[Bess] This is a test, please ignore

2014-10-07 Thread Thomas Morin
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Re: [Bess] (2nd) WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system

2014-10-17 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, This WG last call is closed, and draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system will now be submitted to IESG. Best, -Thomas 03/10/2014 10:33, Thomas Morin : Hello working group, This email starts a Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04 [1]. This last call is related only

[Bess] Request for publication of draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system

2014-10-17 Thread Thomas Morin
IESG, The L3VPN WG requests that draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04 be published as an RFC on the Standard track. The shepherd write-up is in the datatacker [1]. Thank you, -Thomas for the L3VPN/BESS WG [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system/shepherdwriteup/ ___

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll - draft-fang-l3vpn-virtual-pe-05

2014-10-22 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, Let me chime a different bell... (Please note well that this feedback is sent without my co-chair hat. I won't participate as a chair in the adoption decision on this draft.) Let me quote the document: "A virtual PE (vPE) is a BGP/MPLS L3/L2 VPN PE software instance which m

[bess] Extended to Nov 4th: New Poll for adoption on draft-bonica-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes related to late IPR disclosure

2014-10-27 Thread Thomas Morin
, -Thomas and Martin Tue Oct 07 2014 15:54:01 GMT+0200 (CEST), Thomas Morin: Hello working group, At the end of July, IPR has been disclosed on both draft-bonica-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes and draft-ietf-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes, related to a patent by one of the co-authors, Lucy Yong ; we consider

Re: [bess] Late IPR disclosure on RFC7024 - Opinions ?

2014-10-27 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Robert, everyone, It is fully up to each individual to make sure that he/she complies with IETF IPR rules. As we do in l3vpn/bess, some chairs take the additional steps of making sure authors did not forget to comply with these rules, through a reminder question. Let's be clear that even

Re: [bess] Late IPR disclosure on RFC7024 - Opinions ?

2014-10-27 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Benson, all, 2014-10-23, Benson Schliesser: Are you also aware of any options for a punitive response? You can read RFC6701. I'm not sure whether this would be against the inventors, company that owns the IPR, employees of that company that should have known about the IPR, etc. Well, R

Re: [bess] Late IPR disclosure on RFC7024 - Opinions ?

2014-10-27 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Robert, 2014-10-23, Robert Raszuk: [...] this is even patent outside of US. The fact that the patent subject of this IPR was made outside the US does not change how IETF IPR rules apply. -Thomas ___ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org https://www.

[bess] Draft agenda for our IETF 91 Meeting

2014-10-28 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, You can find our *draft* agenda at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-bess Note well that this agenda is subject to change. Do no hesitate to send us your feedback and comments. Best, -Thomas & Martin ___ BESS maili

Re: [bess] Draft agenda for our IETF 91 Meeting

2014-10-28 Thread Thomas Morin
L2VPN session at our disposal, can we have another BESS session in that slot if we have enough materials to warrant another session? Cheers, Ali On 10/28/14, 8:21 AM, "Thomas Morin" wrote: Hi everyone, You can find our *draft* agenda at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda

[bess] Fwd: draft-...-orf-covering-prefixes re-adopted (was Re: New Poll for adoption on draft-bonica-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes related to late IPR disclosure)

2014-11-05 Thread Thomas Morin
as draft-bess-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes-00 ? Thank you, -Thomas 2014-10-07, Thomas Morin: Hello working group, At the end of July, IPR has been disclosed on both draft-bonica-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes and draft-ietf-l3vpn-orf-covering-prefixes, related to a patent by one of the co

Re: [bess] WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft

2014-11-07 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi, Can authors please re-submit the document as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-00 (as soon as the ID upload tool reopens) ? Thanks, -Thomas 2014-11-07, Giles Heron: This draft has been adopted, however as L2VPN has closed it will be progressed in BESS. Giles On 3 Oct 2014, at 13:42, Gile

[bess] multicast BIER and mVPN

2014-11-10 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi all, For your information, in case you missed it, the BIER BoF this afternoon will cover multicast VPN P-tunnels as a possible application of BIER. http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/#BIERApprovedforIETF91 Best, -Thomas ___ BESS mailing list B

[bess] BESS meeting for a second meeting on Friday!

