Re: [blfs-dev] A comment about xz

2011-11-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:28:55 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working a bit with tex-live. I now uses xz to compress their very large files (126M and 1.2G). I note that it takes quite a bit more time to extract these files than bz2. The tradeoff may be worth it, but

Re: [blfs-dev] GTK+-2.24.8

2011-11-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:32:07 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote: On 20/11/11 12:53, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: The md5sum does not match. I believe it should be 5408d4a70ac132f7c439d7de40e83aff Regards, Wayne. I should wait until the build finishes before posting;) The

Re: [blfs-dev] livetex

2011-11-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:01:38 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to get livetex properly built and installed today and have had a lot of problems. First, the build issues are relatively minor. I do not have X installed and have to pass --without-x

[blfs-dev] atk, pango, cairo and ffmpeg

2011-11-20 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello, I've started work on a new page to add gtk+-3 to the book. It's getting lots of developer attention so it's well maintained and installing it is a lot more straightforward than some of the other things I've done lately so I expect to have it done tomorrow. I've noticed that atk, pango,

Re: [blfs-dev] udev-175

2011-11-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:40:19 -0800 (PST) Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi, RE: LFS 6.5, 6.7, 6.8 I have been able to upgrade udev to 173, but since then, the attempts to upgrade to 174 or directly to 175 have not succeeded. Systems boot until the error message (I am

Re: gdk-pixbuf-2.24.0

2011-11-19 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:42:14 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote: NP, I couple of more things I've just noticed. gobject-introspection and jasper are optional dependencies. Indeed they are. Thanks again. Fixed (again). Andy --

Re: cups and glib

2011-11-19 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:46:20 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Based on the current build instructions, Cups creates files under /usr/etc and /usr/var. Glib2 creates bash completion scripts under /usr/etc. Not directly related to BLFS, but it also looks like Coreutils has

gtk+-2.24, gtk+-3.2 and gdk-pixbuf

2011-11-18 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello, I'd like to update Audacious to the current version, 3.0.4, but Audacious depends of gtk. It can build against either gtk-+2 or gtk-+3. The version of gtk-+2 that we have in the book, 2.20.1 is quite old so before I update Audacious I'd like to update gtk-+2 to the current version, 2.24.8.

Re: guile 2.0.3

2011-11-18 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:56:34 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Also, I could not build Guile with libunistring. Should libunistring be a required dependancy? Do you mean without libunistring? Guile-2.0.3 builds fine with libunistring-0.9.3 installed here. ldd shows

Re: gdk-pixbuf-2.24.0

2011-11-18 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:29:39 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote: The dependency pkg-config is linked to the Configuring pkg-config section rather than the pkg-config page. Thanks Wayne, fixed. It should have been xref linkend=pkgconfig/ instead of xref linkend=pkg-config/

Re: ppp-2.4.5

2011-11-17 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:35:31 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. Be my guest. How will you test it? Who uses it today? I was thinking it should be dropped. I use it and can test it for pppoe and pppoatm, but there's some stuff on the page about dialup, GPRS and EDGE that I

Re: ppp-2.4.5

2011-11-17 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:51:16 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: If you really want a challenge, get nfs-utils to work with glibc-2.14{,.1} Sorry, I've never used nfs. There are enough things that I do use that need some attention. Andy --

Re: Just thought of something

2011-11-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:55:13 + Ken Moffat k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Those were good enough to build firefox-8.0 (with its other dependencies, particularly yasm (1.1.0) and a newer libvpx (I used v0.9.7-p1, I expect that is now old hat) Funny you should mention that. Current

ppp-2.4.5

2011-11-16 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello, I've been thinking of doing some work on BLFS. Would anyone mind if I updated ppp to 2.4.5? Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: BLFS Progress

2011-11-14 Thread Andrew Benton
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:52:48 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: AFAIK, the current release is still 7.6. Of course, many of the individual packages have had more releases. I guess the big question (if you want to update it) is do you want to stick with the 1.9 server, or move

