn't always
available, the locals often consulted him on health matters, especially in
Martha - Most of our peahens sat very well, although often in secret (away
from the house and well camouflaged in bracken and brushwood); one, rather
exposed, let me build a temporary aviary around her. Another turned up
after a lengthy absence, rather nervous and minus tail-feathers, I
While we're talking birds and roads (if a little OT) perhaps I can mention
the behaviour of our peafowl. We live alongside the road which leads most
directly from the motorway which runs into South Wales (M4) to the
beauty-spots of the Gower peninsula most distant from Swansea. When there
I'm a long-retired marine biologist living on the South Wales (UK) coast.
Even 20 years ago, plankton samples taken off this south-westerly shore
contained more fragments of plastic than plants or animals and, searching
shore windrows for micro-gastropod shells, I again found a high proportion
Martha - Do your guineafowl show any signs of intelligence ? Some years
back, we kept peafowl, guineas and several varieties of fancy pheasant. The
peafowl roosted as high as they could (tall trees, the peak of the roof,
wherever). The pheasants were in large aviaries, mainly to stop them
As the full moon is in Leo on Monday my understanding is that it is the
best day for collecting weed seeds for peppering.
Of course, in the Northern hemisphere, it's a little difficult to find many
weed seeds still on the plant at this time. Would Michael's point about
allowing them to
Hi Tony, if you can get photo attachments, I'll send these 2 (small)
pictures I have of the naked chickens to you. They're a startling
red! They look a bit like very weird flamingos.
Thanks, Martha - no prob., I'd be very interested. Tony.
Deborah - Sorry to be light-hearted about a serious topic, but your
description reminded me of one of our (free-range, much-loved pet Maran
hens) who, for some unknown reason, lost the feathers on her rear end. Her
skin was also bright red, quite startling if she suddenly bent down to peck
in
Deborah and Martha - Two pence worth, largely irrelevant.
The genetics department at Swansea University, where I used to teach marine
biology, kept Tilapia for breeding experiments. They're not enormous fish
(around half to two-thirds the size of farmed trout at most) and seemed
quite happy in
Slightly off the topic, folks in North America and elsewhere might not
realise the enormous tax imposed on motor fuels in the UK. A year or so
back, a run down most of the country was organised to demonstrate the use of
alternative fuels: spent oil from fish-and-chip frying shops was
British milk producers might like to confirm what I remember about the sale
of non-pasteurised milk in the UK: it is prohibited on a casual basis, but
can be sold to individual named customers. Tony N-S.
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Will, Gil et al. - I sometimes open and read Jane's 'news' postings, but
quite often I realise that I'm not too interested and simply select, then
delete them. It takes about 10 seconds. Couldn't you do the same?
Tony N-S.
Folks - I've been following this thread with a mixture of confusion and
sympathy. As a Brit, retired from work, not intending to seek public office
and without neighbours, I have no problem with posting whatever I like to
BDNow whenever it suits me. The tone of some posts suggests that there
...The Great Dictator in the time of... ...McCarthy.
Merla - it was an earlier and even 'greater' dictator: Adolf Hitler. Well
worth seeing!Tony N-S.
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Scoop up the filings and put them in the
stirring vessel...
Ah! Thank you, Steve - I assumed that you beat the filings right into the
endgrain rather than using the log as an anvil. Now I get it... Tony
N-S.
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Steve - sorry to be dim, but do you mean place the log end into the stirring
barrel (maybe actually stir with the log) or add similar filings themselves
- in
To elaborate on Gil's reply, honey contains an enzyme which produces
peroxide, an antibacterial agent. It has thus been widely used as a wound
dressing in folk medicine and in emergency. It carries the additional
advantage of being hygroscopic (ie, it takes up water and thus doesn't dry
Martha writes: If you grab the plant quickly and firmly enough the stinging
hairs are crushed before they can pierce the skin...
So it is said; however, when I firmly grasp a number of small plants during
hand-weeding, I soon become aware that nettles are present!
Do you remember that someone
Thanks, Gil. It happened some while ago, but I'll certainly try it next
time! Tony N-S.
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Gil - thanks for suggesting wind as a means of drying out the weeping from a
cut walnut limb. Ironically, it was wind which broke the branch that I
trimmed.
Cheryl - Because of this, I didn't actually choose the time for 'pruning' -
but maybe I should have waited before tidying the break.
