RE: Sleep Apnea

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Jun 2003 at 21:10, Nick Arnett wrote: > > This is my favorite sleep apnea site: http://www.sleepnet.com/ > > I am now learning more about somnoplasty... Heh. I'm just plain insomniac and not only have doctors attempts to cure it miserably failed, most of the sleep tablets make me intensely

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:06 AM 6/9/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:47:20 -0500 At 03:19 AM 6/9/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote:

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 08:49 PM 6/8/03 +0100, William T Goodall wrote: > > >On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 05:17 pm, Reggie Bautista wrote: > >> The Fool and William Goodall react as if that person was posting from a > > >> religious extremest perspective, instead of

Re: [Janelle]Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "William T Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? > > > > > > On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 02:29 am,

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:06 AM 6/9/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: >> "Yes, it is." > "No, it isn't." > "Yes, it is!" > "No, it isn't!" > "Yes, it is!!" > "No, it isn't!!" > "YES, IT IS!!!" > "NO, IT ISN'T!!!" > "Times up." "What do you mean time is up? I cam in here

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 07:06 am, Jon Gabriel wrote: William, you ARE intolerant. Here's why: intolerance is defined as: "unwilling to grant equal freedom of expression especially in religious matters." (m-w.com) My dictionary defines intolerance as 'not enduring difference of opinion'. S

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread David Hobby
> > > >Religion is extremist by nature. > > No, it's not. > > -- Ronn! :) Even religions which say that their god(s) is the "only true god"? As an outsider, that sounds pretty extreme to me! ---David Identify, for 2 points: "I mean, it's one th

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ray Ludenia
David Hobby wrote: > Identify, for 2 points: > > "I mean, it's one thing saying you've got the best god, but > sayin' it's the ONLY real one is a bit of a cheek, in my > opinion." Hairy Patch-it's "Crappe Jugular"? Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedi

Re: Spam van Baardwijk

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 9 Jun 2003 at 15:06, Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger wrote: > > > Since I can't reply directly to Jeroens recent spamming, > > In fact, you *can* reply directly to me. As I said in a previous > message, the solution is quite simple. Hint: it's in the he

Re: Are you a model citizen?

2003-06-09 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Damon wrote: > > Heh heh...I got 0 years in prison and no fines... > > I especially enjoyed #19 as I live right next to > Allentown and often go to > the Mall there... > > Damon. It's good to know that something aroused your interest. ;-) -- Matt 14.5 yrs, 0£ fine, though I stretched some thi

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/9/2003 5:43:25 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ---David > > Identify, for 2 points: > > "I mean, it's one thing saying you've got the best god, but > sayin' it's the ONLY real one is a bit of a cheek, in my > opinion." Peter O'Toole in The

RE: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from 1987 to1 995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020.

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>-Original Message- >From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:58 PM >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% >from 1987 to >1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020. > > >At 04:27 PM 6/7/03 -040

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>-Original Message- >From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:57 PM >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > > >On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 01:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> In a message dated 6/7/2003

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >-Original Message- > >From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:57 PM > >To: Killer Bs Discussion > >Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > > > > > > >On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 01

RE: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Horn, John
> From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > ...the whole POINT of the Masorti movement is to think about our > >> > lives. > >> > >>Is it working? > >> > >>Erik Reuter > > > > > >I think about having a Maserati in my life. It hasn't worked yet. > > That may not be exactly what t

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>Now is the energy needed to supply all of these small enough >for the system >to be sustainable? > >I doubt it. I agree. The math shows that they could not get enough bodies together to generate the energy required, even if they were quite good at synthesisizing foodstuff (like a HeeChee food F

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Chad Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Now is the energy needed to supply all of these small enough > >for the system > >to be sustainable? > > > >I doubt it. > > I agree. The math shows that they could not get enough bodies together to > generate the energy required, even if they were q

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > > >-Original Message- > >From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Se