Re: Request for comment

2011-11-09 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:21:27 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: If people just posted to blfs-dev that said I just built package-x.y.z and I had to change the instructions to... I'd do the XML. I just built libmpeg2-0.5.1. It compiles according to the instructions in the book

Re: firefox-8.0.source

2011-11-09 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:28:56 -0600 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I'd appreciate knowing the instructions you used. I can't do it yet because I haven't put X on my development system yet. I compile firefox with: tar xf firefox-8.0.source.tar.bz2 chown -R root:root mozilla-release

Re: glib1 and gtk1

2011-11-05 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:39:38 -0400 Jonathan Oksman jonathan.oks...@gmail.com wrote: xmms was fun back in the day, but the reality is the codebase is not going to be brought into a gtk2 future. There was a fork called Beep Media Player which ported the codebase to gtk2, but the project appears

Re: glib1 and gtk1

2011-11-05 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:03:40 -0400 Jonathan Oksman jonathan.oks...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! I'm going to have to give that a whirl. The current version of Audacious is 3.0.4 http://distfiles.atheme.org/ Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Python2 vs Python3

2011-10-31 Thread Andrew Benton
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:33:40 -0500 DJ Lucas d...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: On 10/30/2011 04:55 PM, Andrew Benton wrote: With a lot of work it's possible to compile and install libxml2's python bindings into python3 but the effort was all in vain, they don't work as they use python 2 isms

libmpeg2-0.5.1 Segmentation fault

2011-10-31 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello Although libmpeg2-0.5.1 compiles fine with gcc-4.6 it segfaults when I try to run anything linked to it. The solution is to edit libmpeg2/idct_mmx.c and change all the static const into just static: sed -i 's#static const#static#' libmpeg2/idct_mmx.c I found the solution in Mandriva's

Re: Linux-PAM and Bekkeley DB

2011-10-30 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:02:53 -0500 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: On 30/10/11 09:43, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Try building db with --enable-dbm. Thanks, that worked. As mentioned by DJ in the previous post, I think this should be included in the standard

Re: Python2 vs Python3

2011-10-30 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:03:59 -0500 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: basicnet/netprogs/subversion.xml Subversion definitely fails to compile it's python bindings with python-3 as /usr/bin/python, I tested that earlier. general/genlib/glib2.xml Glib2 fails in it's gio tests if

Re: Python 3.2.2

2011-10-29 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:24:11 -0500 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any naming conflicts between python3 and python2? It looks like I have: /usr/bin: pydoc3 python3python3.2 python3.2m pydoc3.2 python3-config

Re: Python 3.2.2

2011-10-28 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:57:15 +1100 Wayne Blaszczyk wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote: On 28/10/11 21:13, Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: Some observations about the latest Python build. Besides the http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/blfs/svn/Python-3.2.2-bdb_4.8-1.patch missing, there is no

Re: ca-bundle and openssl

2011-10-15 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:45:00 -0400 Jonathan Oksman jonathan.oks...@gmail.com wrote: /etc/ssl/certs makes sense to me. I'm an /etc minimalist though and don't like having extra content without a really good reason. /etc/pki could make sense if you wanted your certificate information

Re: ca-bundle and openssl

2011-10-14 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:21:37 -0500 Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: This is mostly for DJ. I think we should add information to the BLFS openssl page on how to create a ca bundle. I tried looking at some older messages, but cvs.fedoraproject.org no longer exists. I can find a

Re: The State of BLFS

2011-07-31 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:22:52 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 07/29/2011 07:29 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: I am open to suggestions, let the community speak out! C'mon, we need to keep BLFS alive! So I grabbed the SVN, which produced nothing interesting in the top level

Re: The State of BLFS

2011-07-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:11:10 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I'm building a dozen targets and only x86-64 tries to install stuff in lib64. I create a temporary lib64-lib symlink during the gcc build and then delete it again after gcc finishes crapping into it. gcc builds fine for

Re: blfs svn 20110620 ntp 4.2.4p7 -- failure to start, possible bootscript typo

2011-07-02 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 01:44:11 -0500 MBW mbw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just went through the installation procedure for NTP-4.2.4p7 as outlined in BLFS svn 20110620 and all was well until I tried to start /etc/rc.d/init.d/ntp. After issuing (as root): /etc/rc.d/init.d/ntp start I was

Re: Boost building

2011-03-12 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:43:48 +0600 Vladislav Kuzkokov vladislav.kuzko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, In order to keep LFS/BLFS the major source of concise building instructions. Boost.IOStreams optionally requires zlib and libbz2. Alternatively you can use ./bjam -sNO_ZLIB=1

Re: Variability in build times.

