Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

2009-10-12 Thread chiliblindman
This is a quote from wikipedia Where units of horsepower are used for marketing consumer products, often measurement methods are designed by advertisers to maximize the size of the number produced for any product, even if this may not reflect realistic capacity of the product to do work when

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2009-10-11 Thread Edward Przybylek
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question I don't know really how you would do that without very specialized equipment but it really doesn't matter much so long as it performs to your requirements. There quite probably is a measure which can

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2009-10-11 Thread Edward Przybylek
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael baldwin Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:24 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question I would almost guess that the peak hp of that motor is 3.5, but the continuous hp

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2009-10-11 Thread Dale Leavens
, October 11, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Hi Michael, I'm sure your correct about so many of these ratings being marketing ploys for people who know little about a given subject. I've always been a firm believer of the bigger is better concept

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2009-10-11 Thread Bob Kennedy
10:17 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Hi Dale, Thanks for the information. I never did, and probably never will, understand this horsepower rating stuff. I once owned a table saw that was rated at 2 horsepower and it constantly bogged down trying to cut heavier

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2009-10-11 Thread jim
hey bob don't forget adding in pully sizes too. jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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2009-10-08 Thread Edward Przybylek
%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tom Fowle Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:43 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

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2009-10-08 Thread Edward Przybylek
is greatly appreciated. Take care, Ed Przybylek From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:02 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Well

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2009-10-08 Thread Michael baldwin
and such. It is hard to compare them apples to apples. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Edward Przybylek Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

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2009-10-08 Thread Dale Leavens
, October 08, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Hi Dale, Pretty much, what you said is what I thought but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. How would I verify the horsepower of the motor? Both the manual and the label on the side of the motor claim it's 3.5

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2009-10-07 Thread Tom Fowle
David, One Horsepower is generally considered to require about 750 watts. so 2.25 HP will need a solid 1700 watts. This is probably a peak rating, but none th less it must be on a 20 amp circuit that isn't used much. If you have a coule 200 watt outside lights on at the same time, it will get

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2009-10-07 Thread David Ferrin
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question David, One Horsepower is generally considered to require about 750 watts. so 2.25 HP will need a solid 1700 watts. This is probably a peak rating, but none th less

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2009-10-07 Thread Edward Przybylek
Of Tom Fowle Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:43 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question David, One Horsepower is generally considered to require about 750 watts. so 2.25 HP will need a solid 1700 watts. This is probably a peak rating

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2009-10-07 Thread Tom Fowle
] On Behalf Of Tom Fowle Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:43 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question David, One Horsepower is generally considered to require about 750 watts. so 2.25 HP will need a solid 1700 watts. This is probably

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2009-10-07 Thread Dale Leavens
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fowle Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:43 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question David, One Horsepower is generally considered to require about 750 watts. so 2.25 HP will need a solid

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2009-10-07 Thread Ron Yearns
: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Edward, 3.5 HP times 746 watts per HP over 120 volts is over 21 amps. so they're probably lying about the hp, but you could sure pop a breaker if they aren't. Absolutely no extension cords on this puppy. Tom On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:11:02PM

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2009-10-06 Thread Tom Hodges
or the unit. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:53 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Well I checked in the 96 issue of the NEC

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2009-10-06 Thread David Ferrin
- Original Message - From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:29 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Full load for a treadmill would be the treadmill operating at the fastest speed available, with a person

[BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

2009-10-05 Thread David Ferrin
We just got a new treadmill that has a 2.25 horse power motor in it. I don't recall the formula for calculating the electrical current usage but I know that there are several on here who do know it off the top. It is on a fairly lightly used circuit but that of course depends on the time of day

[BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

2009-10-05 Thread clifford
Dear David: If my memory serves, and it is getting stubborn about that, one horse power equals 760 watts which would result in roughly 7 amps per horse power when running. Most motors require at least a third more power when starting, and if it is starting under load, that can go up a

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2009-10-05 Thread Dale Leavens
] electric motor question Dear David: If my memory serves, and it is getting stubborn about that, one horse power equals 760 watts which would result in roughly 7 amps per horse power when running. Most motors require at least a third more power when starting, and if it is starting under load

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2009-10-05 Thread NLG
] electric motor question We just got a new treadmill that has a 2.25 horse power motor in it. I don't recall the formula for calculating the electrical current usage but I know that there are several on here who do know it off the top. It is on a fairly lightly used circuit but that of course

