I have posted a bug that achieves the same ends, but in a different
way.
I am proposing for the SB to cause the PC to do some busy-work while
playing, which would keep the PC awake. Once the SB stops playing, the
PC would have nothing to do and go to sleep after the set period.
This would work w
I entered a bug to request a power button option in the SB2 & SB3 to
actually turn the device off (and allow the server to sleep). IMO, WOL
functionality for customers that host Slimserver on a windows platform
is useless without this option. Please vote for this bug!
http://bugs.slimdevices.c
Just reading some stuff on this post. Wake On Lan WILL work over
wireless and it is very simple. The MAC address of the target device to
Wake on the network is broadcast 16 times either on a broadcast address
or an IP directed broadcast.
There are two things required for WOL. The MAC address of t
It's too technical for me but you seem to know very well what you're
talking about. So I quess I am wrong about the wake-on-link. (I only
learned that name in this discussion...)
In my Bios I have only the following setting:
- Wake on PME enabled/disabled. I have it enabled. Google learned me
tha
reinoud Wrote:
> Wake-on-link means 'network activity directed to the computer's ip
> address' and not 'network cable connected'.
>
I do not believe this is correct. Wake on Link is trigger by the
low-level ethernet hardware heartbeat pulse. This is well below the IP
level - in fact, its contr
No worries but it seems that communication is very difficult. Probably
has to due with the fact that english isn't my mother tongue.
I selected Wake-on-link in the Bios. Server 2003 gives two power
options for the network adapter. 1-allow this device to wake the
computer. 2-only allow administra
Apologies,
I haven't been able to post recently.
Dean is correct. Windows is sending the PC back to standby when it
should stay awake due to network activity, so this is a Windows
bug/limitation.
Your issue is different. You seem to be either using wake on link or
some other W2k03 feature which
Dean,
You wrote:
"Well, the real problem is a limitation in windows"
I don't agree. The WOL is designed for administrator purposes. The
"Wake on network activity" is designed for normal network traffic, like
the SB2.
And:
"Wake on network activity is probably a little bit overkill, given all
the
On Sep 3, 2005, at 6:23 AM, bgriffis wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm using the "unplug your player"
method. This works but feels silly to do something so low-tech on
such
a high-tech player! I tried holding LEFT for a few seconds and it
definitely disconnected. I watched the pl
Dean,
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm using the "unplug your player"
method. This works but feels silly to do something so low-tech on such
a high-tech player! I tried holding LEFT for a few seconds and it
definitely disconnected. I watched the player for a few minutes
afterward and it di
That would be perfect Dean. Just switching on and off using the power
button.
But please don't misunderstand me (or us). We are in love with the SB2
and are just trying to improve it.
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Well, this behavior has been in all of our products since 2001 and
hasn't really been an issue before, but I understand what you are
saying.
There are actually three ways to disconnect from your server:
1. Unplug your player.
2. Press and hold LEFT for a few seconds.
3. Connect to Squeeze
Reinoud,
Thanks for the reply. I ended up unplugging it so that I could get my
computer to sleep!
I can't imagine we're the only ones that are having (or will have) this
problem. I think in general people are becoming more power conscious
about their PCs and having an idle PC go to sleep seems
Looks like I am really not the only one
Brad:
Try turning off your SB2 instead of the slimserver. So don't use the
standby button on the remote but unplug the power cable.
I suggested a solution to Dean before but I am waiting for Oreilly's
testing results before I log it as an improvement.
Arg! Killing Slim Server is not enough -- I'll have to treck down to
the basement after all and try the "left arrow" method.
Brad
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Hi,
I just received my SB2 *today* and am really loving it so far. Well,
I'm about to go to bed and normally at night I put my computer in sleep
mode to save power. It won't stay asleep any more! As soon as I put it
to sleep it wakes right back up. Before getting my SB2 I had been doing
this
Hi,
Looks like you have the same problem as I have. My server goes to sleep
and immidiately wakes up again.
Has to do with the SB2 looking for the slimserver constantly even in
standby mode.
I am pretty sure that if you change to 'wake on link' mode with the SB2
powered off, the standby mode wi
reinoud,
Thanks for providing further details.