2010-10-19 Thread Andrew Benton
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:38:48 -0400 linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: start=$(date +%s) ... stuff happens ... end=$(date +%s) elaps=$(( end - start )) That's an interesting suggestion. Thanks! Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: xorg luit?

2010-09-29 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:15:09 -0400 linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: Luit is in the X Window System table of contents, xterm is not. Does anything really need luit? Can I build without it? -- I don't build luit. xterm doesn't need it Andy --

Re: Xorg download a little easier

2010-09-27 Thread Andrew Benton
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:52:42 -0400 linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: wgetter Scripting nitpick Launch 2 subprocesses when you could do it in bash? Instead of: here=$(basename $(pwd)) Try: here=${PWD##*/} /Scripting nitpick Andy --

faac-1.28

2010-05-16 Thread Andrew Benton
The faac-1.28 page says that it installs libmp4v2.so. I couldn't get it to install libmp4v2.so (I needed it for easytag - I had some m4a files with broken metadata) so I downloaded mp4v2 http://code.google.com/p/mp4v2/ and used that (easytag still needed some hacking but I got there in the end).

ghostscript jasper patch

2010-04-30 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello, when installing ghostscript, the jasper patch can be replaced by a sed: sed -i '/e j/,+5d;/b(s/d' base/sjpx.c Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Rox Filer

2010-03-30 Thread Andrew Benton
Rox Filer is a gtk2 file browser with few dependencies but it is not a straightforward CMMI to install it. I think it would be appreciated by the people who read the book so I've made the attached patch which will add it to the book. Please apply. Andy diff -Naur

Re: Doubt about a link for gnumeric

2006-07-15 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: Alessandro Alocci wrote these words on 07/14/06 14:01 CST: Hi, the symlink ln -vsf $(pkg-config --variable=prefix \ ORBit-2.0)/share/gnome/help/gnumeric \ /usr/share/gnumeric/1.6.3/doc is going to create a broken symbolic link if you have gnome installed in a

Re: Configuring SDL-1.2.11

2006-07-12 Thread Andrew Benton
DJ Lucas wrote: The NAS check hard-codes the prefix values for /usr/X11 and /usr/X11R6 in configure.in. That is silly, but the sed mentioned by Simon does work around the problem as done so many other places in the book. That's what I thought, I was going to look at the form of words you've

Re: Configuring SDL-1.2.11

2006-07-10 Thread Andrew Benton
Simon Scheiwiller wrote: Hi When you install SDL-1.2.11 without having SVGAlib installed, you need to pass --disable-video-svga to configure, or you'll get a ld: can't find -lvga error. Works for me. I don't install SVGAlib and the only mention I have of `vga' in my SDL-1.2.11 buildlog is on

mp4, m4a, faac and faad

2006-06-29 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello World, faac and faad http://www.audiocoding.com/ are useful for encoding and decoding mp4 audio. They're mentioned on a couple of pages in the book as optional dependencies. Do people think they would be useful additions to BLFS? Andy --

Re: gnome 2.14

2006-06-13 Thread Andrew Benton
Eloi Primaux wrote: Hello, i don't know if you noticed it but the gnome desktop described by the book is guetting old (2.12) and i'm sure it is not due to lazying but to horrible list of its dependencies and the lack of documentation of the utopia project (dbus, policykit, hal and

Re: the patch of cdrtools is not work

2006-06-03 Thread Andrew Benton
Fei Li wrote: when i apply the cdrtools-2.01-ascii-1.patch,I got this message: patching file cdrecord/cdrecord.c missing header for unified diff at line 36 of patch can't find file to patch at input line 36 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was:

Re: ppp requires libpcap?

