At 07:07 PM 6/12/2003 -0700, Lisa Ebnet wrote:
I suggest if you own a berner and want to be part of this study that you
request a kit NOW from either Pat Long or Heidi Parker.
This is a great idea but one thing to watch is the expiration date on the
test tubes. The kit Pat sent me had expired but
i was confused as well. the confusion is that there are two different
studies. this is what jill wrote back to me. Any willing Berner can be
involved! If you send me your mailing address I will send you 2 kits with
instructions how to take the cheek swabs from Woofit and Chi. You will also
have
Vicky,
Molly has already detailed who can help with the Fred Hutchinson study on
histiocytosis, and to make life more complicated, we also have another study for
histio that your two dogs CAN participate in. We are currently working on the
www.bmdca.org website Health section, it is going to
Vicky,
In addition to the histiocytosis research at Fred Hutchinson and Dana Farber, there
are a number of other studies that I can summarize here.
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center has been working for a number of years to map
the canine genome, they have been working in concert with a
There is one school - somewhere in the east but I cannot remember the name,
where they are mapping the canine genome. However they are using boxers.
Evidently there is an even smaller gene pool in boxers than in BMDs and
certain breeders have such records of their lines that they were able to
I suggest if you own a berner and want to be part of this study that you
request a kit NOW from either Pat Long or Heidi Parker. I have had the
unfortunate occasion to have two dogs diagnosed and after several failed
attempts to obtain the necessary kit and instructions the dog died before we
THANK YOU, Ray and Pat for sending in the blood sample of Talee! We do
NEED more blood donations from Berners such as your Talee, who are 10 years
or older and who have never been diagnosed with Malignant Histiocytosis.
The Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center is trying to find the marker
THANK YOU! When I was in Seattle undergoing my own cancer therapy, I had
the opportunity to visit the lab and hear the amazing work they have
already accomplished in identifying certain genes in canines. What was most
interesting was that many canine markers have been found not far from the
If your Berner has been diagnosed with Malignant Histiocytosis and there
is no time to get the kit for the study, you can use the above
instructions for sending blood samples and have your vet supply the two
blood collection tubes.
Joye is so right in how important this study can be. The
Today we mailed off the blood from our 10 1/2 year old Berner Talee for
the Cancer research being done at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research
center.
I'm sure Pat Long has all the latest information in anyone else wants to
take part in this research.
They still need more participants.
Ray Pat
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Ask me how much I hate AOL... g (after 8 yrs. on AOL, it might just be time for a
change. =b) Sorry about the double-posts for those who saw this the first time. =)
I ran across a site (The Mare's Nest) yesterday that states that
Berners are liable to a high incidence of cancer (30% or
I went to the Breed Symposium in Lenzburg and the following is quoted from
the notes by Dr George Padgett.
Forty four separate tumour types have been reported in Berners. However,
7
types account for 81.6% of all tumours reported. They are
Malignant/Systemic
Histiocytosis 30.4%,
So sad
From: Pauline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know if there are any lines of Bernese that
are truly free from this disease?
Pauline,
Just for fun, let's assume that there are 3 lines that are free from histio
and mast cell cancer both. I don't know if this is in the realm of possible
or not,
- Original Message -
From: Pat Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So for fun, let's just
say that 3 berners, Tom, Dick, and Harry, never produced any progeny that
contracted either histio or mast cell.
What do you think might happen if we found this to be the case? And what
might be the
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Pauline wrote:
So, if all lines are affected, where is the decision point
on who to breed and who to neuter?
What might have happened to the offspring if I had bred Hesse?
Where would that have put them cancer possible-wise?
--
In a message dated 12/19/2002 9:19:02 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
when I asked about the why of this (bad luck, genetics,
whatever) there seemed to be a consensus that Berner's were no more liable
to cancer than any other breed.
So, how do I balance the
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From: Jordan S. Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I ran across a site (The Mare's Nest) yesterday that states that
Berners are liable to a high incidence of cancer (30% or so, as I
recollect).
That would be my web site, actually. And as I recall, without checking, I
think I
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Ruth Reynolds wrote:
Prevalence of premature death (before age 7) in the extended family I'm
considering using for breeding or from which I'm considering a companion
animal is very important information to me as a breeder and as a person who
enjoys the companionship of
- Original Message -
From: Jordan S. Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I asked why of Angell and the Vet they w/o skipping a beat
answered, genetics. This is what prompted the question. Now from what I
gather (list answers to my question), unless there is a proclivity for
cancer in a
When I asked why of Angell and the Vet they w/o skipping a beat
answered, genetics. This is what prompted the question. Now from what I
gather (list answers to my question), unless there is a proclivity for
cancer in a breeders line, this is not so.
***I think I understand why one might think
Jordan,
I guess the best answer is, a little of all of the choices. There is
certainly an element of chance, and in at least two of the cancers (mast
cell, histiocytosis) there is also an element of genetics. Maybe some
environmental causes, life style, who knows!
We don't have the answers to
Hi Jordan,
Some advice sought... How might one relate to cancer in a Berner?
Bad luck?
Genetic?
Or, what?
I moderate a group on Yahoo for owners of pets with cancer and have done for
the past three and a half years since my Sam was first diagnosed. Many pet
owners come and go through this
How might one relate to cancer in a Berner? Bad luck? Genetic? Or, what?
Jordan,
You'll probably get as many answers on that as there are people who respond.
I relate to cancer in Berners this way. Two dogs live and work in the same
environment, eat the same foods, drink from the same water
In a message dated 11/20/2002 9:45:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why is that? Is it a no-no to mention kennel names when
dealing with the dreaded diseases?
Not for me. I think it's just the way that list got started.
Arrow (2/14/97 - 12/8/98) is Caroling's
Jean,
For the purpose of this research, it matters a great deal. Histio has
been determined to have a genetic component, and it is the possibility
of finding the genes that drives this research. But I think it's fitting
that Sam's puppy picture is the basis for the one painting, even if it
wasn't
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