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, Some seems to have missed the information, which does not appear in the printed agendas... We want to remind you that BESS is having two sessions this week. The second session is on Friday, at 11:50 in Kahili. Agenda at: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/bess/agenda?item=agenda-91-bess.ht

Re: [bess] FW: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi, Can authors please repost as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding ? Thanks, -Thomas 2014-11-12, Bitar, Nabil N: FYI. Thanks, Nabil From: Bitar, Nabil N Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:09 PM To: Bitar, Nabil N; l2...@ietf.org Subject:

Re: [bess] [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02

2014-11-12 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi, Can authors please republish as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-usage ? Thanks, -Thomas 2014-11-12, Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge): Yes, we published rev 03 to address the only objection shared on the list during the adoption call. Thank you. Jorge -Original Message- From: splug Date: Wednesday, N

[bess] Request for publication of draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Morin
IESG, The L3VPN WG requests that draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-08 be published as an RFC on the Standard track. The shepherd write-up is in the datatacker [1]. Thank you, -Thomas for the BESS WG [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community/shepherdwriteu

[bess] Flowspec for L2VPN and E-VPN

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi WG, A heads up... These two drafts relate to BESS and thus may be of interest to us: - draft-hao-idr-flowspec-l2vpn (on idr agenda, being presented right now) - draft-hao-idr-flowspec-evpn

[bess] Last minute / agenda update for our session on Friday (service chaining)

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, We've updated our agenda for tomorrow's session to accommodate for a discussion on service-chaining: Friday, 1150-1320 - Kahili * draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment, Ali, 10' including questions * draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-etree, Ali, 10' including question

Re: [bess] Two minor last call comments on draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-08.txt

2014-11-25 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Adrian, Adrian Farrel : - Check whether you really need the pre-RFC5378 boilerplate and remove it if possible This was handled with authors during shepherd review: all agreed to grant appropriate rights, and removal of the boilerplate should be done in the next respin. Best, -Thomas

[bess] Draft minutes for our IETF91 sessions

2014-11-27 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, Draft minutes for our 2 sessions during last IETF are at: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/bess/minutes These minutes where compiled based on the impressively extensive minutes taken by John Scudder, complemented by the minutes taken by Lucy Yong and some notes by chairs. Thanks John an

[bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-global-table-mcast

2014-11-28 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-global-table-mcast [1], which is considered mature and ready for a last working group review. Please read the document if you haven't read the most recent version yet, and send your comments to the list, no

Re: [bess] Last Call Comment draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.txt

2014-12-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Benson, 2014-12-03 19:38, Benson Schliesser: Simple: I agree that it should be relatively straight-forward to fix the namespace issue. While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I think that RFC 3688 describes how the appropriate namespace can be assigned. I'm comfortable describing this as

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir

2014-12-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until **December 19th**. *Coincid

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay

2014-12-05 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until **December 19th*

Re: [bess] [IANA #798045] RE: IANA's comments on draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system

2014-12-09 Thread Thomas Morin
t; > > IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions: > > > > IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this document. > > > > Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this draft. The > > original requ

Re: [bess] [IANA #798045] IANA's comments on draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system

2014-12-10 Thread Thomas Morin
ment has been made to support this draft. The original request for an assignment is below: Contact Name: Thomas Morin Contact Email: thomas.mo...@orange.com Type of Assignment: Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry. Registry: BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types See: h

Re: [bess] Last Call Comment draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.txt / XML schema registration

2014-12-11 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi IANA, We need to find the right way to choose the URI for the XML schema in this draft, and understand based on RFC3688 that the registry at [1] is the right place. We need to identify whether a URL (like the one currently in the draft: http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd) is suitab

Re: [bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-global-table-mcast

2014-12-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, This last call is now ended. We'll move the doc to the IESG as soon as the shepherd review is done. Thanks, -Thomas 2014-11-28, Thomas Morin : Hello working group, This email starts a Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-global-table-mcast [1], which is consi

