Re: Details of The Bet Re: Br!n: Re: Peter Arnett has negativeeffect on ratings

2003-04-04 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 06:59 pm, Jon Gabriel wrote: For some reason, I'm reminded of the antiagathics vs. germanium as currency storyline from Cities in Flight by Blish. Has anyone else read it? Not recently... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.dem

Re: Alpha (was: Why I'm pissed off right now)

2003-04-04 Thread Ticia
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I *have* been prepared to kick a dog in the throat once or twice, but it's never come to that. The worst I ever had to deal with that didn't also involve a dog of my own, I managed to psych the dogs out (but was prepared to k

RE: Br!n: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:18 PM 4/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Well, around Baghdad, unsurprisingly enough. Thus to > destroy the Republican Guards, you have to go to > Baghdad. Because, after all, Baghdad won't come to you. - jmh I thought the only way to get to Ba

Re: Ad Astra

2003-04-04 Thread Richard Baker
jmh said: > But if you are interested in any Hero Systems conversions, I'm your > guy! I might take you up on that when I get to writing the game system parts. I must admit that I like the idea of writing rules much more though. Rich, who won't work with any system that hides statistics behind t

Re: Ad Astra

2003-04-04 Thread Richard Baker
Damon said: > My #1 reccommendation to you if you want to sell units is to make it > D20 compatable. This can be as intrusive or unobtrusive as you want > it. I assume the real MEAT of the setting is...the setting! I haven't put much thought into game systems for AA because, as you say, the setti

Re: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:59 PM 4/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23470-2003Apr3.html A satellite that relies on solar power to put it into orbit around the moon was unveiled Thursday by the European Space Agency, which plans to use the spacecraft in Europe's first attempt at a

Re: Calls for an Attack on Riyadh Re: Br!n: David Frum on theWarPlans

2003-04-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:58 PM 4/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: > Debbi > who notes that I apparently replied to JDG's post > before it was sent! What's up with the weird time stamps? Um, I show his post as being timestamped 19:02:55 -0500, or 00:02:55 GMT the next day; I show yours as being timest

Re: Ad Astra

2003-04-04 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Apr 2003 at 12:18, Richard Baker wrote: > Damon said: > > > My #1 reccommendation to you if you want to sell units is to make it > > D20 compatable. This can be as intrusive or unobtrusive as you want > > it. I assume the real MEAT of the setting is...the setting! > > I haven't put much tho

Re: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > If a vehicle was launched towards Mercury > (why we would want to go there?...) could the > spacecraft float towards the sun, being pulled by > gravity, then be captured by Mercury? Or isn't the > pull that strong, or is > it too touch to calculate? > Th

Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-04 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Here is an excellent graphic describing Iraq's chemical weapons arsenal and delivery systems: http://images.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-04/7268711.pdf In other news, we may have confirmation of a "smoking gun" in a few hours or days: http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030404_495.html Office

Debate Over UN Role in Post-War Iraq Begins

2003-04-04 Thread J.D. Giorgis
My general thought is that the reconstruction of Iraq is the US's responsibility, as the primary leader of the coalition, and so the US should be directing the rebuilding efforts - and should welcome whatever humanitarian help is offered by the UN, NATO, or even France in a supporting role. JDG

Rebuilding Iraq Won't Be Free

2003-04-04 Thread J.D. Giorgis
April 4, 2003 E-mail storyPrint Iraq Debts Add Up to Trouble Economists say Bush administration officials are wrong to assume that petroleum revenue will pay for postwar reconstruction. By Warren Vieth, LA Times Staff Writer http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-war-iraqde

British Troops Winning Hearts and Minds

2003-04-04 Thread J.D. Giorgis
It seems to me that there is a national partnership between the US and Europe, with the US specializing in being the best warriors they can be, Europeans specializing in peackeeping, and the British bridging the gap. Here seems to be more evidence for that... JDG >From London to Iraq: Peacek

Geneva convention

2003-04-04 Thread Gilbert Gosseyn
* Gautam Mukunda wrote : > --- "Miller, Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When did the US violate the Geneva convention? > > > > Camp X-Ray? > > Which holds unlawful combatants who are _explicitly_ > denied the protections of POWs by those same > conventions. Well, this is our propaganda

