Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
1) The install should have a check box to start up the control panel. It should not start up before the finish screen is exited (normal Windows behavior). Will check this. 2) Squeezebox Server should not start up before it is configured. What would you want to configure before it starts?

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4/trunk SVN 27166 a bit sick

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
I'm guessing it's to do with the change of software name, and the change in location of cachedir, which means that it's not finding things properly any more. I think it's tried to migrate cachedir somewhere else, but I don't use the default location - I have set a different location

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4/trunk SVN 27166 a bit sick

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Meyer
As you guessed correctly this might be the issue: there is migration code which will reset this value if it's considered the default value. This obviously isn't detected correctly. Would it work again if you manually set this value again? After updating to HEAD and restarting, I checked the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4/trunk SVN 27166 a bit sick

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
After updating to HEAD and restarting, I checked the cachedir prefs item. It hadn't been changed - it was still pointing to the correct Make sure you're looking at the right server.prefs file. It might have moved too... So it seems as if it just doesn't read the cachedir prefs item

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread autopilot
mherger;433350 Wrote: Having big problems installing the latest nightly. Just hangs trying to 'uninstall Squeezecenter'. How long did you leave it running before you killed it? Over a hour the first time, much longer the second, as i was watching a DVD. Tried to uninstall squeezecenter

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
Scanner is failing though now, something about flac.dll missing. Oh, that's an important one... do you have the exact message? Does the following bug sound familiar? http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 -- Michael ___ beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread autopilot
mherger;433373 Wrote: Scanner is failing though now, something about flac.dll missing. Oh, that's an important one... do you have the exact message? Does the following bug sound familiar? http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 -- Michael Yes, that's the one.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
Yes, that's the one. Log is also full of MP3 errors too. Scanner looping. Please update/file the bugs. Thanks! -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 v27149 also will not run in Windows XP

2009-06-19 Thread Siduhe
Just to confirm (in case anyone else runs into a similar problem) - this was resolved by a completely fresh install of SC, including deleting all of my old directories in which SC has been installed at various times and all of the cache and prefs folder (and a registry cleanup). The ref to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Merging Plugins and Extension Downloader tabs ?

2009-06-19 Thread erland
Triode;426802 Wrote: I think this is really down to logitech policy - it would be trivial to have a recommend 3rd party plugin list and a all 3rd party plugins list which includes all repos linked from the wiki. However automatically pulling in data from the wiki is dangerous as it can be

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread funkstar
Philip Meyer;433233 Wrote: I think that the 90% of customers who couldn't care less about databases don't need to change to SQLite; they are happy with what they had. The only caveat is the people who did have trouble with AV products (don't know how extensive that was). I think NAS

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread bonze
Still having problems installing from the Extension Downloader (7.4.27166) Selected Alien to install which downloaded the .zip file to the correct location. Then restarted the Squeezebox Server, which failed. Again, nothing in the server.log except a startup message. Found the following in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread Siduhe
bonze;433421 Wrote: Still having problems installing from the Extension Downloader (7.4.27166) Selected Alien to install which downloaded the .zip file to the correct location. Then restarted the Squeezebox Server, which failed. Again, nothing in the server.log except a startup message.

[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread autopilot
Don't know enough about the inner workings of the scanner to know whats going on, but todays latest, and yesterdays, build dont have a working scanner. Just keeps restarting and my library is empty. I have cleared out the cache but this does not help. Problem is, that the server log file is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread bonze
Siduhe;433424 Wrote: I've seen the same error message with my install last night. Managed to get it going again by a complete fresh install with no plugins.I can get it running OK if I empty the Cache/DownloadedPlugins folder or delete state.prefs. But everytime I try to install plugins

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread Tim-Ann
Hi there, I've had the same problems on my Tranquil Squash WHS server the scanning just doesn't seem to be working at all. Also had problems tying to restart the SC so have given up and gone back to 7.3.3. Tim. -- Tim-Ann

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
I've had the same problems on my Tranquil Squash WHS server the And no scanner.log is being created? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread Tim-Ann
Hi there, I'm afraid I'm only a learner here and did not think to get a log nor would I have known how to will read up how to and on the next try will post the log. Sorry, Tim. -- Tim-Ann Tim-Ann's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread bonze
I just kicked off a new scan (clear and rescan) to see what happens. The scanner.exe is running OK but the following appears in the server.log [09-06-19 13:08:46.1994] Slim::Utils::Strings::string (379) Error: missing string 1 [09-06-19 13:08:46.2008] Slim::Utils::Strings::string (379)

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Herger
[09-06-19 13:08:46.1994] Slim::Utils::Strings::string (379) Error: missing string 1 That's http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12211 - harmless. What about scanner.log? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread dwilliams01
mherger;433352 Wrote: 1) The install should have a check box to start up the control panel. It should not start up before the finish screen is exited (normal Windows behavior). Will check this. 2) Squeezebox Server should not start up before it is configured. What would you

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread Philip Meyer
funkstar;433408 Wrote: I disagree. I look at it as the 90% of customers that don't need to know what DB SS is using are better using SQLite as it will mean less support issues as less is likely to ge wrong. I know what you mean, and partially agree, mainly for new users. To change existing

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread funkstar
Philip Meyer;433487 Wrote: I think the only problem with MySQL were the occasional reported issue about problems openning files due to affects of other processes running on that users computer (eg. AV and firewall products). That can happen to any app, caused by any program. i.e. who's to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 r27166 Scanner failing and just looping.

