John Redford wrote:
You are right about CPAN. CPAN's hugeness and uneven quality...
... "How can I know if Bob's brand new version 0.03 module is better
than Joe's 3-year old version 9.72 module?"
I see this problem as insoluble...
CPANTS (http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/) is probably a step in the right
Aaron Sherman wrote:
* Help make CPANPLUS work well with all extant package managers
* CPANPLUS - Better integration (platform bias removal)
Could you expand upon CPANPLUS? I played around with it a while ago. I
tried out the Tk UI, but with a 50 MB memory footprint I found it a bit
sluggish, an
David Cantrell wrote:
...if desperate you have to wonder *why* they are desperate - what is it
about them that has kept them unemployed?
If their skills were unmarketable why could they not learn new skills?
You do realize that we're in the midst of a discussion pondering the
very question of whet
Adam Turoff wrote:
Tom Metro wrote:
Adam Turoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If Perl per se matters to you that much, then you should find some way
to make it your day job.
Hmmm...isn't that sort of what were talking about? If there's no job
market for Perl, that's kinda hard to do. Even if you run
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=624&ncid=624&e=4&u=/ap/20050304/ap_on_sc/new_monkey_name
Now THAT is thinking outside the box.
an organization auctioned off the
rights to name a new species of monkey
for $650,000. proceeds went to help
their habitat.
I wond
On Friday, March 4, 2005, at 04:41 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
Bogart Salzberg wrote:
I put some of our recent posts on the certification issue into a
blender and this is what came out.
Wow, I can't say I've ever seen a flame war summarized as a play
before. Impressive.
I can't wait for the movie.
-T
> I can't wait for the movie.
As the fortune cookie says,
Be careful what you ask for!
(in bed | with emacs | with vi | with Perl | with Python )
A mockumentary / dramedy on bickering camelophiles is not out of the
question,
as
* We had Fashion Photos taken at the last Boston.PM meeting.
*
Bogart Salzberg wrote:
I put some of our recent posts on the certification issue into a
blender and this is what came out.
Wow, I can't say I've ever seen a flame war summarized as a play before.
Impressive.
I can't wait for the movie.
-Tom
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Uri Guttman wrote:
> i will recruit general gao to lead my army! (nyc spells it tso ??). i
> will use the kung pao fist to beat on my enemy and the tao of
> programming as my guide. my soldiers will be the shaolin soccer team.
> your fortune cookie reads, "you will lose badl
> "CD" == Chris Devers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
CD> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Aaron Sherman wrote:
>> Oh, and while I'm thinking about dinner (don't ask), I want to mention
>> that there is an AWESOME new Chinese restaurant in Allston called
>> Shanghai Gate. If we can arrange an off-peak
Hey all,
If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion on Perl
certification or Perl popularity, please feel free to do so. That said,
consider that this list may not be the best forum to actually get something
started.
If you just want to write a post analyzing the behavior o
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> Oh, and while I'm thinking about dinner (don't ask), I want to mention
> that there is an AWESOME new Chinese restaurant in Allston called
> Shanghai Gate. If we can arrange an off-peak time to go (they get packed
> around 7-9PM) that would be a very nice
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 14:02, Greg London wrote:
> andrew burke said:
> >> I never excluded people. I was asking them to play a different game.
> >> And I asked those who didn't want to play, to find a different game.
> >
> > This is said without realizing the irony?
>
> Hey, where were you as Iro
Hello Andy,
> I'm sorry I wasn't on this (off-topic) thread earlier, but I don't have
> time to read every mailing list every day. I do some casual Perl coding
> of my own and edited a few Perl books at O'Reilly in the past, but I'm
> not in the Perl loop these days. So I can't judge whether a pa
andrew burke said:
>>> Not on a public list, no. You are free to ask the question, but not to
>>> expect others to constrain themselves to your arbitrary lines of
>>> response. It's not that people don't like you personally, it's just that
>>> we all feel kind of put upon to be told, "don't say wh
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 13:18, Andy Oram wrote:
> I'm sorry I wasn't on this (off-topic) thread earlier, but I don't have
> time to read every mailing list every day. I do some casual Perl coding
> of my own and edited a few Perl books at O'Reilly in the past, but I'm
> not in the Perl loop these day
I'm sorry I wasn't on this (off-topic) thread earlier, but I don't have
time to read every mailing list every day. I do some casual Perl coding
of my own and edited a few Perl books at O'Reilly in the past, but I'm
not in the Perl loop these days. So I can't judge whether a particular
book idea wou
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 13:08:37 -0500, Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 07:54, Kate Wood wrote:
>
> > [...] the barriers to learning and using Perl
> [...]
> > Managers, [...] expect you to have [available certification]
>
> You do realize that those are orthoganal, r
I put some of our recent posts on the certification issue into a
blender and this is what came out. Some of you will recognize your own
words. However, it's supposed to be fun, so trust me: good will is
intended.
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 07:54, Kate Wood wrote:
> [...] the barriers to learning and using Perl
[...]
> Managers, [...] expect you to have [available certification]
You do realize that those are orthoganal, right?
What's more, I GUARANTEE you that I could go learn Java (for which there
is a strong
>> Not on a public list, no. You are free to ask the question, but not to
>> expect others to constrain themselves to your arbitrary lines of
>> response. It's not that people don't like you personally, it's just that
>> we all feel kind of put upon to be told, "don't say what you think, just
>> le
An opinion on the topic of popularity from someone with a different pov:
How different?
Well, I started subscribing to this list a couple of years ago in
conjunction with learning Perl. I wanted to listen in on how Perl
Gurus talk! (yup) (hope that's ok)This is my first post and could be
my last
> I'd just like to express my appreciation for all the fun in this thread.
> Far better than going to the zoo and watching monkeys run around their
> cage.
yes, as one of the monkeys on the list, it's been a blast for me too.
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I'd just like to express my appreciation for all the fun in this thread.
Far better than going to the zoo and watching monkeys run around their
cage.
--
David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 03:20:13PM -0500, Tom Metro wrote:
> Adam Turoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >If Perl per se matters to you that much, then you should find some way
> >to make it your day job.
>
> Hmmm...isn't that sort of what were talking about? If there's no job
> market for Perl, tha
Aaron Sherman said:
> On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 23:52 -0500, Greg London wrote:
>> So, my message has always been along the line of
>> can I just play around with this idea foolishly,
>> without all the reasons why it will never work?
>
> Not on a public list, no. You are free to ask the question, but
> Indeed. Keeping Perl as an island of elitism, which certification
> would threaten to obviate, is a self-serving, self-aggrandizing,
> self-preservative instinct at its finest. Caveat being that when Perl
I think that certification would actually _increase_ the barriers to
learning and using P
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 07:02 -0500, James Linden Rose, III wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2005, at 01:10 AM, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> > If you want to talk about making Perl more popular, here are some ideas
> > ranked in order of how likely I think they are to succeed in terms of
> > large scale adopti
On Friday, March 4, 2005, at 01:10 AM, Aaron Sherman wrote:
If you want to talk about making Perl more popular, here are some ideas
ranked in order of how likely I think they are to succeed in terms of
large scale adoption.
* Help make CPANPLUS work well with all extant package managers
* Work on P
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 01:30:14PM -0500, John Tsangaris wrote:
> David Cantrell wrote:
> >"Sneaking in" perl code is unprofessional. ...
> Again, you may be taking the statement a little too literally. Not to be
> offensive, but you seem to be taking a high
> horse stance on this. You just may
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