Re: Geneva convention

2003-04-04 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Gilbert Gosseyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, this is our propaganda, targeted to those who > can't read the convention and take media coverage as > truth. Between educated people, are we compelled to > repeat it ? Yes, since it's true. This sort of arrogance is one of the most annoying

Re: Geneva convention

2003-04-04 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gilbert Gosseyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A quick reading of the convention shows that we've breached 15 > articles of the convention. >From Aricle 2 of the 4th Convention: "Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention... they shall

Nick? Re: Timewarp (was: Calls for an Attack on Riyadh)

2003-04-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: > > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > > Debbi > > > who notes that I apparently replied to JDG's post > > > before it was sent! What's up with the weird time > > stamps? > > > > Um, I show his post as being timestamped 19:02:55

Re: Alpha (was: Why I'm pissed off right now)

2003-04-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Ticia wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>I *have* been prepared to kick a dog in the throat > >>once or twice, but it's > >>never come to that. The worst I ever had to deal > >>with that didn't also > >>involve a dog of my own, I m

Re: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-04 Thread Steve Sloan II
Kevin Tarr wrote: > If a vehicle was launched towards Mercury (why we > would want to go there?...) It's probably not a very useful planet in the long run, but it's also the planet (other than Pluto, of course) least-visited by space probes. It's only been visited by one probe, Mariner 10, whi

Re: Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-04 Thread Julia Thompson
"J.D. Giorgis" wrote: > The Associated Press > NEAR BAGHDAD, Iraq April 4 — > U.S. troops found thousands of boxes of white powder, > nerve agent antidote and Arabic documents on how to > engage in chemical warfare at an industrial site south > of Baghdad, a U.S. officer said Friday. > > Col. Joh

RE: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-04 Thread Horn, John
> From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > There's a huge waste of Delta-V [or fuel] by launching > things in a straight line towards planets. The most You know, it's really nice having actual rocket scientists on this list. Especially ones who can explain stuff in such a way t

RE: Nick? Re: Timewarp (was: Calls for an Attack on Riyadh)

2003-04-04 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > Hm. I'm wondering if the archiving stuff isn't converting the timezone > info properly. Nick? I'm not sure what the story is, or where the time in the archives comes from. But having d

more MPAA model legislation

2003-04-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/doc/2003/mpaa_3apr.rtf DRAFT MODEL COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY LEGISLATION BROADBAND & INTERNET SECURITY TASK FORCE. (Revised 4/1/03) GEOFFREY L. BEAUCHAMP, ESQUIRE WISLER, PEARLSTINE, TALONE, CRAIG, GARRITY & POTASH, LLP Of

UN Considers a New Korean War to be "Entirely Possible"

2003-04-04 Thread J.D. Giorgis
NORTH KOREA: U.N. Envoy Says War Is Possible; Security Council To Meet http://www.unfoundation.org/unwire/util/display_stories.asp?objid=32999 UN WIRE U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan's envoy for North Korea, Maurice Strong, yesterday called it "entirely possible" for a war to result from U.S.

Iraq Was Starving Civilians

2003-04-04 Thread J.D. Giorgis
It will be interesting to count the instances of outrage over this, as Saddam attempted to starve civilians in Basra and blame it on the allies. JDG Complex found bulging with food in hungry city Distribution center was used by U.N. oil-for-food program >From Mike Boettcher CNN Thursday, April

Australia's draconian Internet censorship plans

2003-04-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.efa.org.au/Publish/ispblocking.html long ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Notes from yesterdays' MA 2743 hearing

2003-04-04 Thread The Fool
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/dmca-activists/2003-04/msg4.html [DMCA-Activists] Notes from yesterdays' 2743 hearing Date: 03 Apr 2003 18:36:33 -0500 -- -- I probably mangled some names and missed some points he

Rat Olympics, corporations walling off common words (that have beenin use fur hundreds or thousands of years)

2003-04-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/sports/story/744015p-5402117c.html USOC gets catty over 'Rat Olympics' Published Fri, Jan 31, 2003 The Associated Press LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) - A small event at a small Nebraska college has caught the eye of a large national committee. Organizers of Nebraska We

RE: Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-04 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
I'm trying to avoid war discussions right now, as its more than a little stressful, but: > In other news, we may have confirmation of a "smoking > gun" in a few hours or days: > http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030404_495.html > Officer: Troops Find Vials of Powder > Troops Find Vials of Wh