2006-05-30 Thread Andrew Benton
Vladimir A. Pavlov wrote: According to sources/ppp-2.4.3/pppd/Makefile.linux: # Uncomment the next line to include support for PPP packet filtering. # This requires that the libpcap library and headers be installed # and that the kernel driver support PPP packet filtering. So if you won't use

ppp requires libpcap?

2006-05-29 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello World the ppp-2.4.3 page lists libpcap as a required dependency, but for me it installs and runs fine without libpcap installed. Should it be listed as an optional dependency instead? Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: libXvMCW

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Benton
Archaic wrote: One of the reasons for keeping Xfree was because it was nearly maintenance free. The package itself may be, but obviously anything that uses X components requires a lot of hassle only because of Xfree. Does any editor here use Xfree? I don't use it (the code hasn't been updated

Re: gaim's listing of gnutls

2006-05-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Archaic wrote: While updating my scripts for the latest gnutls (it's been a long while) I went through everything again. libgpg-error doesn't seem to technically be a required dep of gnutls, but it is required for libgcrypt and libgcrypt is required for gnutls (even though the docs make it out

Re: gaim's listing of gnutls

2006-05-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Archaic wrote: I will be testing that in a few days. I generally build opencdk and libtasn1, but then the last time I updated my scripts they weren't part of the gnutls tarball. I've just done some more testing and the libtasn1 bundled with gnutls works fine for me now. Maybe it has changed

Re: gaim's listing of gnutls

2006-05-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Andrew Benton wrote: It's the same with the mozilla nss libraries. Gaim will compile against them with all the right shared libraries built. It looks good, until we try to connect to msn, and then it doesn't work. I've just done some further testing of this with nss-3.11 compiled using

Re: gaim's listing of gnutls

2006-05-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Andrew Benton wrote: I've just done some further testing of this with nss-3.11 compiled using Randys instructions in the book and it works fine so I'll alter the page to add nss-3.11 as another optional dependency. I spoke too soon. Gaim-2.0.0beta3 likes nss-3.11 but I can't get Gaim-1.5.0

Re: xorg fonts question

2006-05-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: I had gotten into the habit of using -n when creating directory symlinks because I'd had an issue where it would create subdirectories if the command was run repeatedly. Now I can't recreate the behavior. It can be dropped. They're on the XFree page as well Andy --

Re: [Mplayer] /dev/dvd link

2006-05-15 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I am seriously considering an About Devices page in Chapter Three to handle all the BLFS udev/device issues. What would it cover? Mplayer and Xine need a dvd symlink to be able to read DVDs Alsa is pretty well covered by the current LFS rules and just needs people to be

Re: ntp

2006-05-05 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'm starting to update ntp and am unsure how to proceed. The current version is now ntp-4.20a-20060224.tar.gz. Do we use this name or just ntp-4.20a in the title? I lean toward ntp-4.20a, but I have another file on my system that is ntp-stable-4.2.0a-20050816.tar.gz (date

Re: Openssl

2006-05-03 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Any confirming messages or cluebats will be appreciated. I can confirm what you said, but I've no cluebat. Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Updating ALSA

2006-04-20 Thread Andrew Benton
Chris Staub wrote: What about mpg123, which is listed by BLFS as requiring alsa-oss? It's possible that BLFS is simply wrong, since mpg123's Makefile has a linux-alsa target. I'm trying to test this myself, but I'm having problems getting it to compile at all, possibly due to GCC 4.1/Glibc

Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello World! I've just rebuilt with gcc-4.1 and I was pleasantly surprised how painless it was. Aspell-0.60.4 needed a sed sed -i 's,NroffFilter::process_char ,process_char ,' \ modules/filter/nroff.cpp And so did OpenSP-1.5.1 (along with the usual patches) sed -i

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: There was a solution posted to lfs-dev: http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-dev/2006-March/056141.html Thanks, that worked great. I probably could have worked that out for myself if I'd taken five minutes to think about it. That's another

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: Good to hear. I'm hoping that LFS will cut a test branch soon so I can update GNOME using the (what should be the next version of LFS). But until I'm certain that trunk won't move to a new GCC or Glibc before cutting the test branch, I really don't want to do a lot of