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2 points 1) With the energy needed to extract these, is it still workable? Is the energy needed for mining small enough for the system to be sustainable? 2) The human body will generate energy from the above mentioned chemicals. However, living cells are not sus

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > Yea, but that's just becasue the force of gravity at the sun is greater. > An ounce of fl

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Michael Harney
From: "Kevin Tarr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 10:00 PM 6/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >I have been informed today that I have been plonked by one of the > >listmembers. Which listmember is irrelivant. > > > >The listmember informed me that my "intollerance" was reminiscent of Jeroen. > >When I rece

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Richard Baker
Dan said: >> Yea, but that's just becasue the force of gravity at the sun is >> greater. An ounce of flesh on earth has far more mass than the >> average > > ounce of material in the sun. (weight = mass*gravitational force) Is an "ounce" a unit of mass or weight? I never did grasp those old uni

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > Dan said: > > >> Yea, but that's just becasue the force of gravity at the sun is > >> great

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail.com> wrote: > >From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >2 points > > > >1) With the energy needed to extract these, is it still workable? Is the > >energy needed for mining small enough for the system to be sustainable? > > > >2) The human body will generate e

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Richard Baker
Dan said: > No, what I meant to say was that the total energy in an average ounce > of material on the earth is greater than the total energy of an > average ounce of material on the sun, because the mass of the material > on the earth would be so much greater. Ah, okay. Thinking in masses is so

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:25:39 -0500 At 02:06 AM 6/9/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 10:19:21AM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > An ounce of flesh has more energy than an ounce of solar material, I > think, by a magnitude. This is nonsense. > A body needs few things to create energy - Water, Oxygen, Carbon, and > Hydrogen - most of which can be extracted from

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:14:59PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Here's one: did you know that all the urinals in Pennsylvania Station say > "American Standard" on them? :-D 4.4lpf/1.0gpf -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ _

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? > >Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:25:39 -0500 > > >We now return you to your regularly scheduled list for

RE: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from 1987to 1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020.

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:42 AM 6/9/03 -0700, you wrote: and... Found this little "nugget" on the net. ;-) "The sportive lemur (Lepilemur mustelinus), a very small folivore, engages in coprophagy--it eats its own feces, for a "second-stage" digestion. So do rabbits. -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:07 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Bryon Daly wrote: From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2 points 1) With the energy needed to extract these, is it still workable? Is the energy needed for mining small enough for the system to be sustainable? 2) The human body will generate energy from the above mentioned

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:20:47 -0400 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:14:59PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Here's one: did you know that all the u

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:29:24PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Say what? I thought you were an American Standard urinal expert. Didn't you ever read one? I mean, what else do you have to do while you're going? -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ __

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>Chad, > >Are you speaking hypothetica-probably or did you do some calculating? > >If you did I would like to see your work. I did an earlier calculation with 2 assumptions, 1> each human generates 100 watts of heat at rest, and the total Wattage in use in the US today, which is 3.5 GW. It would

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:20 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:14:59PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Here's one: did you know that all the urinals in Pennsylvania Station say > "American Standard" on them? :-D 4.4lpf/1.0gpf Were they imported from Canada? -- Ronn! :) God bless America

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 03:20 PM 6/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? > >Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:25:39 -0500 > > >We now return yo

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 03:36:33PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 04:20 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:14:59PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >> Here's one: did you know that all the urinals in Pennsylvania Station say > >> "American Standard" on them? :-D > >

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:31:59 -0400 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:29:24PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Say what? I thought you were an Ameri

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:37:31 -0400 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 03:36:33PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 04:20 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Erik Reu

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:20:48 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussi

RE: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from 1987 to1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020.

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
Someone wrote: and... Found this little "nugget" on the net. ;-) "The sportive lemur (Lepilemur mustelinus), a very small folivore, engages in coprophagy--it eats its own feces, for a "second-stage" digestion. Ronn! replied: So do rabbits. So do guinnea pigs, but only certain "special nuggets..."

