RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-16 Thread Bruce Nik
e courrier électronique par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser> immédiatement, par retour de courrier électronique ou par un autre moyen.> > > > > -Original Message-> From: Simon P. Ditner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: June 15, 2007 11:27 AM> To: biz@taug.ca&

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast
ginal Message - From: "Jim Van Meggelen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Toronto Asterisk Business Group'" Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? But Nortel systems don't have bugs . . .

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast
Cc: "Toronto Asterisk Business Group" Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? Problem is that large institutions do not just need a PBX system, but they need a unified messaging solution (which Asterisk is far away

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread David Cook
OTECTED] > > Sent: June 15, 2007 4:15 PM > > To: Alex @ Kovasys Inc. > > Cc: Jim Van Meggelen; Toronto Asterisk Business Group > > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an > > advertising campaign? > > > > Vendor support What??? have you ever

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast
June 15, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? Vendor support What??? have you ever tried to get a bug fixed on a Nortel system? its usually a 6 month to a 2 year process vs asterisk which thousands of people are working on.

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Derrick Moennick
] Sent: June 15, 2007 1:32 PM Cc: 'Toronto Asterisk Business Group' Subject: RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? What they want is a neck to choke if something goes wrong. > -Original Message- > From: Alex @ Kovasys Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Jim Van Meggelen
/CIO would touch > > > it, until one day they found out that they were ALL > running it. Then > > > all of a sudden they were telling each other how smart > they were for being visionary. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > &g

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander J. Perovich
-Original Message- From: David Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:38 PM To: Stephen Remillard Cc: Toronto Asterisk Business Group Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? Big companies use open source all the time. They just don't ma

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread David Cook
Big companies use open source all the time. They just don't make it known. The Avaya S8700 platform (big ass call-centre switch with up to 72,000 end points) uses Red Hat Linux under the covers. dbc. -- David Cook Quoting Stephen Remillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The problem I have here is to f

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Jim Van Meggelen
> of a sudden they were telling each other how smart they > were for being visionary. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: Stephen Remillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM > &

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Stephen Remillard
g each other how smart they were for being visionary. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Stephen Remillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM > > > >

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Philip Mullis
There is an asterisk realtime ldap model you can deploy should you wish to have the same administration level (yep using ad for your user details). Regards Philip Mullis On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 16:13 -0400, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. wrote: > Objectworld (http://www.objectworld.com/products/caoffice/be

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Philip Mullis
-Original Message----- > > > From: Stephen Remillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM > > > To: Toronto Asterisk Business Group > > > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an > > > advertising campaign? > >

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Alex @ Kovasys Inc.
Objectworld (http://www.objectworld.com/products/caoffice/benefits.php) is a good example of Unified Messaging solution: they have integration of different users using Windows Server Active Directory for their email, SIP accounts, faxes, IVR, voice mail, etc - all changed from Windows Server admin

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread John Van Ostrand
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 15:57 -0400, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. wrote: > Problem is that large institutions do not just need a PBX system, but > they need a unified messaging solution (which Asterisk is far away > from -- in my humble opinion). Explain unified messaging. Right now I have emails, faxes, an

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Alex @ Kovasys Inc.
of a sudden they were telling each other how smart they were for being visionary. Jim > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Remillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM > To: Toronto Asterisk Business Group > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Jim Van Meggelen
OTECTED] > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM > To: Toronto Asterisk Business Group > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an > advertising campaign? > > The problem I have here is to find serious case studies or > testimonials of big company names that successfully

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Simon P. Ditner
That almost sounds like a slogan. Let us (opensource) be your competitive advantage(tm) ;-) On 6/15/07, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are many implementation of Asterisk out there by large enterprises - but they prefer not too publicize it too much as I think it would take

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Alex @ Kovasys Inc.
There are many implementation of Asterisk out there by large enterprises - but they prefer not too publicize it too much as I think it would take away money from their stock options. For example, companies like Yellow Pages has adopted Asterisk way back: http://www.asteriskvoipnews.com/asterisk_c

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Stephen Remillard
The problem I have here is to find serious case studies or testimonials of big company names that successfully deployed Asterisk in a decent size production environment. The CEOs & CFOs (at least where I work) see the OpenSource factor as a problem rather than an asset. They are afraid of trus

Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Alex @ Kovasys Inc.
r de courrier électronique ou par un autre moyen. -Original Message- From: Simon P. Ditner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 15, 2007 11:27 AM To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? I was showing a friend of mine Ubuntu last night, and

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Keith Major | Aquarius Telecom Inc.
June 15, 2007 11:27 AM To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? I was showing a friend of mine Ubuntu last night, and he was astonished that something so complete and useable was out there, and said "Why haven't I (a normal computer

RE: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign?

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander J. Perovich
business) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 416-907-8041 x401     making tech - logical -Original Message- From: Simon P. Ditner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:27 AM To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] Does open source telephony need an advertising campaign? I was showing