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: Great to hear. What glibc version were you using? glibc-2.4. A cvs pull from the nineteenth of march. Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is great news Andy. If you would be so kind, please put these findings in the appropriate wiki pages so other users can know what changes are needed. Done. The OpenSP-1.5.1 fix may not be needed. Hopefully OpenSP-1.5.2 will be released soon. Andy --

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Andrew Benton wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: Great to hear. What glibc version were you using? glibc-2.4. A cvs pull from the nineteenth of march. If you use the official glibc-2.4 release tarball, when you untar glibc-libidn-2.4 folder, make sure you rename it libidn (so that the folder

Re: Gcc-4.1

2006-04-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Yes, that's the current plan. We're trying to finish up the list of tickets slated for 6.2 so we can branch for testing. Updated toolchain for trunk will follow. Is that wise? As it stands LFS is out of date. Old gcc, old glibc, old kernel headers. As soon as trunk

Re: Games for BLFS

2006-04-13 Thread Andrew Benton
John Gnew wrote: What I am looking for is some input for additional games that I can include. Try vectoroids ftp://ftp.billsgames.com/unix/x/vectoroids/src/vectoroids-1.1.0.tar.gz It needs SDL-image and SDL_mixer-1.2.5 (I think it has an issue with 1.2.6) Worth a few idle minutes. Andy --

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-09 Thread Andrew Benton
Andrew Benton wrote: If Gnome VFS can now use inotify directly it makes me wonder if Gamin is still needed. One test build later, no it isn't. If Gnome VFS can use the kernel inotify directly then Gamin and FAM are superfluous. I can untar something onto my desktop and it shows up straight

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: But you never answered my question, what did you do to get inotify to work on a stock LFS system. It is becoming clear to me now, but how you're getting inotify to work is still a mystery to me. I didn't answer because I would just have been repeating what Dan said. I'm

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: Andy, what happens if you don't have fstab entries and no HAL? Well obviously, if there's no suitable entry in /etc/fstab then I'd have to become root to be able to mount something. I don't like the idea of using a daemon running in the background all the time. Working

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew Benton
Joe Ciccone wrote: A lot of the packages don't *require* build and function, Building without dbus/hal can greatly cut the features down a but, eg. gnome/kde without hal basicly means no volume management. etc... That's not true. A properly configured system doesn't need this daemon to

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: Please now explain how you think that music CDs are autoplayed in the absence of dbus/hal. This is something that monitoring fstab, volumes, directories and whatnot cannot really detect. Audio CD's can't be mounted, they are not handled by /etc/fstab. To play an audio CD

Re: PAM (from D-Bus/HAL discussion)

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew Benton
Jürg Billeter wrote: Well, gnome-volume-manager is part of the official Gnome Desktop and gnome-volume-manager requires HAL, so I wouldn't call it FUD that Gnome requires HAL. But it is not true to say Gnome requires HAL. Gnome works fine without gnome-volume-manager, HAL or D-Bus Of

Re: problem starting gnome 2.12.2

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew Benton
DJ Lucas wrote: Yes, the _pages_ must be rewritten and no there is no way that Xorg-7.0 is anywhere near ready for a quick release. Ag's suggestion of 10 pages, seems most sensible here, even though it doesn't follow the X developers' logical package types. I've disliked that layout since the

Re: Fixing X Fonts Section, really

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: It's time to finally finish this off. Here are the things I see that need to go in the book. Excellent. Thanks Dan, that looks really good. When you talk about the international fonts and the unifont guide, will you say something about how, if the text is in a language

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-18 Thread Andrew Benton
DJ Lucas wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: Regardless, the fonts will be going in the X default location ($XORG_PREFIX/lib/X11/fonts) and symlinks to OTF and TTF will be made in /usr/share/fonts. I think you, Alexander and I are in agreement here. :-) Andrew, DJ? Personally, I don't care which