[bess] Adoption of draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04

2014-12-19 Thread Thomas Morin
[initially sent to l2vpn instead of bess] Hi everyone, Before formally adopting this in BESS, we need an answer from each co-author on this recurrent reminder question about existing knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF

Re: [bess] Adoption of draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04 / adopted

2015-01-07 Thread Thomas Morin
this draft beyond what has already been disclosed. Thanks, Samer On 2014-12-19 1:05 AM, "Thomas Morin" wrote: [initially sent to l2vpn instead of bess] Hi everyone, Before formally adopting this in BESS, we need an answer from each co-author on this recurrent reminder question abou

[bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication

2015-01-12 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication, which is considered mature and ready for a working group review. Please read the document if you haven't read the most recent version yet, and send your comments to the list,

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir => adopted !

2015-01-13 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, We have a new working group document. Can authors please repost as draft-ietf-bess-ir-00 ? Best, -Thomas 2014-12-04 17:29, Thomas Morin : Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir [1] as a working group item. Please send comments

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay / adopted !

2015-01-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, We have a new working group document. Can authors please re-post as draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay ? Best, -Thomas 2014-12-05 14:13, Thomas Morin: Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-morin-bess-multicast-damping

2015-01-26 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this draft, and support adoption as a co-author. Best, -Thomas 2015-01-26, Martin Vigoureux: Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-morin-bess-multicast-damping [1] as a working group item.

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-etree

2015-02-02 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-etree-00 [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until **February 16th**.

Re: [bess] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-09: (with COMMENT)

2015-02-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Stephen, all, Stephen Farrell: - section 6: I think I buy the argument that there are no new security issues here but that's only true I think if the security issues with route reflectors are somewhere (and if those cover cases where crypto is not used to enforce the "P" in VPN). Wouldn't a r

Re: [bess] Alia Atlas' Yes on draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-09: (with COMMENT)

2015-02-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Alia, Alia Atlas: In Sec 2,2, it says: "This implies that when propagating routes into a VRF, the ACCEPT_OWN community should not be propagated. Likewise, if a route carrying the ACCEPT_OWN community is received in an address family which does not allow the source VRF to be looke

Re: [bess] Pete Resnick's No Objection on draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-09: (with COMMENT)

2015-02-05 Thread Thomas Morin
Adrian, Pete, 2015-02-05, Adrian Farrel: I looked through the archive. The comments from the contributor were responded to with a polite email explaining how the authors disagreed and why. The contributor (whose original comments were more like "I would do it different") did not follow up, an

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-etree

2015-03-05 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This poll is now closed. We consider that strong-enough support to adopt the document has not been expressed at this time. Thank you, -Thomas/Martin 2015-02-02, Thomas Morin : Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-sajassi-bess-evpn

[bess] Draft agenda for Dallas

2015-03-09 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, Here is the draft agenda for our meeting in Dallas, scheduled Wednesday, March 25, 9:00-11:30. Note well that this agenda is still subject to change. Feel free to comment... Best, -Thomas/Martin http://www.ietf.org/pr

[bess] Agenda for Dallas

2015-03-17 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, Here is our final agenda for our meeting next week in Dallas (Wednesday, March 25, 9:00-11:30). Note well that all slots include the time for discussing the drafts. Monday 8pm (Dallas local time) is the _deadline_ for presenters to send us their slides, keeping in mind that send

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-10-22 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc-03 [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until **November

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

2015-11-12 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi John, 2015-11-12, John E Drake: Why do you think it should be documented in Eric's draft rather than in the EVPN Overlay draft? The issue applies beyond the context of E-VPN overlay specs, and exist in any context where different kinds of MPLS(/x) encaps can be mixed (E-VPN non-overlay,

Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-11-13 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Wim, I agree on the analysis that this proposal is restricted to implementations that supports the chosen encap with non-IANA ports (which may be hard to achieve for instance on hardware implementations, as you suggest), or to context where managing multiple IPs would be operationally viab