2009-06-19 Thread bonze
mherger;433484 Wrote: [09-06-19 13:08:46.1994] Slim::Utils::Strings::string (379) Error: missing string 1 That's http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12211 - harmless. What about scanner.log? -- MichaelNo errors in the scanner.log. Completed normally. -- bonze

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread tamanaco
Philip Meyer;433487 Wrote: To change existing users from one to the other means they are losing their current data, and starting afresh. That means potentially losing things in their current setup (eg. statistics, ratings, other things that 3rd party plugins provide). Existing users that

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No 7.3.4 firmware

2009-06-19 Thread Matt Wise
A link has been created to point it to the 7.3.3 directory... -- Matt Wise Matt Wise's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64653

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread gharris999
tamanaco;433511 Wrote: I couldn't agree more... this is the reason I said that I felt like road-kill. I spent a considerable amount of time tagging my music and making sure that those tags were displayed and functioned correctly using the MySQL platform. I also grew dependent on erland's

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread tamanaco
gharris999;433526 Wrote: You'll always have the option of sticking with 7.3.3. Nobody will be forced to upgrade...unless you consider being enticed by new features that rely on SQLite to be coercion. Don't get me wrong. I'm pro-MySQL. Inevitably, I'll have a working version of 7.4 with

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4/trunk SVN 27166 a bit sick

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Meyer
Make sure you're looking at the right server.prefs file. It might have moved too... So it seems as if it just doesn't read the cachedir prefs item anymore? That code did not change. Hmmm, I'll try again and investigate further. ___ beta mailing

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread radish
tamanaco;433538 Wrote: I understand what you're are saying about not being forced... but sticking to an old version that will eventually be deprecated is not an option for me. As I said in my previous post, what I hope will happen is that a migration path will be available where users of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread tamanaco
radish;433605 Wrote: Why are you expecting any pain? I run both 7.3.3 (mysql) and 7.4 (sqlite) pointing at the same library and honestly can't tell the difference. Other than plugins which rely specifically on mysql (which I realise could be a big deal for some people until they're fixed)

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Meyer
I spent a considerable amount of time tagging my music and making sure that those tags were displayed and functioned correctly using the MySQL platform. There's no reason to believe that you will need to change your tags. The database engine, although different, should store the same content.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 v27149 also will not run in Windows XP

2009-06-19 Thread bonze
Which values did you tidy up in the registry? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.4 - 27166 3 x wireless SB3 + a Duet bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread Letten
tamanaco;433538 Wrote: I understand what you're are saying about not being forced... but sticking to an old version that will eventually be deprecated is not an option for me. As I said in my previous post, what I hope will happen is that a migration path will be available where users of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4/trunk SVN 27166 a bit sick

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Meyer
Make sure you're looking at the right server.prefs file. It might have moved too... Okay, that appears to be the problem. It had created a new folder C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox, and within it created a new prefs folder. The prefs were not migrated from

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer changes in tomorrow's build

2009-06-19 Thread bonze
I've noticed Control Panel Information includes the following in the Plugin Folders: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins has this changed or is something screwed with my setup? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Meyer
Solving major installation issues for 99% of the customers and at the same time cater for unhappy (underpowered) NAS users really is a nobrainer. I really don't think the AV issue was a major installation issue for 99% of customers. I haven't seen too many forum posts. One or two occasionally

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4/trunk SVN 27166 a bit sick

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Meyer
I had to delete the rogue MySQL process that the Squeezebox had started and not stopped when Squeezebox failed to run up properly, such that I could delete the Cache folder. I then deleted the dodgy folder migration, copied the old SqueezeCenter folder content into Squeezebox folder, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Advantages of the new database.

2009-06-19 Thread radish
tamanaco;433625 Wrote: The pain of having to re-rate the tracks that I have rated and having to re-create new browsing shortcuts that I have already created with MySQL-dependent plugins. Right, so ratings data (which I thought could be exported and reinserted - no?) and MySQL-dependent

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SC 7.4 for WHS Thread

2009-06-19 Thread brucesee
Michael: I've now installed your SC for WHS beta. Many thanks for developing it. Is it possible to install your album review plug in into the WHS add-in? -- brucesee brucesee's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SC 7.4 for WHS Thread

2009-06-19 Thread deriksen
Brucesee: I use Subsonic, an open-source stream server, for my remote streaming purposes. Extremely light weight and highly reliable. No add-in as of yet, so regular install is required by way of RDP. It runs beautifully on my 485. :) Transcoding is done and you can set bitrate limits pr user.