Re: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Steve Sloan II wrote: > >> If a vehicle was launched towards Mercury (why we >> would want to go there?...) > > It's probably not a very useful planet in the long run, > but it's also the planet (other than Pluto, of course) > least-visited by space probes > Because it's also the most difficul

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:37 03-04-2003 +, John Giorgis whined: Please, there is a better way. If you feel the same way that I do, please e-mail the List Admins and ask them to take action against the fundamentally non-serious list-flaming of Jeroen. In the almost five years I've been on Brin-L, I've seen Gio

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-04 Thread Erik Reuter
How two people who consider themselves to be at opposite ends of the political spectrum can be so alike, it is amazing! -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Europe Unveils New Moon-Orbiting Craft

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:57 AM 4/4/03 -0600, Horn, John wrote: > From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > There's a huge waste of Delta-V [or fuel] by launching > things in a straight line towards planets. The most You know, it's really nice having actual rocket scientists on this list. Especially one

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:32 PM 4/4/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: How two people who consider themselves to be at opposite ends of the political spectrum can be so alike, it is amazing! ***SNORT!!*** Obligatory Second Line Maru -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Th

The end of malaria

2003-04-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/4/4/85519/43140 The end of malaria in sight? (Science) By twistedfirestarter Fri Apr 4th, 2003 at 01:28:49 PM EST A biologist at Imperial College in London, Austin Burt, has suggested (technical overview) a dramatic scheme for eradicating the world's most d

SCOUTED: Bush signs executive order on SARS quarantine

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release April 4, 2003 EXECUTIVE ORDER - - - - - - -

Re: Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-04 Thread Julia Thompson
"Miller, Jeffrey" wrote: > http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_767484.html?menu=news.wariniraq > > US military admits 'suspicious' powder is explosive > > American officials have admitted that the thousands of boxes of white > powder they seized north of Baghdad are explosives. So they *have*

Re: Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:54 PM 4/4/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: "Miller, Jeffrey" wrote: > http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_767484.html?menu=news.wariniraq > > US military admits 'suspicious' powder is explosive > > American officials have admitted that the thousands of boxes of white > powder they seized nor

Nick? Re: Timewarp (was: Calls for an Attack on Riyadh)

2003-04-04 Thread Han Tacoma
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > Just wondering what the timesatmp looks like when posting from Yahoo Groups? Cheers! -- Han Tacoma ~ Artificial

SCOUTED: Hearing aids for cats

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
[The question remaining is what to do about all the cats who can hear perfectly well but just don't listen . . . ] New Hearing Aid for Cats Developed by Charlotte LoBuono and Patricia Collier Posted on March 28, 2003 Hans-Rainer Kurz, a German hearing aid manufacturer, has created a device th

SCOUTED: Scientific explanation why black cats are luckier than others

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
From New Scientist: <> Black cats may be the more fortunate felines 18:19 04 March 03 Shaoni Bhattacharya Black cats, a symbol of bad luck in many cultures, may be actually be more fortunate than their fairer relatives. New research sho

SCOUTED: U.S. heart group urges ephedra ban

2003-04-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
U.S. heart group urges ephedra ban Thursday, April 3, 2003 Posted: 2:43 PM EST (1943 GMT) WASHINGTON (Reuters) --The American Heart Association urged a ban of over-the-counter ephedra supplements Thursday, saying they do more harm than good. The association said it supported a Food and Drug Ad

Debate Rages Within Iran

2003-04-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
April 4, 2003, 8:30 a.m. Mullahs Disagreeing The internal debate about Iran’s future. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-taheri040403.asp By Amir Taheri The most dramatic way a mullah can show anger is by throwing his turban on the floor. This is what Iran's President Muhammad Khat

Re: Nick? Re: Timewarp (was: Calls for an Attack on Riyadh)

2003-04-04 Thread Han Tacoma
>>> This is what I sent: To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Han Tacoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 8:58 pm Subject: Nick? Re: Timewarp (was: Calls for an Attack on Riyadh) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

75% of Albertans Want Canada in the War

2003-04-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
Almost makes you wonder if the 51st State might not be Puerto Rico but might be Alberta. JDG Calgary support for war rises: poll Alberta leads in national pro-U.S. shift Mark Reid Calgary Herald http://canada.com/national/story.asp?id=%7B4B9E4240-E7DA-47B9-8102-CDFDFDA45 300%7D Su

