And you say my puns are bad.

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
The duenna bots, or security robots, were so named by our good Dr. Brin because, obviously, they can be programmed to due enna thing you want them to do. William Taylor Though the Nish are gregarious among individuals of other races, something odd happens when a Nish is bor

Re: test

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Kevin Tarr wrote: > At 07:26 PM 10/21/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >Kevin Tarr wrote: > > > > > > test > > > >Feeling testy, are we? ;) > > > > Julia > > Very. Verizon is switching to secure mail. > "Oh, we don't support Outlook 97, you need Outlook 98." > "Well I don't want to buy Outlook 98

Re: Brin: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread Doug
Ray Ludenia wrote: Last poll* I heard here in Aus had 53% against and 39% for. Surprisingly little change in numbers after the Bali massacre. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/06/opinion/polls/main524496.shtml CBS News poll: More people now than just two weeks ago favor giving the Unite

Re: World government in 50 years

2002-10-23 Thread Doug
Dan Minette wrote: Because it is highly probable. The world has had states of one kind or another for at least 4000 years. The idea that, after all this time, they would wither away and a world government would form in 50 years is possible, but not very likely. Why would states have to withe

Re: Elections

2002-10-23 Thread Doug
Kevin Tarr wrote: Can anyone see a three or four party system? Could the Libs get a strong foothold in the some states, start to become a real voice? I wish we had a pro wrestler running in Ca. this year for Governor instead of the pair of clowns we have to pick from, both of whom make Gove

Re: The UN

2002-10-23 Thread Doug
Dan Minette wrote: Where in the UN charter does it say that a country must gain permission before defending itself? Your suggestion, that a country should wait until its borders were crossed would fail the Chamberlin test. That is to say, by that rule, England should have done nothing while Hi

Re: N. Korea Says Has Nukes

2002-10-23 Thread Doug
Dan Minette wrote: Well, lets look earlier in that report: There were two inherent flaws noted in the system "(1) retail prices were frozen and (2) with few exceptions, the California Public Utilities Commission prohibited or discouraged long-term contracts between utilities and wholesale sup

Re: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Kanandarqu
Oops, hepatic not renal, sorry. Tired and signing off, Dee > > I have a first cousin who was diagnosed before 2 years old and was lucky > only > to lose one kidney . Initially they said he may lose both/need a transplant > > and the family was setting up for tissue matching (IIRC the n

Re: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Kanandarqu
> > Other than the American Cancer Society's website or those for children's > charities, does anyone on the list have links to sites which provide medical > > information on cancer in young children? I'm specifically looking for > statistics and symptomology of hepatic cancers in infant

Sniper hunt goes to Tacoma

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/10/23/sniper.shootings/index.html Federal authorities searched a yard outside a duplex in a residential neighborhood here Wednesday afternoon in what law enforcement officials said was a connection to the sniper investigation 2,400 miles away in metropolitan Washin

RE: The UN

2002-10-23 Thread Horn, John
> From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:j.vanbaardwijk@;chello.nl] > > >That is to say, by that rule, England should have done nothing while > >Hitler took over Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland. > > England does not have borders with those countries, so when > Hitler attacked > them, England was no

RE: test

2002-10-23 Thread Nick Arnett
We're testing manual "dinging." -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces@;mccmedia.com]On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re

RE: Italian author slams Islam's 'hate' for West

2002-10-23 Thread Joe Hale
alian author slams Islam's 'hate' for West http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021023-18874592.htm Italian author slams Islam's 'hate' for West By Tom Carter THE WASHINGTON TIMES The Islamic world is engaged in a cultural war with the West and the worst is still to

Rebels seize Moscow theatre

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2354753.stm The Russian authorities have begun negotiations with Chechen rebels who have seized a Moscow theatre and are holding hundreds of people hostage. Heavily-armed Russian elite troops are surrounding the building, but the security forces have said they wi

Iraqis linked to Oklahoma atrocity

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/1678779 The FBI is under pressure from the highest political levels in Washington to investigate suspected links between Iraq and the Oklahoma bombing. Senior aides to US Attorney-General John Ashcroft have been given compelling evidence that former Ira

Re: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jon wrote: >A couple of weeks ago one of my oldest and dearest friend's two year >old was diagnosed with liver cancer. They're investigating >treatment options, but have been told prognosis isn't good. I was afraid you were asking for a reason like this. I am truly sorry to hear that. Jim __

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS > In a message dated 10/23/2002 5:01:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Naturally, D

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 5:01:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Naturally, Dr. Brin never answered back. > Slinky. For that pun you should only be shot. xponent Slinky Maru rob >> Perhaps we could get the good Dr. Brin to publ

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS > Use a reality tube with the reality flanges pointed inwards. Have a whale, > who is of course a member of the transc

Re: River Of Time, Otherness & other Br!n books......