It sounds like you are using "Wake On Link" which means any activity
sent towards your machine while in standby will wake the it. When you
switch on a laptop and try to log on to the domain, you send network
traffic to your W2k03 server. I thought t
Thanks all for your replies. I will try to descibe my situation a bit
better.
- I have this server at home to share data, pictures and music.
- I want the server to go down on order to save on the electricity
bill and because of the noise the machine makes.
- To wake the server up takes only se
Regarding Reinoud's comments.
Why doesn't he just disable the Wake On Lan settings on his PC.
Then the SB wil behave as per firmware 15, the WOL packets will get
send out on the Network, but the PC will stay in standby.
Maybe I'm mis-understanding his post and therefore his problem.
"I have setu
BTW
I'm still following up on the issue of my PC going back to sleep with
Microsoft. I'll try to give another update later in the week. The
support engineer I've been dealing with provided me an existing hotfix,
but it didn't work.
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It would help if you could enter your details in an enhancement
request on http://bugs.slimdevices.com/
That way other folks can add their comments and vote for it.
Thanks,
dean
On Aug 30, 2005, at 2:34 PM, reinoud wrote:
I understand. But I am user who doesn't want the functionality you
I understand. But I am user who doesn't want the functionality you
mentioned.
Is it possible to add a setting to the slimserver that gives the user
an option to control this behaviour?
For example: 'SB2 disconnect in standby mode Yes/No'. If the standby
button is pressed, the SB2 could check t
On Aug 30, 2005, at 1:33 PM, reinoud wrote:
I knew that but that isn't a really user-friendly solution is it? Go
into setup so that my server can go to sleep.
No, press and hold LEFT to disconnect your player from the network.
Then press RIGHT to connect again. The fact that you can also se
Thanks for the reply.
I knew that but that isn't a really user-friendly solution is it? Go
into setup so that my server can go to sleep.
Why isn't it possible to have the SB2 to disconnect from the network
when the power button is pressed. I don't need the clock...
Thanks,
Reinoud
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On Aug 29, 2005, at 1:06 PM, reinoud wrote:
Isn't it possible to switch of the SB functionality to keep
communicating with the server and have to SB really go into standby
mode? I think that would be a much better solution for the problem.
With Squeezebox2 you can press and hold the RIGHT arrow
Hi all,
I am following this discussion for a while because I recently bought a
SB myself and I also have problems with standby / wakeup of my server.
To be honest, I don't really like the solution chosen here.
Reason: I am using my slimserver computer also as a home server and
when one of the
I was working on a similar approach, though not as elegant as
Orillymj's. This is what Ive come up with so far: (please forgive
the overly wordy and didactic post.)
If your system running SlimServer is more or less dedicated to that
task (i.e. you dont use it for real work) then try the fol
Hi,
I found this
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/power/base/setthreadexecutionstate.asp?frame=true
API function in XP to tell the system to stay awake. I've compiled an
exe which makes the API call, and I'm going to test it tonight using
the execute plugin.
Could be a work-around for win
If they did, I can guarantee that you'd be able to change it!
Max
oreillymj Wrote:
> I'm curious to know if Linux or OS-x behave the same.
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The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible
teeth
and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claw
Yep, sending more WOL packets would not do anything once the PC is
woken.
When the PC goes back to standby, the next WOL packet would wake it
again.
But I don't think I'd fancy having the SB constantly re-awakening the
PC. The strain on the HD especially is something I'd like to avoid.
It's also
Sounds horrific to me. Could you not just remove windows as a supported
platform and force everyone to run the server on decent operating
systems instead? :-)
That said, the original point of WOL was to enable waking up the server
to apply patches etc. I don't think it was intended to necessar
I'm wondering if Windows actualy pays attention to WoL after its been
woken, and during that 2 minute timeout period. Its very possible
there's a callback re-sleep timeout waiting for keyboard and mouse
activity.
Since Windows is most likely getting lots of network activity, I don't
suppose send
Vidur and I discussed this problem last night.
I'm considering sending WOL packets every 30 seconds to the connected
server while playing.
I'm also considering sending WOL packets for every Slim Devices
remote IR signal received when on the "Connecting to server..." screen.
Would this wor
oreillymj Wrote:
> I'm seeing an issue here, I've escalated to MS support.