Re: Spam van Baardwijk

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
Andy wrote: No. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=spam spam n. Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail. The key word there is USUALLY You've been on this list how long, and you still expect Je

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:14 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:25:39 -0500 At 02:06 AM 6/9/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: From:

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > At 03:20 PM 6/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >I mean, I don't think I've necessarily seen every toilet in the ladies' > >room at Casa de Garcia to say for *sure* what brand they are (and IIRC, > >it's Crane, but it's been so long since they changed their Sunday hours > >to clo

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:22 PM 6/9/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The Japanese do low-flow toilets a lot better, because they've been doing them for longer and have had more time to experiment with what works and what doesn't. All the ones in our house are made by Toto. (Insert WoO crack here.) Is "WoO" a transl

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Julia Thompson
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 04:22 PM 6/9/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >The Japanese do low-flow toilets a lot better, because they've been > >doing them for longer and have had more time to experiment with what > >works and what doesn't. All the ones in our house are made by Toto. >

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:30 PM 6/9/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: "Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 04:22 PM 6/9/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >The Japanese do low-flow toilets a lot better, because they've been > >doing them for longer and have had more time to experiment with what > >works and what doesn't.

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:33:26 -0500 At 04:22 PM 6/9/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The Japanese do low-flow toilets a lot better,

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > >Chad, > > > >Are you speaking hypothetica-probably or did you do some calculating? > > > >

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>-Original Message- >From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:19 PM >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 10:19:21AM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > >> An ounce of flesh has more energy than a

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yea, so the question is, is the story crap, or have they accounted for all of this and will reveal it in the next movie? Like: I'm hoping for the latter, but I fear the former. A lot of tv/movie sci-fi producers seem to think that the audience is dumb and wo

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 02:56:02PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > I did get this wrong. What I should have correctly said is a cubic > centimeter of flesh contains more energy than a cubic centimeter of > solar gas. How is that relevant? > I believe that the assuption made in the movie is that fles

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: As science fiction, The Matrix and sequel(s) certainly have problems. But as a reading of the Merovingian Heresy and as a Gnostic philosophy parable, The Matrix and Matrix: Reloaded really hang together quite nicely. The philosophical stuff that is spouted in great gouts in the secon

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
William T Goodall wrote: Religion is extremist by nature. Not all religions. And please don't think that all people who call themselves Christians are part of the same religion. Some are extremists, some aren't. Some people can be extremists who are members of churches that aren't usually ext

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Mon

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
Gary wrote: It is not surprising that the plot lines to Thirteenth Floor and Matrix were so similar. It seems that similar movies tend to appear together - for example - Armageddon and Deep Impact. Matrix was released March 31, 1999 and Thirteenth Floor was released mid April 1999. The way I under

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jan wrote, in regards to the Matrix sequel: Speaking of eye candy, anyone notice the distinct lack of hot women? Lots of hot boys I understand, but no really sexy girls. It's all buck and no doe. I've seen the women the bros run around with, so what's the deal? That all depends on how you define "

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:31:49PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > Not all religions. And please don't think that all people who call > themselves Christians are part of the same religion. I could just as well say, please don't call yourself Christian if you don't want me to think you are irrati

Carpe Jugulum, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread David Hobby
Ray Ludenia wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > Identify, for 2 points: > > > > "I mean, it's one thing saying you've got the best god, but > > sayin' it's the ONLY real one is a bit of a cheek, in my > > opinion." > > Hairy Patch-it's "Crappe Jugular"? > > Regards, Ray. "Crappe", you say

Re: Spam van Baardwijk

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spam van Baardwijk Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:10:21 -0500 Andy wrote: No. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=spam spam n. Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: RE: Picking apart the Matrix - no spoilers > And sometimes, multiple authors will have similar ideas more or less > simultaneously as a reaction to somet

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>> I did get this wrong. What I should have correctly said is a cubic >> centimeter of flesh contains more energy than a cubic >centimeter of solar >> gas. Dan's assumtion about mass was correct. A cubic >centimeter of gas >does >> not weigh near what a cubic centimeter of flesh does. > >At 1 at