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2009-10-05 Thread Ron Yearns
- Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question We just got a new treadmill that has a 2.25 horse power motor in it. I don't recall the formula for calculating

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2009-10-05 Thread David Ferrin
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question 1 horsepower equils 746 watts so a 2.25 horse motor equils 1678.5 watts. Dividing 1678.5 watts by 120 volts and you get 13.9875 amps. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin

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2008-02-12 Thread Tom Fowle
David, seven hundred fifty watts per horsepower, thus the typical fifteen amp circuit might just make two horses, theoretically but with start up surge currents probably not. Tom

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2008-02-12 Thread Bob Kennedy
And who ever heard of horses running a table saw. Darn Sears anyhow... - Original Message - From: cheetah To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question thats like the games sears plays

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2008-02-12 Thread cheetah
- From: Dan Rossi To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question Bob, Just pointing out the wide variation between what theory says is possible, and what people are claiming

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2008-02-12 Thread Ron Yearns
- Original Message - From: Bob Kennedy To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question So I guess that means my 3.25 HP router from Freud isn't really 3.25 HP... - Original Message - From

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2008-02-11 Thread David W Wood
Here in the U.K. it is 4 horse power per single A.C. outlet. David -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:48 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor

[BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

2008-02-11 Thread David Ferrin
I'm trying to remember how much in the way of horse power can be generated by a motor operating off a standard electrical outlet. I know it isn't much, probably less than 3 horse power, I just can't recall at this time. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com [Non-text portions of this message have

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2008-02-11 Thread David Sexton
um? 4hp at 110 volts? impossible! - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question It seems like Sears advertises a 4HP 110V AC air compressor

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2008-02-11 Thread Larry Stansifer
It seems like Sears advertises a 4HP 110V AC air compressor. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David W Wood Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:51 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor

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2008-02-11 Thread Dan Rossi
If you have a standard 15 amp circuit at 120 Volts, that is 1800 Watts. There are 746 Watts per Horsey. So about 2.4 HP from a 15 Amp circuit. Bump that up to a 20 Amp circuit, 2400 Watts and you get up to almost 3.5 HP. Max and Tom, did I get those units right? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi

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2008-02-11 Thread David Ferrin
I knew either you or Max would come back with a quick answer for me, thanks. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor

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2008-02-11 Thread Dan Rossi
Bob, Just pointing out the wide variation between what theory says is possible, and what people are claiming is reality. The 3.25 HP your router claims means that it would draw 20.2 Amps at 120 Volts if the motor was perfect. So, no I don't really believe that your router can continuously

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2008-02-11 Thread Dan Rossi
So, not surprisingly, theory and reality are at odds. The 20 amp times 120 volt divided by 746 watts per HP, gives the theoretical value. Luckily, we have folks on the list who know a lot more practical knowledge than someone like me with a bunch of theory. Reality appears to be that you are

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2008-02-11 Thread Max Robinson
] - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question If you have a standard 15 amp circuit at 120 Volts, that is 1800 Watts. There are 746 Watts per Horsey. So about

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2008-02-11 Thread Ron Yearns
for continous duty and the larger might run, but may trip a breaker on starting and be very marginal when running. Ron - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question

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2008-02-11 Thread chiliblindman
A standard regular motor at 1 HP takes around 16 amps and if split capacitor start and run might drop the running amperage to 12 anps, on 120 volts. Starting amperage will be maybe 35 amps. A three Hp motor on 120 volts will draw around 100 amps to start and will need a heck of a

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2008-02-11 Thread Bill and Marie Johnson
- From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question If you have a standard 15 amp circuit at 120 Volts, that is 1800 Watts. There are 746 Watts per Horsey. So about 2.4 HP from a 15

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2008-02-11 Thread Bob Kennedy
: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question I'm trying to remember how much in the way of horse power can be generated by a motor operating off a standard electrical outlet. I know it isn't much, probably less than 3 horse power, I just can't recall

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2008-02-11 Thread Bob Kennedy
So I guess that means my 3.25 HP router from Freud isn't really 3.25 HP... - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question So, not surprisingly, theory

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2008-02-11 Thread Max Robinson
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question um? 4hp at 110 volts? impossible! - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan

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2008-02-11 Thread Bill and Marie Johnson
- From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question It seems like Sears advertises a 4HP 110V AC air compressor. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com

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2008-02-11 Thread Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electric motor question um? 4hp at 110 volts? impossible! - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan