Re: CEC balancing for ornamentals

2002-03-14 Thread Rambler
Rambler wrote: > > Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia wrote: > > . > > What is your CEC by the way ? > > I need to know also your humus content. > > Tell me any figure regarding Ca, Mg, K, Na and also your micro nutrient > > levels such as Fe, Mn, Zn, Cu and Boron. Once your soil is put in the > > Albrech

RE: CEc balancing I for ornamental

2002-03-10 Thread Stephen Barrow
Jane, Yes, the Rescue Remedy is diluted 10 drops per litre of water and sprayed over the transplants, as soon as possible after transplanting, and then last thing again before the end of the day. Stephen Barrow

Re: CEc balancing i for ornamental

2002-03-07 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Dear Tony Robinson, The idea of using those ratios came to Dr Albrecht´s mind after extracting the bases ( cations with an alcaline reaction like Na, K, Ca and Mg ) from the humus portion of the soil ( Kinsey´s personnal communication ). He then thought : Why not expand those ratios to all CEC w

Re: CEc balancing i for ornamental

2002-03-07 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Dear Tony Robinson, The idea of using those ratios came to Dr Albrecht´s mind after extracting the bases ( cations with an alcaline reaction like Na, K, Ca and Mg ) from the humus portion of the soil ( Kinsey´s personnal communication ). He then thought : Why not expand those ratios to all CEC w

Re: CEc balancing I for ornamental

2002-03-07 Thread jsherry
I assume you dilute this a great deal? Jane - Original Message - From: "Stephen Barrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: RE: CEc balancing I for ornamental An aside to Lloyd Charles' answer to T

RE: CEc balancing I for ornamental

2002-03-07 Thread Stephen Barrow
An aside to Lloyd Charles' answer to Tony Robinson, re the use of Rescue Remedy. I spray it on any transplants to help them overcome the transplant shock. Sounds rather crazy, but it works. Stephen Barrow

Re: CEc balancing i for ornamental

2002-03-06 Thread Rex Teague
Tony and fellow Kiwis On 7 Mar 02, Lloyd Charles wrote: > It might be useful to direct a question to Elaine Ingham... FYI... Elaine will be in NZ later this month. I've only learned about this in the last few days, it maybe old news to you? The itinerary includes Tauranga, Cambridge, Napie

Re: CEc balancing i for ornamental

2002-03-06 Thread Lloyd Charles
From: Rambler > > I am part way through reading Albrecht vol 1 and have some questions. > > 1. Are there different CEC ratios for different crops? Technically the answer is probably yes but I believe if you get somewhere in the ballpark range with CEC numbers then it is likely that something else

CEc balancing i for ornamental

2002-03-06 Thread Rambler
Hi Lloyd, Jose, Tim I am part way through reading Albrecht vol 1 and have some questions. 1. Are there different CEC ratios for different crops? 2 Are there different CEC ratios for different soil Ph? 3 Are there different CEC ratios for different soils? I grow ornamental crops ie perennia

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-02-03 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
That is much better. This University I do know. Even though it just does not justify him publishing wrong information.   Jose   > surely knows this as he earned a doctorate in agriculture at Pulman> University in eastern Washington state. That's a very good ag > college, I> might

RE: CEC Balancing

2002-02-02 Thread Hugh Lovel
>Hugh, > >Thanks for the comments on the Albrecht Model and Walter Godstein's "slip" - >we all make mistakes. > >Maybe you, Dave or somebody else could give us a brief resume of Walter's >work. While his mistake may seem to be inexcusable, I feel that the record >should be set "straight", as he i

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-02-01 Thread barrylia
> surely knows this as he earned a doctorate in agriculture at Pulman> University in eastern Washington state. That's a very good ag > college, I> might add. Correction for accuracy: that's Washington State University in Pullman, Washington.   I believe Walter's degree advisor was John Rega

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-02-01 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Hi Michael, I believe you have put it in the right way. A Model is a guideline. Something to be used as a pathway. Every place is difference and every product is a different one. I am amazed I just got back an analysis of crushed ancient oyster shell and their Neutralizing Power is 113% that is e

CEC Balancing

2002-02-01 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Hi Christiane and List, I believe that Mr Goldstein have lost one great opportunity when it comes to comment the so called Albrecht Model. The Model is good in my oppinion and it works. However, I cannot accept that in all the world with plenty of good labs only two labs are capable of doing the

Re: Re CEC Balancing/Goldstein Mg

2002-02-01 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Dear Cristiane, I believe that what happens in the soil is exactly the opposite . let me illustrate the point. Cations are attached ( adsorbed not absorbed ) to the clay colloids by their positive charge. Calcium and Magnesium have a double positive charge and therefore they can push away single

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-02-01 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
Only a few articles from " The Albrecht Papers" are available in the net I guess through that soil and health library. The four volumes need to be bough from Acres USA and they must be readed folks. I believe I have been exposed to Albrecht ideas to a great deal I did read several of his articles

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-01-31 Thread bdnow
Please FWD: Dear Hugh, Jose, etal, I'm a little confused. In my memory, one of the Albrect saying was; "Lime, lime and no manure, make the father rich and the son poor", which is basically showing how easily lime sucks up and burns organic matter content. To open up another can of worms, Dr

CEC Balancing

2002-01-31 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
ow all that. If you are to play with Ca/Mg ratios you should account for a decreased availability of micro elements at higher pH. How are you going to do that I simply don´t know but one should devise a way to take that effect into consideration. I know that Mr Goldstein have written about the e

RE: CEC Balancing

2002-01-31 Thread Stephen Barrow
Hugh, Thanks for the comments on the Albrecht Model and Walter Godstein's "slip" - we all make mistakes. Maybe you, Dave or somebody else could give us a brief resume of Walter's work. While his mistake may seem to be inexcusable, I feel that the record should be set "straight", as he is well r

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-01-31 Thread Hugh Lovel
Dear Jose and List, I haven't read the Goldstein article, but I've talked with Walter on this topic on other occasions. First I'm surprised if Walter referred to Magnesium as a monovalent cation. It is in the IIa family of elements along with calcium and is Mg++. Walter surely knows this as he e

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-01-31 Thread Lloyd Charles
Subject: Re: CEC Balancing Dave - pr'haps Jose got a bit excited but when somebody questions the validity of Albrecht's work then at least they should please get the chemistry correct. All my chem books have Mg++ Dave Robinson wrote > Walter is a very careful researcher and

Re: CEC Balancing

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Robison
th common courtesy and respect. I interpret Walter's article as in no way disagreeing with CEC balancing, but as saying there is no evidence for the particular level of Ca that Albrecht identified as "ideal". I think if you discussed the matter you would find that Walter'

CEC Balancing

2002-01-30 Thread Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia
I have glanced the article which was kindly sent to me by Dave Robinson or the Walter Goldstein's article from Sept Biodynamics " Cation Balancing : Is it beneficial or Bogus ?" It came to me as a surprise because I had this magazine in high respect. To my knowledge they don´t have any one to revi

Re: CEC balancing

2002-01-25 Thread Boyer Patrick
Dave Robison a écrit : > > I scanned up Walter Goldstein's article from Sept Biodynamics. If > anyone wants, respond to me personally, ie) you don't have to bother > the entire list. > > Etiquette note: we would have a lot less stuff on this list if people > responded with personal notes only to

CEC balancing

2002-01-25 Thread Dave Robison
I scanned up Walter Goldstein's article from Sept Biodynamics. If anyone wants, respond to me personally, ie) you don't have to bother the entire list. Etiquette note: we would have a lot less stuff on this list if people responded with personal notes only to the individual, rather than broadcasti