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-18 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/18/06, Andrew Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --with-fontdir=/usr/share/X11/fonts/$3 Where $3 is one of 100dpi 75dpi Type1 misc TTF speedo cyrillic or OTF I thought that fontdir=${libdir}/X11/fonts/$3 for each package, so that it was as easy as passing --libdir=/usr

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: The standard (and more correct) solution is to install TTF fonts that contain Chinese glyphs instead of relying upon the fonts that come with Xorg. Please install the Firefly font for Chinese, Kochi fonts for Japanese and Baekmuk for Korean. Yes, DejaVu fonts

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/16/06, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please install the Firefly font for Chinese, Kochi fonts for Japanese and Baekmuk for Korean. Yes, DejaVu fonts are for European languages only. http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/FireFly/fireflysung-1.3.0.tar.gz

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-17 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: cat /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-preferred.conf EOF ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd !-- /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-preferred.conf file to configure preferred fonts -- fontconfig alias familyserif/family prefer familyDejaVu

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-16 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: You're probably right about Type1 fonts being an issue, but I don't think bitmapped fonts are ignored. I think you're right about bitmap fonts. I install some truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/TTF (obviously, as an English speaker, these are the main fonts for me) and

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-16 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: Hey, Andy, here's a test I thought of. I'm not on my Linux box to do it myself, and you seem like you have a good setup for the test. In /etc/fonts/conf.d, there should be a file called no-bitmaps.conf (in fontconfig-2.3.2+ there is). Change the name to 10-no-bitmaps.conf

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-16 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/16/06, Andrew Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion, if Firefox and other Fontconfig dependent apps cannot render Chinese or Japanese glyphs that is a bug. The solution is to install bitmap fonts in a location where Fontconfig can find them. I think the wise

Re: r5718 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome x/installing

2006-03-15 Thread Andrew Benton
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/15/06, Andrew Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: my plan is: * Add --libdir=/usr/share to the Fonts section of xorg7.xml with note that the fonts will end up in /usr/share/X11/fonts with the switch. Won't installing the fonts in /usr/share

Re: More on gaim

2006-03-15 Thread Andrew Benton
Marc St-Jacques wrote: The SSL FAQ on the gaim web site doesn't mention compiling libtasn1 before gnuTLS. I disagree http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq-ssl.php#q25 This info is also on the BLFS gaim page The compiling of gnuTLS did not go well because of inclusion issues on the libtasn1 files.

Re: Xorg 7.0.0 - MesaLib install fails due to missing -lXxf86vm

2006-03-11 Thread Andrew Benton
Gerard Beekmans wrote: Reached the Xorg Apps section which says to install MesaLib. I follow the book's instructions and MesaLib fails due to a missing Xxf86vm library. I don't have it installed in /usr/X11R7 and I did install all the libraries and utilities. Perhaps you need to install

Re: Adding seamonkey

2006-02-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: ln -v -sf nss.pc /usr/lib/pkgconfig/seamonkey-nss.pc ln -v -sf nspr.pc /usr/lib/pkgconfig/seamonkey-nspr.pc I'm wondering why we make these links. If we are using the system nss/nspr libraries, I would think that the seamonkey-ns*.pc are just not valid. There are no

Re: New BLFS Editor

2006-02-27 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I would like to announce that Dan Nicholson has been appointed as the newest BLFS Editor. Please help me in welcoming him to the project. I'm glad to hear it. An excellent decision. Welcome Dan! Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [BLFS Trac] #1813: Librsvg build broken if using nss/nspr

2006-02-25 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: The fact is that the build as documented - doesn't. This is not because Firefox doesn't use it, but because the librsvg package build is now broken in the BLFS book. The editors should know, and it should be recorded. Fixing it is up to you.