Wollsey: US Engaged in WWIV

2003-04-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
Ex-CIA director: U.S. faces 'World War IV' >From Charles Feldman and Stan Wilson CNN Thursday, April 3, 2003 Posted: 5:02 PM EST (2202 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.woolsey.world.war/index.html LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Former CIA Director James Woolsey said Wednesday the

Re: Alpha (was: Why I'm pissed off right now)

2003-04-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
-- Ticia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>I *have* been prepared to kick a dog in the throat > >>once or twice, but it's > >>never come to that. The worst I ever had to deal > >>with that didn't also > >>involve a

Re: Alpha (was: Why I'm pissed off right now)

2003-04-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ticia wrote: > > How did you manage it, oh Queen B...? :) > The dobermans ran out of their yard, across the > street and started > following us down the sidewalk, barking. It got to > where I felt the heat > & pressure of each *breath* of one o

Re: SCOUTED: Scientific explanation why black cats are luckierthanothers

2003-04-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From New Scientist: > <> > > Black cats may be the more fortunate felines > Black cats, a symbol of bad luck in many cultures, > may be actually be more > fortunate than their fairer rela

Re: Some semi-good news

2003-04-04 Thread Julia Thompson
"Miller, Jeffrey" wrote: > At the neighborhood hardware store last night, getting new glass, the > shopkeeper asked why I needed 3 panes of glass, and as I told him the > story, he nodded and said that 2 other homes in my neighborhood had > received similar treatment (funny, the cops never mentio

What Happened to the100th Airborne?

2003-04-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
How Are Army Divisions Numbered? By Phillip Carter Posted Friday, March 28, 2003, at 3:18 PM PT http://slate.msn.com/?id=2080825 Anyone watching Iraq war coverage has seen a stream of numbers go by, identifying particular Army divisions—the 101st Airborne, the 3rd Infantry, etc. What do these nu

Mesopotamia International Airport

2003-04-04 Thread Han Tacoma
While we are in the business of changing names, why not restore it to Sumeria International? or Cradle of Civilization - International? Actually, I like Mesopotamia International Airport. > http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/world/5552842.htm > Capt. John Whyte, 31, of Billerica, Mass., welcome

Re: Some semi-good news

2003-04-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:50 PM 4/4/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: >> One woman had some china in.. well, whatever >> those special cabinets you china in are called.. broken by the shot; > >("Hutch" comes to >mind, but that might be just the top part or just the bottom part. And it >doesn't sound as nice as "china

Re: Rebuilding Iraq Won't Be Free

2003-04-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "J.D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Iraq Debts Add Up to Trouble > Economists say Bush administration officials are > wrong to assume that petroleum revenue will pay for > postwar reconstruction. > > http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-war-iraqdebt4apr04.story > > WASH

Re: Some semi-good news

2003-04-04 Thread Julia Thompson
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 10:50 PM 4/4/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: > >> One woman had some china in.. well, whatever > >> those special cabinets you china in are called.. broken by the shot; > > > >("Hutch" comes to > >mind, but that might be just the top part or just the bottom part.

Re: Some semi-good news

2003-04-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:22 PM 4/4/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: >> My mom has always kept our china in a "hutch." :) > >Is it regional? Couldn't tell you. My mom was born and raised in Buffalo, NY, though. JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [

Re: Some semi-good news

2003-04-04 Thread Steve Sloan II
At 11:22 PM 4/4/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: > > > My mom has always kept our china in a "hutch." :) > > Is it regional? John D. Giorgis wrote: > Couldn't tell you. > My mom was born and raised in Buffalo, NY, though. I've always heard "china cabinet", and my mother was born and raised

Re: British Troops, Alphas, and Thread Crossover

2003-04-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "J.D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that there is a national partnership > between the US and Europe, with the US specializing > in being the best warriors they can be, Europeans > specializing in peackeeping, and the British > bridging > the gap. Here seems to be more

Re: Rat Olympics, corporations walling off common words (that havebeen in use fur hundreds or thousands of years)

2003-04-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/sports/story/744015p-5402117c.html > > USOC gets catty over 'Rat Olympics' > LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) - A small event at a small > Nebraska college has caught > the eye of a large national committee. > Organizers of Nebrask