Some could be dried for tea for you and your husband to drink...
Even better, you could make nettle beer (in which the nettles mainly provide
the flavour); when I was a poor junior academic, this was our main tipple.
A couple who were 'real ale' enthusiasts acted all superior about this
If you don't have a commercial sealant (Arbrex in Britain) to hand, you
could scorch the cut (particularly the outer edge within the bark) with a
blowtorch to stop 'weeping' and sterilise the tissues. Tony N-S.
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Tony: Our rule here is no chooks in the veggie patch ever.
Sorry to confuse - I meant that chickens are a useful stage in preparing new
ground or working over beds which have already been harvested. I once
fantasised about offering a garden makeover service using a succession of
animals -
Four requirements for democracy:
1) freedom of press
2) high literacy rate
3) high voter turn-out
4) low infant death rate
How about adding a low level of subscription to a rigid, fundamentalist
faith?
Tony N-S.
Can I put in a word for the Maran? Quite a large bird, mottled grey and
white plumage, intelligent and friendly, laying beautiful brown eggs. A
Maran/Rhode Island Red cross is also a good choice. Tony N-S.
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Allan - Will has voiced an irritation which surely many of us feel about
endless re-copying of previous messages in a thread; it's very easy just to
snip the relevant sentence, even easier to delete the entire shebang before
making one's own contribution. As I've commented previously, it's
'Let off' is not really what
happened at Oaklands.
Well, my final comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek; I guess BD food is much
less popular than GM at the Ministry! Tony N-S.
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While in the UK, during the BSE and Foot and Mouth massacres, I was
visiting
Organic and Radionic Consultants and was told that there had been no case
of
either on an Organic Property. Both only occurred in chemical rich herds
and
flocks.
Gil
Famously, a BD farm in Gloucestershire was
The whole parasite cycle is aided and abbetted by conventional livestock
practices which try to overcome poor management through the regular
administration of anti-parasite toxins. The holistic approach is
substantially different. Couple this with livestock that has been bred for
parasite
John - no offence taken: I can well understand your attitude in the midst
of supposed conspiracies which are both confusing and threatening. Tony
N-S.
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Tony, we shouldn't equate feedlot problems with organically pastured
livestock. There is no equation.
Allan - As I understood it, the problem is alleged to be that outdoor reared
animals are more likely to come into contact with cat faeces. I hadn't
thought of this as a feedlot problem - not
My current New Scientist (26 Oct) has a disturbing story about the parasite
Toxoplasma gondii. Apparently between 30 and 60 percent of humans carry it
(15-20% in the UK and US, 35% in Australia) and it has been regarded as
harmless except to pregnant women (it can cross the placenta and damage
Per Garp - Fig trees (at least in my part of the world, southern UK) are
more of a large shrub than a tree; much of the foliage and fruit would be
easily accessible to sheep etc. The bark is quite tender - mice have chewed
away at the one in my garden. Maybe in commercial fig orchards things
The Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing out
many peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon,
notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the fact
that for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the
Sunny (in particular) - Even amongst fairly mainstream sufferers, attitude
and a willingness to accept unconventional therapies seem to have very
positive results. An acquaintance with colon cancer was given only months
to live but, with the help of a very positive attitude and a diet worked
Thanks, folks, for useful responses. I'll check out recommended websites
asap; it was a matter of curiosity, I'm glad to say that (so far as I
know!) I have no immediate need for mistletoe/Iscador therapy. As to the
queried efficacy of this preparation, I guess it's the usual problem of
But what does it do for or to the animals? Christy
Sorry - my interest was only in the confusing use of the term 'organic'.
What little I know is that the element itself is practically non-toxic, but
compounds (at least, inorganic compounds) can be extremely toxic - maybe
that's why it
Selenite and selenate are inorganic chemicals. Simple blends of these with
yeast do not make organically bound selenium...
Ah! So it's 'organic' in the chemical sense, not the sense normally
understood on BDNow. Thanks for the elucidation.
Tony N-S.
I always thought selenium was a naturally occurring mineral...
Yes, Sharon, that was my point: either someone's gone over the top with
this (how can a naturally occurring mineral NOT be 'organic' in the
commonly-accepted sense relevant to agriculture?) or there is a clash with
the academic
Organic selenium approved for feeds
Sorry to be naive (again!), but how the hell can you have 'organic' selenium
?Tony N-S.