>
> When my PC resumes from standby using the new WOL functionality, it
> will only stay on for a minute or 2 unless I touch the KB or mouse. I
> believe this is XP related, but it would be good to get some feedback
> fro
Arg. I'm not sure what we can do about this. Squeezebox2 _could_
send WOL packets every 30 seconds or so, but that would prevent the
machine from going back to sleep.
I wonder if there's a registry setting to adjust that 2-minute
timeout...
On Aug 12, 2005, at 2:41 AM, oreillymj wrote:
I'm seeing an issue here, I've escalated to MS support.
When my PC resumes from standby using the new WOL functionality, it
will only stay on for a minute or 2 unless I touch the KB or mouse. I
believe this is XP related, but it would be good to get some feedback
from the Linux/Mac users on the l
I am also interested in seeing Wake-on-Lan added to squeezebox firmware.
There is an open bug in the tracker as #331, but it has been out there
for quite a while.
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Is it possible for this feature to make it into the SB1 firmware? Or is
there some hardware limitation with SB1s that prevents this?
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WOL works like a charm. Both my wired and wireless SB2s wake my
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To be honest, I doubt I'll ever get wol lan running, unless I ever get
around to running a cable into my loft from the lounge (where my router
lives). My current alternative plan is to have my server wake itself up
at a particular time each weekday, and a different time each weekend.
It already
Max,
When your PC is powered off, there is no power sent to the wireless
NIC.
The PC must keep some power going to the NIC in standby mode for it to
receive the WOL magic packet and send a signal to the motherboard
telling the PC to wake up.
WOL will work wirelessly if the device sending the pa
Yep, that's not going to work. :)
Also, WOL doesn't work on Macs if they are running from battery power
or if they are connected via wireless.
On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:36 AM, max.spicer wrote:
Doesn't work for me, but that's not really a surprise and almost
certainly not your fault. I have
Doesn't work for me, but that's not really a surprise and almost
certainly not your fault. I have an ancient Dell Precision 210 as my
server, with an added Belkin wireless card. The BIOS is set to wake on
lan for the add-in NIC, but I haven't got any cables between my card and
the motherboard.
Really Cool,
This works for me.
I tested my Dell Dimension 8300 first to make sure it could be woken by
my laptop.
Update the firmware, put the PC to sleep, and the SB2 had no problem
waking the PC.
The firmware worked fine. I'm not sure if a small sleep period is
required after the magic pack
Fantastic. I'd be particularly interested to hear if anyone gets this
going with wireless. I'll give it a go on my setup tonight.
Max
dean Wrote:
> Tonight's nightly 6.2 build will include firmware 16, which adds Wake-
> on-LAN to the Squeezebox2.
>
> If your SlimServer computer is asleep a
ok, I'll give it a try.
If it works, I reckon a Wiki will be required to educate users on how
to configure/test their PC will respond to WOL packets.
I found DSL reports FAQ very helpful, but it still took me a couple of
hours of trial and error to get this working.
And that was with a modern P
On 3-Aug-05, at 10:29 PM, oreillymj wrote:
I see firmware 15 in the latest 6.2 nighlty directory.
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.2/
SlimServer_v2005-08-03/Firmware/
Do I need to wait until tommorrow for this directory to have the 16.bin
file or do the zips have it.
I see firmware 15 in the latest 6.2 nighlty directory.
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.2/SlimServer_v2005-08-03/Firmware/
Do I need to wait until tommorrow for this directory to have the 16.bin
file or do the zips have it.
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On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:01 PM, JJZolx wrote:
But still leaves me wondering: Can an SB/SB2 be
turned into a paperweight by a dodgy firmware upgrade, or is there
always some last-ditch means of recovering some old known-good
firmware?
Yes, it's possible for a firmware upgrade to cause the player to
kdf Wrote:
> svn 3855 looks ok. If you do get stuck after trying svn 3854, it
> should be still able to connect with a wired connection. You can use
> that to get back in and update. nightly build shouldn't have a
> problem.
>
> note to self: 6.2 is experimental. use with caution :)
Didn
kdf Wrote:
> experience is very bad. I'd suggest not trying it. I'm hard down with
>
> no way to connect to slimserver to even try to downgrade :(
> sorry for the bad news
What's this mean for those of us religously staying current with either
nightly builds or Subversion on the trunk? Will r
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