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:31:49PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > > > Not all religions. And please don't think th

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:24:44PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > I am right on the whole wattage thing(IMHO and I don't want to argue > about it). If you mean how much electrical power is used in the US, you are definitely wrong. And that is not my humble opinion, it is fact. I'm with Dan on the w

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:29:24PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > > Say what? > > I thought you were an American Standard urinal expert. Didn't you ever > read one? I mean, what else do you have to do while you're going? > Among a group of friends y

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:48:31PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > As there have been many irrational, cruel athiests. Heh. I'm not an atheist, as I've said before. But there are much much fewer irrational atheists than irrational Christians. -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.e

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:05:06 -0400 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:31:49PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > Not all religions. And please don

religion: was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
> >>(Even religion, if anyone wishes.) As a non-practicing Ba'hai extremist I don't really care if we discuss religion or not discuss religion. Can if I could only remember if I am a non-practicing (Ba'hai extremist) or a (non-practicing Ba'hai) extremist =

Toilets was: Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Japanese do low-flow toilets a lot better, because they've been > doing them for longer and have had more time to experiment with what > works and what doesn't. All the ones in our house are made by Toto. > (Insert WoO crack here.) Toto makes

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:48:31PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > > As there have been many irrational, cruel athie

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:46:26PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Guilt by association can be a double-edged sword, That's kind of the point (pun intended) > especially when you condemn an entire people for the acts of a group. I am not condemning an entire "people". A religion is not a "people". I

Re: Toilets was: Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:59:29PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: > Toto makes the very best working Toilets, Toto also makes fiber-optic ferrules and receptacles. I was amused when my colleague forwarded me "Toto" as a possible source for a part we needed. He didn't know Toto made toilets. -- "Erik

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:08:03PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > Do you count Marxists as atheists? Never thought about it. But I would negatively judge anyone who counted themselves as Marxists. (dangerous naivete, mostly) -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 9 Jun 2003 at 18:48, Dan Minette wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:31:49PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > > > > > Not all religions. And please don't think that all people who > > > call themselves Christians are part of the same religion. > > > > I could just as well say, please don't ca

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 9 Jun 2003 at 20:04, Erik Reuter wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:46:26PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > Guilt by association can be a double-edged sword, > > That's kind of the point (pun intended) > > > especially when you condemn an entire people for the acts of a > > group. > > I am no

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 01:15:50AM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote: > Judaism is both a people and a religion. A people generally means those living in a certain area or those born of certain people. In as much as Judaism is a religion and in the context I was discussing, it is not a people because t

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 01:04:28AM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote: > for the vast majority of the participants. The Isralie / Palestine > conflict is and has allways been about LAND and water rights, not > religion. Baloney. If that were so, why is Jerusalem such a sticking point? It may be about

Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...

2003-06-09 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There is also the possibility that these growth > > hormones might stimulate already "primed" cells to > > transform from pre-cancerous into full-blown > > malignancy. Which is why I drink organic milk a

Re: Are you a model citizen?

2003-06-09 Thread John Garcia
I got 97 years and a 5000 pound fine. Ah misspent youth. john On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 10:13 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend to do things a bit different :-) htt

Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...

2003-06-09 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > There is also the possibility that these growth > > > hormones might stimulate already "primed" cells to > > > transform from pre-cancerous into ful

Re: Are you a model citizen?

2003-06-09 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
John wrote: > I got 97 years and a 5000 pound fine. Ah misspent youth. Hey, jailbird! 2000 less than me, but you're almost as Evil (tm) as I. Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read the blog. Love the blog. http://aclipscomb.blogspot.com ___ http://w

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread William T Goodall
On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 12:48 am, Dan Minette wrote: Now, if you want to argue that any organized ideology/philosophy is a religion, like Willy does, then you can probably wiggle out of this. But, since nothing has every been accomplished on a significant scale without such a foundation,

RE: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Chad Cooper
>-Original Message- >From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:42 PM >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers > > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:24:44PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > >> I am right on the whole wattage thing(IM

Umm, what's the deal?