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 4:26:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Just ran across a lot of 5 Brin books on Ebay for $5.00. Several of them are out of print (I think) like River Of time, Otherness and the original printing of The Practice Effect. Glory Season and

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 2:21:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << so no B, C, D or E space is left just normal space therefor the name shallow cluster) as a result of the detachment from the other galaxies. >> I do so hope E space still exists. I already sent

Re: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:19 PM Subject: RE: List request: Cancer links > Hi Nick and Jim, > > Thank you very much for those links. And, Nick, I would be completely open > to alternative (home

River Of Time, Otherness & other Br!n books......

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Nunn
Just ran across a lot of 5 Brin books on Ebay for $5.00. Several of them are out of print (I think) like River Of time, Otherness and the original printing of The Practice Effect. Glory Season and The Postman are the other two. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1571400654 Just f

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-23 Thread Matt Grimaldi
"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > At 15:21 22-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > > > Have you noticed that nobody (except me and DB) have criticised JDG for > > > his behaviour? Why do you think that is? > > > >First off, that implies that nobody's said anything about this thread, > >which is ve

Re: test

2002-10-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:49 22-10-2002 -0700, Debbi Harrell wrote: I've sent 2 messages (re: the UN) in the past 15 minutes, but they haven't made it - at least to my computer. I get the impression that there is something wrong with either Nick's server or with his Internet connection. I have noticed in the last

Re: Jeroen Re: the UN

2002-10-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:22 22-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: >>Haven't you previously argued that I *never* understand what you mean? > >Maybe, maybe not. Can you quote a post in which I said that? Because I >really do not have the time to go through some 3,300 posts to see whether >whether or not I said that.

Re: Brin: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:21 22-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: At 11:48 PM 10/22/2002 +0200 J. van Baardwijk wrote: >Through cooperation with other freedom-loving democratic countries, or >by unilaterally deciding to ignore all those potential allies, storming >into country after country with all guns blazing, a

Re: Getting_really_silly

2002-10-23 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 10/23/2002 1:45:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << > Or is that all bunk? > > > > William Taylor > > > > (.waiting for) > > Someone to say that > - they were bonking while boin

Re: Getting_really_silly

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 1:45:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > Or is that all bunk? > > William Taylor > > (.waiting for) Someone to say that - they were bonking while boinking? - for a caveman, bonking leads to boinki

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:21 22-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: > Have you noticed that nobody (except me and DB) have criticised JDG for > his behaviour? Why do you think that is? First off, that implies that nobody's said anything about this thread, which is very untrue. That is not what it is saying (or im

Re: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > If I could still afford to go there I probably would. But now that I have more > free time (well sort of) I'm getting shorter in cash, so I have to shop around a > bit to keep the books balanced and still get the nicer stuff, I don't wanne live > without. Remin

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/23/2002 1:10:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << > The ships have to tap into hyperspace to land or take of. It is mentioned in > HR. > One of the occupants aboard Harries station flying to Jijo piloted by Kaa on >

Re: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Julia Thompson wrote: > > I would *love* to be able to avoid unloading the cart. Sooner or later, > whatever I have for Sammy to play with isn't good enough, and he has to > hold one of the grocery items. And then there's some screaming when I > have to take it out of his hands at the checkout.

Re: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 1:15:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << , who has been known to do that sort of thing when he was 2. Being just before my 3rd birthday, I'm told that I took a screwdriver and removed all of the house's doorknobs, locking myself in a bedr

Re: Shooting Gallery

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Sloan II
At 21:53 22-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: > > > What if the SOB is caught in Maryland by an armed > > > civilian of Virginia that can only legally carry a > > > firearm in his own state? > > > A mild thought to all of this mess. > > This is the perfect example of why we require trial-by-jur

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 1:10:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The ships have to tap into hyperspace to land or take of. It is mentioned in HR. One of the occupants aboard Harries station flying to Jijo piloted by Kaa on the last shreds of hyperspace (I thi