[bess] IDR accepting post-WGLC comments on draft-ietf-idr-rtc-no-rt

2015-11-13 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, draft-ietf-idr-rtc-no-rt has passed working group last call in IDR on June 22th and the shepherd noticed that considering that specs being worked on in BESS are the primary use case, comments from BESS working group could have been solicited. Hence, IDR chairs have proposed

Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-11-16 Thread Thomas Morin
how to implement the procedures in draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc based on current vswitch implementations of VXLAN, the lack of MPLS/MPLS/(UDP, GRE) support in commonplace vswitches seems to me as making that alternate solution you suggest harder to implement. -Thomas

Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-11-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Lucy Yong : [Lucy1] Is this one? “If we want to describe a model C VPN interconnect with a IP fabric in a DC I recommend to do an informational RFC that describes this using VXLAN-GPE, MPLSoGRE or MPLSoUDP encapsulation and retain the E2E MPLS label we defined in RFC4364.” If yes, you sugge

Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-11-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Wim, Henderickx, Wim (Wim) : VXLAN has a dedicated UDP port and is very clear in the RFC7348 Well, having a port reserved for this use that won't be the default for another protocol is one thing, but that does not prevent in itself the same protocol to be applied on another range of ports. (

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-singh-bess-bgp-vpls-control-flags -> adopted

2015-11-18 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, We have a new working group document. Authors, can you please repost as draft-ietf-bess-bgp-vpls-control-flags ? Thank you, -Thomas/Martin 2015-10-26, Ravi Singh: Hi Thomas, Martin Before adopting this draft, we would like hear people actually experiencing pain related to

Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-11-19 Thread Thomas Morin
dures in draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc based on current vswitch implementations of VXLAN, the lack of MPLS/MPLS/(UDP, GRE) support in commonplace vswitches seems to me as making that alternate solution you suggest harder to implement. WH> I would disagree to this. Tell me which switch/TOR

[bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-24 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello everyone, Following the positive feedback received during BESS meeting in Yokohama about introducing a one-implementation requirement in BESS, we propose to do the following for future WG last calls: As a prerequisite before doing a working group last call on a document, the chairs wil

Re: [bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-26 Thread Thomas Morin
f seriousness of the part of the implementor. Asking for greater commitment at WGLC is (imho) asking too much. Kireeti On Nov 24, 2015, at 01:03, Thomas Morin wrote: Hello everyone, Following the positive feedback received during BESS meeting in Yokohama about introducing a one-implementati

[bess] Closing the call for adoption on draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

2015-12-07 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, Based on this long discussion following the call for adoption, we consider that there is no consensus at this point to adopt draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc as a working group document. Our understanding is that the problem to address and the different alternatives so

Re: [bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-bess-pta-flags-01

2016-01-05 Thread Thomas Morin
Martin, Martin Vigoureux : *Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-bess-multicast-damping, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If* you are listed as a

[bess] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-01-19 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello Working Group, This email starts a Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree [1] which is considered mature and ready for a final working group review. Please read the document if you haven't read the most recent version yet (-03), and send your comments to the list, no lat

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-02

2016-01-26 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-02 [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until **February 9

Re: [bess] AD Review of draft-ietf-bess-multicast-damping-03

2016-02-24 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Alvaro, Thanks for your very careful review. I may not agree with every comment made, but many will certainly improve the document. See inlined below... Thanks, -Thomas 2016-02-23, Alvaro Retana (aretana): The Abstract says that the procedures are "inspired from BGP unicast route dampi

[bess] draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-optimized-ir is adopted (was Re: Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-02)

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, This draft is now a WG document. Authors, can you please repost as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir ? Thanks, -Thomas 2016-01-26, Thomas Morin: Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-02 [1] as a working group

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-fm-bess-service-chaining-02

2016-03-10 Thread Thomas Morin
FYI, the disclosure has been made March 8th: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2765/ -Thomas Le 07/03/2016 13:35, Martin Vigoureux a écrit : Hello Dhananjaya, thanks for the notice. WG, I'll let this poll run for at least a week after the disclosure is made. For those who have already stated t