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(somewhat off-topic) - Lloyd: As a once conventionally trained natural
scientist now (at least to a large extent) converted, perhaps I might
comment that, presenting a paper at a conference on oil pollution and its
biological impact, I referred to an assumption in one of my previous
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This attitude of eradicating everything that stands in our way or
everything that causes us some discomfort is really the true nature of
the
sickness
of humanity.
Around here people perceive snakes as bad and so they kill them
ruthlessly.
My
Eve - Before this thread runs completely away from the substance of its
title, might I ask whether you refute Darwin's theory or merely deplore its
influence on materialist thinking?
I'm not an anthroposophist and, frankly, I find much of RS's more
philosophical/spiritual writing extremely
Hey, fellas! I might be naive about the acceptability of genetically
modified hypoallergenic soya, but I rather resent my message becoming the
root of a thread about your pseudo-president's Ahrimanic version of Teddy
Roosevelt's big stick... Tony N-S.
I have just been reading a report in New Scientist (14 Sept, p.7) about
research from USDA and Pioneer Hi-Bred resulting in the removal, in part by
genetic manipulation, of proteins which cause most allergic reactions to
soya. I deplore GMOs for all the usual reasons but wonder whether this
Interested to read about inhibiton of germination under eucalypts. Is this
restricetd to certain species? Is there also inhibition of growth of plants
spreading in from beyond the sphere of influence?
I ask because I have a shelter-belt of large (?) snow gums, plus several
single ones
Roger - Good luck with your botanical reference collection. Do you include
erroneous information - for example, the advice to plant caper spurge to
discourage moles? It still crops up regularly in popular gardening
magazines and arises from an ancient herbal (possibly Culpeper?) prescribing
Regularly since 17 August. The last attachment I received was 12 August.
roger
Me too, Allan. Surely it can't be an ISP thing, as we're on so many
different ones?
Is there any way we can opt either to receive attachments or have them
stripped, as part of the Subscribe request?
Thanks, Roger, for the info. I've been offline for a couple of days but
immediately clicked on the link (which turns out to be W.H.Smith online, one
of UK's biggest bookshop chains) and ordered the paperback without any
apparent problem: will report back when (if?) it's delivered.
Sharon - Yes, I realise what you'd done: do it myself, sometimes,
unthinkingly! Retaining the original subject field does make it a little
hard to follow, as the nature of the thread changes, tho'. Best to give the
current topic plus (was... )in brackets. It's sometimes a bit hard to know
Today's 'New Scientist' (as I've said before, not noticeably anti-GMO) is
very concerned about both the concept and the control of genetically
modifying plants to produce therapeutic drugs. They ask, why use food
plants? (Answer - much more is known about growing them). They point out
Sorry to appear as a whining old fogey, but could we please remember to
change the subject field when the topic changes? The latest post has
nothing at all to do with the original topic and it's very confusing if one
is trying to follow that original argument! Tony N-S.
Lloyd - thanks for the counterblast! I'm now better informed. I've been
involved to the small extent that: (1) my uncle was burnt out of his
Queensland home some years ago by forest fires and
(2) I've been living in South Wales for some 40 years, fortunately without
any pressing need to
Antipodean subscribers might be interested in the 'Opinion - Interview' item
in the current New Scientist (22nd June), which features Tim Flannery. I'd
not heard of him, although you might already be muttering Oh, him! in a
range of tones from enthusiasm to disgust. He thinks it's time to
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:48:09 -0700
The article pointed out an interesting point -- I doubt that glacial acetic
acid qualifies as organic for purposes of certification.
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Thank Tony,
Just the sort of thing I am looking for. I will be
looking it up at the
Fortunately, we don't have poison ivy in Britain.
I use a propane flame-gun against weeds, although it needs multiple
applications for deep-rooted ones.
I've not before thought to try this but, during my long professional
interest in coastal oil pollution, it has been apparent that a single
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Greetings Tony,
I wonder if this is the GE variety that has contraceptive properties--or
does anyone have any idea what
Peter - You might like to look at the current New Scientist magazine (not
noted as being anti-GM!), dated 15th June, pp 14-17 'Special Report -
Genetic contamination', which covers the original paper in Nature and the
controversy over its subsequent trashing. It appears that a dispute over
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