RE: Getting_really_silly

2002-10-23 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
Jean-Louis : >> > For the englishly challenged among us, what exactly >> > would each term mean? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> "Bonk" is the sound that hitting someone on the head with a blunt oject >> makes. >> >> "Boink" is what two people do to, ahem, "express their love." :) >> De : [EMAIL

Re: Low-Carb Diet

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
The Fool wrote: > http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=healthnews&StoryID=1608044 > > Low-Carb Diet Deemed Safe over Short Term > > People who follow a low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet for 6 months may > lose more weight than those on a standard low-fat diet, and they appear to > experie

Re: Shooting Gallery

2002-10-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:53 22-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: >What if the SOB is caught in Maryland by an armed civilian of Virginia that >can only legally carry a firearm in his own state? > >A mild thought to all of this mess. This is the perfect example of why we require trial-by-jury in this country. Wh

Re: Getting_really_silly

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 10:53:31 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > For the englishly challenged among us, what exactly > would each term mean? "Bonk" is the sound that hitting someone on the head with a blunt oject makes. "Boink" is what two people do t

Re: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Julia Thompson
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > -Message d'origine- > De : Julia Thompson [mailto:julia@;zurg.net] > > I would *love* to be able to avoid unloading the cart. Sooner or later, > > whatever I have for Sammy to play with isn't good enough, and he has to > > hold one of the grocery items. An

Re: The UN

2002-10-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:35 PM Subject: Re: The UN > At 16:24 22-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > >Where in the UN charter does it say that a country must gain permission > >before d

RE: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
-Message d'origine- De : Julia Thompson [mailto:julia@;zurg.net] > I would *love* to be able to avoid unloading the cart. Sooner or later, > whatever I have for Sammy to play with isn't good enough, and he has to > hold one of the grocery items. And then there's some screaming when I > ha

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:17:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << >So we know the Jophur have landed and that the war is on. > > > No, the Jophur _left_ an occupation force in Jijo. They took Biblos, > and even some Gray Queens wer

Re: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Julia Thompson
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > -Message d'origine- > De : Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:prutje@;softhome.net] > > Imagine You go into the store, pick a few items, walk out of the > store, > > the tags are automatically scanned without you ever having been in line at > a > > check

RE: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
-Message d'origine- De : Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:prutje@;softhome.net] > Imagine You go into the store, pick a few items, walk out of the store, > the tags are automatically scanned without you ever having been in line at a > check out. You are scanned as well, your data on t

Re: a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
The Fool wrote: > identification chip intended to be implanted in a person's body ..."for > security, financial and personal identification/safety applications." Now if only they also manage to develop that automated checkout some futuristics guy at a Philips demonstration envisioned, your shoppi

Re: The UN

2002-10-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:24 22-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: Where in the UN charter does it say that a country must gain permission before defending itself? A country's self-defense is an internal matter, not an UN matter. However, invading an other country is an act of aggression, not self-defense. Your

RE: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Jon Gabriel
Hi Nick and Jim, Thank you very much for those links. And, Nick, I would be completely open to alternative (homeopathic/naturopathic) sites as well. I'm familiar with homeopathy, but am unsure of its track record on cancer. Anything might be helpful. A couple of weeks ago one of my olde

RE: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Nick Arnett
Jon, There are various resources at www.acor.org, including many lists devoted to particular types of cancer. I'm no fan of the guy who runs it, but it has turned into a fairly comprehensive cancer info site. They don't allow anything much regarding alternative treatments or spirituality as rela

Getting_really_silly

2002-10-23 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > De : Ronn Blankenship > [mailto:ronn.blankenship@;postoffice.worldnet.att.net] > > Oh. You wrote "bonking", not "boinking." > > --Ronn! :) > > For the englishly challenged among us, what exactly > would each term mean? "Bonk" is the sound that hitting someone on

RE: Getting really silly Re: Br¡n war

2002-10-23 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
-Message d'origine- De : Ronn Blankenship [mailto:ronn.blankenship@;postoffice.worldnet.att.net] > Oh. You wrote "bonking", not "boinking." > --Ronn! :) For the englishly challenged among us, what exactly would each term mean? Jean-Louis ___

RE: List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jon Gabriel wrote: >Other than the American Cancer Society's website or those for >children's charities, does anyone on the list have links to sites >which provide medical information on cancer in young children? I'm >specifically looking for statistics and symptomology of hepatic >cancers in

Re: Proposed new etiquette guidieline

2002-10-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Proposed new etiquette guidieline > > Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > Nick Arnett wrote: > >>I'd like to offer a proposal to add a new guidel

List request: Cancer links

2002-10-23 Thread Jon Gabriel
Other than the American Cancer Society's website or those for children's charities, does anyone on the list have links to sites which provide medical information on cancer in young children? I'm specifically looking for statistics and symptomology of hepatic cancers in infants and young kids.