Re: OOo, Xorg7.0 etc etc etc

2006-02-19 Thread Andrew Benton
DJ Lucas wrote: /usr/X11 as the default with /usr as the option, similar to the way it is now. :-/ I prefer the /usr method as default now for the book as that is what the distros seem to be doing...less chance for breakage that way later on down the road +1 for /usr please Andy --

Re: K3B Dependencies (dvd+rw-tools)

2006-02-10 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: We agree on this point. I believe DJ offered an opinion on this as well that dvd+_rw-tools should be in the book. Sorry I didn't offer an opinion. Thanks for adding it to the book. Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Libxklavier

2006-02-03 Thread Andrew Benton
go moko wrote: I've installed libxklavier 2.1 as explained in SVN book, and I took this error during the make: Works for me. The same part of my compile log looks like this gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -Wall -Werror -DDATA_DIR=\/usr/share/libxklavier\ -I. -I/usr/include

Re: Libxklavier

2006-02-03 Thread Andrew Benton
go moko wrote: I've installed libxklavier 2.1 as explained in SVN book, and I took this error during the make: If you're following the instructions in BLFS, why does it list DDATA_DIR as /usr/local/share/libxklavier? Why is libxml2 in /usr/local? How else have you deviated from BLFS? gcc

Re: Firefox SVG

2006-01-25 Thread Andrew Benton
Bruce Dubbs wrote: According to what I read, most FF binaries come with svg built in. I now think that it would be expected by most users and should be the default. +1 Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: gnome-doc-utils does not need --localstatedir

2006-01-21 Thread Andrew Benton
Nico R. wrote: I disagree. My buildlog shows several files and folders being installed into /var/lib Same here. But the scrollkeeper directory is detected by using 'scrollkeeper-config --pkglocalstatedir'. That should output '/var/lib/scrollkeeper'. I see, yes, it detects the location of the

Re: popt's debian patch

2006-01-15 Thread Andrew Benton
Tushar Teredesai wrote: IMO, we should remove the patch from the book and just make it a CMMI installation. +1 Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew Benton
DJ Lucas wrote: Oh as far as ed as a required dependency, grep through your configure logs if you keep them separate. Unfortunately I'm not that sophisticated. I keep the logs from each application separate, but I log CMMI all in one file. Consequently grepping for `ed' gets me lots of hits

Re: Xorg 7.0

2006-01-09 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: I agree with everything Andy says, except installing into /usr. The default should be the expected method and location. Installing into /usr should be the reader's option to change from the default. If he wants to stray from the default, great, Your Distro, Your Rules.

Whither Sawfish?

2005-12-30 Thread Andrew Benton
Hello world, What's to be done with Sawfish? Does anyone use it? It doesn't compile with gtk-4. The fix is a simple sed sed -i 's,static ch,extern ch,g' src/main.c But rather than fix it, wouldn't it be better to remove Sawfish from the book? Thoughts anyone? Andy --

Re: XFree86

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Ken Moffat wrote: Do you mean 5.92 ? LFS-svn has been on 5.93 for a few weeks, and some of the behaviour is definitely different between the two versions. Yes, I'm a bit behind, I've been busy. 5.93 is fixed, the problem is just with 5.92. It's been bugging me for weeks. Andy --

Re: Gnumeric HTML creation is partially broken

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Randy McMurchy wrote: 1) Change the installation prefix of GNOME Doc Utils to /usr. This is probably the preferred (and easiest) solution to implement. There is precedent of installing some GNOME packages in /usr. See the GNOME Icon Theme package. Additionally, because GNOME Doc Utils files are

Re: Gnumeric HTML creation is partially broken

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Benton
Andrew Benton wrote: A possible third option might be this ugly sed sed -i 's,$(datadir)/x,`pkg-config --variable=prefix ORBit-2.0`/share/x,' \ doc/C/Makefile If that is run just before make -C doc html then it should all `just work'. Another option is to run configure again like so

Re: xorg X11R7.0

2005-12-27 Thread Andrew Benton
Archaic wrote: Is BLFS going to adopt /usr/X11R7? If not, then it will obviously break your build method. And since /usr/X11R7 will suffer the same problems as /usr WRT to assumptions made by other packages, would now be the time to default to /usr? I like /usr. It works for me with

Re: [LONG] Font configuration (was: r5440)

2005-12-26 Thread Andrew Benton
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: snip tons of good stuff and useful links that should be in a font hint 4) Andrew Benton wants to remove GTK1 and other legacy toolkits from the book, It's true, but I don't think it's likely to happen anytime soon. and he made X core fonts misconfigured

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