[bess] IETF 95 meeting, *draft* agenda

2016-03-22 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone We've just posted the **draft** agenda (still subject to changes) for our meeting in Buenos Aires: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-bess We were not able to accomodate for all requests for time, thank you for your understanding. Best, -Thomas/Martin WG St

Re: [bess] Ref: Call for adoption: draft-snr-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-02

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, This draft is now a BESS working group document. Can authors please resubmit as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-00 ? Thanks in advance, -Thomas 2016-02-15, Iftekhar Hussain: Support. I have read the draft and found it to provide very useful operational information. Thanks

Re: [bess] Ref: Call for adoption: draft-snr-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-02

2016-03-31 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Erik, Yes indeed, Monday morning Buenos Aires time. "The I-D submission tool will be reopened after 2016-04-03 23:59 ART (IETF-meeting local time). " [1] Best, -Thomas [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/ 2016-03-31, Erik Nordmark: On 3/30/16 1:52 PM, Thomas Morin

Re: [bess] IETF 95 meeting, *draft* agenda

2016-03-31 Thread Thomas Morin
The agenda posted below is the final agenda. Thank you, See you the next in Buenos Aires! -Thomas 2016-03-22, Thomas Morin: Hi everyone We've just posted the **draft** agenda (still subject to changes) for our meeting in Buenos Aires: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agen

[bess] minutes of our IETF 95 meeting

2016-04-07 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, We have just posted draft minutes for today's meeting. You can read them at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/minutes/minutes-95-bess Please send any comments you may have on these minutes. Many many thanks to Gunter for his minute taking! -Thomas/Martin

Re: [bess] minutes of our IETF 95 meeting

2016-04-13 Thread Thomas Morin
dd my response to comments from Keyur and Wim: 4PE routers need IPv4 next hop information to install their IPv4 routing table. Thanks and Best Regards, li_zhenqi...@hotmail.com *From:* Thomas Morin <mailto:thomas.mo...@or

[bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

2016-05-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi, There are minor things that could be improved in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay wrt. consistency with draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps : * since draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps will deprecate RFC5512, it would be better that draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay refers to draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps and

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

2016-05-04 Thread Thomas Morin
or VSID from a Label in a PMSI Tunnel Attribute and have draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay follow that. I understand that the existence of implementation makes this hard to change. ] -Thomas 2016-05-04, Thomas Morin: Hi, There are minor things that could be improved in draft-ietf-bess-evpn

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-brissette-bess-evpn-yang

2016-05-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-brissette-bess-evpn-yang [1] as a working group document. Please state on the list if you support adoption or not (in both cases, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until *May 25th*. This call runs in parall

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang

2016-05-04 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang [1] as a working group document. Please state on the list if you support adoption or not (in both cases, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until *May 25th*. This call runs in parallel w

Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status & shepherd) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-03

2016-05-09 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Jorge, all, Jorge: 11) IANA considerations: the authors have agreed to request the value ‘4’ for the Extended Community Sub-Type, since there are existing implementations using that value. Note that given the FCFS policy of this part of the registry [1], you could ask for this value now

[bess] Fwd: [IANA #907843] General Request for Assignment (bgp-extended-communities - draft-ietf-bess-service-chaining)

2016-05-12 Thread Thomas Morin
of the registry and the registrations' values and descriptions should be added to the document's IANA Considerations section. Best regards, Amanda Baber IANA Senior Specialist ICANN On Mon May 09 13:56:11 2016, thomas.mo...@orange.com wrote: > > Contact Name: > Thomas Morin

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

2016-05-18 Thread Thomas Morin
John, 2016-05-18, John E Drake: I spoke with Ali and he will reference the tunnel encapsulation draft rather than RFC 5512 but make it Informative. I think this is in the spirit of what you proposed in your email, below. Well, only for some definition of "in the spirit"... :-/ What I think w

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

2016-05-19 Thread Thomas Morin
eals > quite nicely with this situation. Of course we can deal with less-than-ideal... it doesn't mean we can't anticipate and do better. -Thomas *From:*Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:23 AM *To:* John E Drake; IDR; BESS;

