RE: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-15 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
Verio, the world's largest ISP. -Original Message- From: Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Matt Wright's formMail On Mon, 13 May 2002 16:07:54 +0100, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: I've just been informned by my ISP

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-15 Thread Kevin Meltzer
Yay us! (I work for Verio) Cheers, Kevin On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:40:45AM -0500, Camilo Gonzalez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something similar to: Verio, the world's largest ISP. Can you please tell me which ISP this is. I'm tring to keep a list of ISPs that have come to their senses and

RE: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-15 Thread Dave Cross
On Wed, 15 May 2002 16:34:48 +0100, Camilo Gonzalez wrote: I emailed Mr. Wright concerning the security oversights and the fact Verio won't let me us his script anymore and have yet to hear from him. How assholic can one get? Is he still alive? Does anyone know what he's doing now? To be

RE: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-15 Thread Scot Robnett
Somebody just said assholic. I like that word. Should it be used when evaluating code? It could escalate something like this. :) loose unclear/uncommented buggy/unstable contains security flaws completely unsafe stupid assholic --- Outgoing

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-14 Thread Dave Cross
On Mon, 13 May 2002 17:14:03 +0100, Drieux wrote: On Monday, May 13, 2002, at 08:52 , Kevin Meltzer wrote: try the rewrite from NMS: http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Kevin which version of the code is the 'problem' version? what is the current specific 'security' issue?

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-14 Thread drieux
volks, thanks for the scoop on what is what... I'd prefer a gooder reason to a jihaud - and I think a sufficiency of explanation has been presented. I R new to CGI in perl - sort of had it thrust upon me since 'well you know perl' On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 10:45 , Dave Cross wrote: On

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Lisa Nyman
Hi, Not Matt's Scripts http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml -lisa -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread fliptop
Camilo Gonzalez wrote: I've just been informned by my ISP that Matt Wright's formMail will no longer be allowed on any of their servers due to glaring security concerns. I know now I shouldn't have used it but back then I was stupid and not a subscriber to this fine list. Let this serve as a

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Meltzer
try the rewrite from NMS: http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Kevin On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:07:54AM -0500, Camilo Gonzalez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something similar to: I've just been informned by my ISP that Matt Wright's formMail will no longer be allowed on any of their servers

RE: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
Thank you all for this link. -Original Message- From: Kevin Meltzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:53 AM To: Camilo Gonzalez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Matt Wright's formMail try the rewrite from NMS: http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Kevin

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread drieux
On Monday, May 13, 2002, at 08:52 , Kevin Meltzer wrote: try the rewrite from NMS: http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Kevin which version of the code is the 'problem' version? what is the current specific 'security' issue? there was a security update to v1.92 on 04/21/02 has

RE: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
on its servers. -Original Message- From: drieux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:14 AM To: cgi Subject: Re: Matt Wright's formMail On Monday, May 13, 2002, at 08:52 , Kevin Meltzer wrote: try the rewrite from NMS: http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Kevin

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Meltzer
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:14:03AM -0700, drieux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something similar to: which version of the code is the 'problem' version? what is the current specific 'security' issue? there was a security update to v1.92 on 04/21/02 has there been some new issue arise??? since

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread drieux
On Monday, May 13, 2002, at 09:21 , Camilo Gonzalez wrote: [..] The problems seem to be that it uses the Referer environmental variable to exclude spammers and it gives the option of encoding data in the URL. I've been told both are considered security risks. My ISP does not think even the

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread fliptop
drieux wrote: or am I missing something here??? i think what you're missing is there's no point in trying to justify running any version of any of matt's code - use the drop in replacements at sourceforge or take the (quite unnecessary) risk. it's as simple as that. -- To

[sorta OT] Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Kelly
On 5/13/02 10:49 AM, fliptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think what you're missing is there's no point in trying to justify running any version of any of matt's code - use the drop in replacements at sourceforge or take the (quite unnecessary) risk. it's as simple as that. Ok, I have a

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread John Brooking
I must confess I'm not intimately familiar with the script in question, so I don't completely understand what the code snippet that drieux included does, therefore how it is or is not sufficiently secure. However, I have some more general comments in the way of clarification. It seems to me that

RE: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Camilo Gonzalez
- From: John Brooking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:53 PM To: cgi Subject: Re: Matt Wright's formMail I must confess I'm not intimately familiar with the script in question, so I don't completely understand what the code snippet that drieux included does, therefore

Re: [sorta OT] Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread fliptop
Michael Kelly wrote: Ok, I have a question now: What, exactly, started the vendetta that the entire Perl community seems to have against Matt's Script Archives? Is it the constant security concerns, or is there something else? there is no vendetta that i know of. the nms project at

Re: [sorta OT] Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Meltzer
Ack.. I used to have a nice long, detailed reason why (I think I may have sent it to someone on this list at some point who asked me the same question). To sum up.. Matts code is bad. It has various security holes, is not maintained, and is in Perl 4. The 'vendetta' has come from years of him

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Bruce Ferrell
Just to throw jet fuel on the fire... cuz they come up on a google search for: cgi perl counter and nms doesn't! :) Seriously, I do use them (ok, did until now) because they're handy, don't spew errors and I can understand the code. Now that I know they have problems, probably not anymore...

Re: Matt Wright's formMail

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Meltzer
Heya, On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 04:42:55PM -0700, Bruce Ferrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something similar to: Just to throw jet fuel on the fire... cuz they come up on a google search for: cgi perl counter and nms doesn't! :) And that is one of the problems some in the community have