2003-06-09 Thread Jim Sharkey
I don't seem to be receiving any messages, Nick, and it *looks* like my settings are in order. Any ideas? Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www

Speaking of religion and evil...

2003-06-09 Thread Julia Thompson
Today's Leonard Pitts column has something to do with it: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/6044921.htm or http://tinyurl.com/dw7u if that one got split. It's a discussion of Eric Rudolph as a "Christian terrorist". I thought it was very interesting. Also tou

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Julia Thompson
I have a question for Erik on this thread, and nothing of his to really quote to give me an opening without quoting a long message (and that might be irritating): What is your opinion of Quakers? They're a sect of Christianity, but they espouse some beliefs that many Christians don't regarding wa

Re: Picking apart the Matrix - spoilers

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:40:47PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > >From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:24:44PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > >> I am right on the whole wattage thing(IMHO and I don't want to argue > >> about it). > > > >If you mean how much e

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:58:00PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: > I have a question for Erik on this thread, and nothing of his to > really quote to give me an opening without quoting a long message (and > that might be irritating): > > What is your opinion of Quakers? They're a sect of Christian

Re: Umm, what's the deal?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 08:48:32PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: > I don't seem to be receiving any messages, Nick, and it *looks* like > my settings are in order. Any ideas? Nick, I think I've been getting all of Jim's messages :-) And juicy ones they are, too! Better divert them back his way, now

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: > Not all religions. And please don't think that all people who call > themselves Christians are part of the same religion. Erik replied: I could just as well say, please don't call yourself Christian if you don't want me to think you are irrational or extremist. Guilt by association. The

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 08:11:55PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > They are simply being completely closed-minded about religion, and > judging every religious person based on a stereotype. You are being close-minded and irrational, and underestimating William and Fool. Their opinion is based on

Re: Carpe Jugulum, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/9/2003 4:19:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 2 points, though. And one point to William Taylor--I had totally > forgotten about _The Ruling Class_! What? You mean it was actually in it? Though I've found 2 copies of Harold & Maude at the used

Re: Sleep Apnea

2003-06-09 Thread Deborah Harrell
I'm posting before checking the rest of the 150+ messages- --- Han Tacoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope Debbi can add something to this. > Diphenhydramine is an antihistamine, they are for > allergies! > > One can get pneumonia due to dehydration (and > aggravate asthma). > This is true

Re: religion: was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/9/2003 4:51:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As a non-practicing Ba'hai extremist What type of weapon does a Ba'hai extremist use? A nine pointed nerf shuriken? I'm still waiting for the comic strip. Ba'hai and Lois. William Taylor -

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Plonkworthy? > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 08:11:55PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: > > > They are simply being completely closed-minde

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: > They are simply being completely closed-minded about religion, and > judging every religious person based on a stereotype. Erik replied: You are being close-minded and irrational, and underestimating William and Fool. Their opinion is based on clear thinking and a lot of facts. What fact

GPF/LPF (was Re: Plonkworthy?)

2003-06-09 Thread Han Tacoma
Erik (Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:37:31 -0400) writes: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 03:36:33PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > At 04:20 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:14:59PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >> Here's one: did you know that all the urinals in Pennsylvania S

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 9 Jun 2003 at 20:29, Erik Reuter wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 01:15:50AM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote: > > Judaism is both a people and a religion. > > A people generally means those living in a certain area or those born > of certain people. In as much as Judaism is a religion and in the

Re: Carpe Jugulum, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/9/2003 4:19:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > 2 points, though. And one point to William Taylor--I had totally > > forgotten about _The Ruling Class_! > > What? You mean it was actually in it? Not that

Re: Toilets was: Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Jan Coffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: Toilets was: Re: Plonkworthy? > > Simple really, the pressure needed to move x amount of material through a > narrow opening is more th

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