[bess] draft-brissette-bess-evpn-yang is adopted (was Re: Poll for adoption: draft-brissette-bess-evpn-yang)

2016-05-25 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, We have consensus for this draft to become a BESS WG document. Authors can you please repost as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang-00 with the agreed changes ? Best, -Thomas Thomas Morin : Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-brissette-bess-evpn

[bess] draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang is adopted (was Re: Poll for adoption: draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang)

2016-06-03 Thread Thomas Morin
thors and list everyone else in a "Contributors" section. Best, -Thomas 2016-05-04, Thomas Morin: Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang [1] as a working group document. Please state on the list if you support adoption or not

Re: [bess] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-06-08 Thread Thomas Morin
f flag SHOULD be set to 0 but ignored by the receiving routers. Therefore, why not set it to 1 to be consistent the MAC/IP route case? Because the flag is used for known unicast traffic and Leaf label for BUM traffic. We don¹t want to mix the two. Cheers, Ali Thanks. Jeffrey -Original

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

2016-06-13 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Ali, The changes in -04 look good. I would have one suggestion: say explicitly that the "use the label as the VNI" behavior is the same as what the tunnel encap says. This could be done by adding something like the following to section 5.1.3 : Note that the procedure defined here to u

[bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay / section 5.1.3 vs. section 9 (was Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps)

2016-06-15 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi John, Ali, Through the discussion below it appeared that section 9 and section 5.1.3 needed adjustments to be brought in sync, and indeed there were some changes in last revision. However, I don't think the cleanup/precision is complete yet: - section 5.1.3 says "the MPLS label field in th

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay / section 5.1.3 vs. section 9 (was Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps)

2016-06-15 Thread Thomas Morin
Sounds good. Thanks, -Thomas 2016-06-15, John E Drake: Thomas, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:47 AM To: John E Drake; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US); BESS; draft

Re: [bess] Slots requests for BESS WG session - IETF 96 - Berlin

2016-06-20 Thread Thomas Morin
Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) : Please set me for Yang again. !0 min for L2VPN, EVPN and L3VPN. Well, implicitly we already assume slots requests are about non-zero time duration *. ;-) Typo joke aside, can you tell if you want 10 mins per draft, or if you plan to cover them all in one 10-m

[bess] Fwd: [IANA #915440] Early allocation request - draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir

2016-07-01 Thread Thomas Morin
--- Begin Message --- Hi all, IANA has made the following early allocations under the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) Parameters heading at http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters: 1) In the P-Multicast Service Interface Tunnel (PMSI Tunnel) Tunnel Types registry, IANA has registered the

Re: [bess] still no slides for bess Berlin

2016-07-18 Thread Thomas Morin
Speakers, We are still missing 3 of the slide decks: draft-anshuverma-bess-vpls-best-site-id-02 10min, Anshu draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-00 20min, Jeffrey draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-00 10min, Ali Please post your slides tomorrow... Best, -Thomas 17/07/2016 à

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-boutros-bess-vxlan-evpn-01

2016-08-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, As announced during Berlin meeting, considering the small support base, this document is not adopted. We will consider doing a call for adoption again when/if we hear more about the actual needs for such a solution. Thomas/Martin 2016-06-20, Thomas Morin: Hello working

[bess] Call for adoption: draft-dhjain-bess-bgp-l3vpn-yang-01

2016-08-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-dhjain-bess-bgp-l3vpn-yang [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until **August 30th**

Re: [bess] draft minutes from our session at IETF 96

2016-08-16 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Greg, I've just uploaded updated minutes to address your comment. Best, -Thomas, as WG co-chair 2016-07-26, Greg Mirsky: Hi Thomas, et. al, my note is regarding the presentation and the discussion of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover. Minutes state "some discussion on BFD boostraping an

[bess] shepherd review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-08-29 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi, Here is the review I did while preparing the shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree . There is one thing that stands out: the document uses the most significant bit of the "PMSI Tunnel Attribute" Tunnel Type field, which cant't be done I think without updating the structure of