Re: Proposed new etiquette guidieline

2002-10-23 Thread Jim Sharkey
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > Nick Arnett wrote: >>I'd like to offer a proposal to add a new guideline for list >>etiquette. Here it is: > > >>Please don't make multiple responses to the same thread, especially >>to the same author, in a short people of time. >I don't have time to read mo

Re: What's Wrong Here?

2002-10-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: What's Wrong Here? Re: The Future of the World Re: brin: war > You mean it is completely amazing to hope that Democracy and Free Markets > might tr

a chipping we will go

2002-10-23 Thread The Fool
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=571&ncid=751&e=5&u=/nm/20 021022/hl_nm/fda_chip_dc FDA Says It Won't Regulate Implanted ID Chip Tue Oct 22, 5:30 PM ET NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Sales of an identification chip intended to be implanted in a person's body will resume immediately

What's Wrong Here? Re: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread John D. Giorgis
O.k. folks, what is going on here? In the past few days, we have heard Dr. Brin argue: 1) The "no-brainer" solution to Iraq, is to divide up Iraq and Iraq's oil resources between the non-Arab Kurds and the non-Sunni Shiites, without any regard for how this might inflame the "Sunni-Arab" street.

Re: Brin: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Kevin Street wrote: > John D. Giorgis reponded: >> "ALL" those allies?The UK, Australia, Spain, and Italy are all behind >> the US attack on Iraq - and those are just the ones that I have heard of. > > This is just my opinion, but I suspect that the majority of the people in > those countries

Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-23 Thread John D. Giorgis
Let the U.N. Vote Wednesday, October 23, 2002; Page A26 Washington Post Editorial NEARLY SIX weeks have passed since President Bush challenged the United Nations to act to enforce its resolutions on Iraq. Yet there has been no action. Instead, in its attempt to build support in the U.N. Secur

RE: Where else?!

2002-10-23 Thread Horn, John
> From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:jxg9@;po.cwru.edu] > > > ><> > > Question: What would be your reaction if you learned that a > woman (or, > alternatively a woman and her male partner) decided to make > use of this > service to create a "memento" before deciding to a

Re: Temptation - Buyur - Jijo 7? 8? 9? SPOILERS

2002-10-23 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William Taylor wrote: > >>> So we know the Jophur have landed and that the war is on. >> >> No, the Jophur _left_ an occupation force in Jijo. They took Biblos, >> and even some Gray Queens were said to be allying with them. >> > >No, these landed Jophur are different than those Jophur. The additio

Re: Proposed new etiquette guidieline

2002-10-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Nick Arnett wrote: > Everyone, > > I'd like to offer a proposal to add a new guideline for list etiquette. > Here it is: > > Please don't make multiple responses to the same thread, especially to the > same author, in a short people of time. In other words, hold those replies > until you see if y

Re: Getting silly Re: nirb: war

2002-10-23 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/23/2002 1:20:48 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Doctor Brin is back on the list?! Except now he's gone on break??! >> >From the webpage: October 31 - November 2: Utopiales International Science Fiction Festival in Nantes, France. ---I don't kn

RE: Getting silly Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Street
d.brin wrote: > Pleese! Only put "Brin:" in the subject line if it seriously > needs my attention. Interesting. Topical. Urgent or about real SF. > > I gotta hide for a couple of weeks. See you all after the election > > ... about which you already know how I feel. > > Thrive. All of y

RE: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Street
Julia Thompson wrote: > >Getting ridiculous, how about we start by dissolving the composition of >the Security Council and let Canada decide who sits on the new one? It >can't be any worse than it is now for democracies, to let Canada run a >few things for a bit. And nobody is suspicious of Canad

RE: Brin: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Street
J. van Baardwijk wrote: >Through cooperation with other >freedom-loving democratic countries, or by unilaterally deciding to ignore >all those potential allies, storming into country after country with all >guns blazing, and alienating all those other freedom-loving countries from >you in the proce