Re: [bess] shepherd review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-08-29 Thread Thomas Morin
My previous email was missing comments on the References section... 9 References 9.1 Normative References [KEYWORDS] Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119, March 1997. [RFC7432] Sajassi et al., "BGP MPLS Based Etherne

Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status & shepherd) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay

2016-08-29 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, authors, A quick update on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay, as mentioned during BESS meeting in Berlin: - the door for comments is still open to have more reviews on this important document - reminder to authors: the outcome of the discussion right before/during WGLC haven't yet

[bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-ac-df

2016-08-30 Thread Thomas Morin
Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-ac-df-05 [1] as a Working Group document. Please state on the list if you support adoption or not (in both cases, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until *September 14th*. We are also poll

Re: [bess] shepherd review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-09-02 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Ali, Thanks for the quick respin, which covers many of the points. (inlined below, skipping the resolved points) 2016-09-02, Ali Sajassi (sajassi): sites albeit for different EVIs. +-++-+ | PE1 || PE

[bess] Adopted: draft-dhjain-bess-bgp-l3vpn-yang-02 ! (was Re: Call for adoption: draft-dhjain-bess-bgp-l3vpn-yang-01)

2016-09-06 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, draft-dhjain-bess-bgp-l3vpn-yang is adopted as a working group document. Can authors please repost as **draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang-00** ? Thanks, -Thomas 2016-08-16, Thomas Morin: Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-dhjain-bess-bgp

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-ac-df

2016-10-11 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, We have a new WG document. Authors, can you please repost as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df-00 ? Thanks in advance, -Thomas/Martin 2016-08-30, Thomas Morin: Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-ac-df-05 [1] as a Working Group

[bess] IMPORTANT: please resend your slots requests for BESS WG session - IETF 97 - Seoul !

2016-11-02 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi everyone, You need to resend your request for a slot (unless the WG or Thomas were Cc'd in your initial email). The reason behind this is that Martin's PC suffered from a crash today. With our apologies for the inconvenience and for being late to post an agenda... Thomas/Martin Martin

[bess] Comments on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-05.txt

2016-11-10 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi authors of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay, Here are a two comments on the changes in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-05: 5.1.3 Constructing EVPN BGP Routes In EVPN, an MPLS label identifying forwarding table is distributed by "identifying forwarding table" was inserted above in -05 Is the

Re: [bess] Comments on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-05.txt

2016-11-14 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Ali, 2016-11-11, Ali Sajassi (sajassi): Here are a two comments on the changes in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-05: 5.1.3 Constructing EVPN BGP Routes In EVPN, an MPLS label identifying forwarding table is distributed by "identifying forwarding table" was inserted above in -05 Is the

Re: [bess] Comments on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-05.txt

2016-11-24 Thread Thomas Morin
. Thanks, -Thomas On 11/14/16, 6:20 AM, "Thomas Morin" wrote: Hi Ali, 2016-11-11, Ali Sajassi (sajassi): Here are a two comments on the changes in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-05: 5.1.3 Constructing EVPN BGP Routes In EVPN, an MPLS label identifying forwarding table is dist

[bess] WGLC on one addition in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-07

2016-12-01 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi working group, draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-07 has just been published with a new section on "Unknown Unicast Traffic Designation". This email starts a one week Last Call, for comments specific to this new section, to close on December 8th. Thanks, -Thomas internet-dra...@ietf.org :

Re: [bess] shepherd review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-12-12 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Ali, 2016-12-10, Ali Sajassi (sajassi): Your suggestion regarding multiple MAC-VRFs per EVI for E-TREE, impacts lot more sections than just section 2.2 for which you suggested some texts. It drastically impacts section 3.1 (known unicast traffic), and it also impacts section 3.2 (BUM traff

Re: [bess] shepherd review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

2016-12-15 Thread Thomas Morin
Hi Ali, 2016-12-13, Ali Sajassi (sajassi): 2016-12-10, Ali Sajassi (sajassi): Your suggestion regarding multiple MAC-VRFs per EVI for E-TREE, impacts lot more sections than just section 2.2 for which you suggested some texts. It drastically impacts section 3.1 (known unicast traffic), and i

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